my firend and I were talking and he brought up the fact that vince demanded a trade. so I asked him if he thought that the lakers would want him and then we started to list a lot of people who the lakers could trade for him, what do you guys think?
Well, off the top of my head, Vince's contract reads about $12 million a year (increasing each year, obviously)...and I'm thinking he's got 4 years left. Vince would play the three, probably...so if we get Malone back, we'd have a little trouble putting guys where they should be. We could always put Kobe at point, Carter at SG, Odom at SF, and Malone at PF...but I really doubt that'll prove to be effective since we wouldn't have any bench players (we'd be trading our backups for Carter...possibly Butler, George, Walton, Grant...I don't know). Now, if it's for Odom...no way. Carter is good, but not worth a guy who can play 4 positions and can pass like a point guard. Plus, how will Carter feel playing next to Kobe? He'll want the ball more...which spells trouble...just another Kobe/Shaq situation, which I'd love to avoid. Carter? No thanks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AA13:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea carter would majorly screw things up worse than they already are.</div> Wow!!! Do you have a source that says that the Lakers are srewed-up. Thank you but no. I don't think that the Lakers need another big ego (if he is one). We want team harmony not turmoil, we don't want to go back to the "Shaq Era".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AA13:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea carter would majorly screw things up worse than they already are.</div> Lakers have improved, believe it or not. Getting rid of Shaq helped out our organization, and even if it doesn't help us out for the next season, it does in the long run. The Heat will see what I mean very soon. A couple of Eastern Conference Finals shots, or hell...even a ring, won't make up for the trouble Miami will be in once he gets hurt and eats up the cap, or stays with the team and ruins all hopes of signing good free agents. Back on topic... We have Kobe, who just signed a huge contract with us...and Brian Grant, who's contract is ridiculous. Odom's is fairly high at about $11.5 million per year, so we don't need someone who's making $12 million right now (Carter) because in that case, we'd be like the Knicks...having to re-sign all of our players to keep our roster filled just because we are $1 zillion over the cap. EDIT: Then again, if we could get rid of Brian Grant in a deal for Carter, then I wouldn't mind having him actually. It's a risk to try and put Carter and Kobe on the same team, but to get rid of Grant? Yes. If things don't work out with Carter, we can stiff him, GP style. jk
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers have improved, believe it or not. Getting rid of Shaq helped out our organization, and even if it doesn't help us out for the next season, it does in the long run. The Heat will see what I mean very soon. A couple of Eastern Conference Finals shots, or hell...even a ring, won't make up for the trouble Miami will be in once he gets hurt and eats up the cap, or stays with the team and ruins all hopes of signing good free agents. Back on topic... We have Kobe, who just signed a huge contract with us...and Brian Grant, who's contract is ridiculous. Odom's is fairly high at about $11.5 million per year, so we don't need someone who's making $12 million right now (Carter) because in that case, we'd be like the Knicks...having to re-sign all of our players to keep our roster filled just because we are $1 zillion over the cap. EDIT: Then again, if we could get rid of Brian Grant in a deal for Carter, then I wouldn't mind having him actually. It's a risk to try and put Carter and Kobe on the same team, but to get rid of Grant? Yes. If things don't work out with Carter, we can stiff him, GP style. jk</div> True if we could get him for brian gran ti woud do it in a second but not because i like carter i would do it so i can get carter and trade him for a better quality pf and pg.
Yeah yeah i agree with you realdealbneal... if the trade is to rid brian grant, vince will be a very good return experiment to our roster... i think kobe shouldn't ever be played at the one... he wouldn't produce as much as he can... the position with vince should be (assuming Luke-Banks deal goes down too): 1- Atkins --- Vujajic, Banks 2- Bryant --- Rush 3- Carter --- Butler, Jones 4- Odom --- Cook 5- Divac --- I think Vince has an ego, but given the proper coaching, he'll learn how to put it aside I think. Unlike Shaq, he's not the "system" and he knows it so he wouldn't bi*$h around... and he knows he has slowed down a little, all he can do is let Kobe lead the way and be a reliable scoring punch no 2 or even 3 (sorry Carter fans) if Odom fits well in this system.
Vince carter the loser baby is the most overrated star in the league. He'd essentially ruin ne team he went to. He's lost quickness, vert and determination to get better and to get in shape. I see no way of him improving ne team in the condition he's in
Vince Carter for Brian Grant... you guys are either joking or.... There's no way we would even have a chance of getting Carter unless we either give up Butler or Odom, maybe even both. So What's with you guys predicting lineups with all of them in it..? get real.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter for Brian Grant... you guys are either joking or.... There's no way we would even have a chance of getting Carter unless we either give up Butler or Odom, maybe even both. So What's with you guys predicting lineups with all of them in it..? get real.</div> Well, I was the first to bring up Brian Grant, but I also brought him up AND mentioned him being <u>a part</u> of the deal. I never said those two only...I would hope that the Raps aren't that ignorant to trade off Carter for Grant by himself That's why I then mentioned Odom, and that's where I'd draw the line...because I wouldn't trade Odom for Carter.
No, I don't want Carter in Los Angeles, unless he's wearing the Clippers jersey. Carter to the Lakers would be the worst thing that could ever happen to them. They'd have to trade away so much of their young talent just to make up his contract, and I don't think it'd be worth it in the long run. You never know what Carter is going to give you. He could get hurt, miss the entire season, and if that happens, the Lakers just gave away a fourth of a team for nothing. It's not worth the risk. Carter's history of injury problems and his crappy attitude are something I don't really want. Leave him in Toronto or trade him elsewhere, just make sure he's not wearing purple and gold next season.
Getting rid of shaq was the biggest mistake the lakers have ever made... anyway Crter would destroy the lakers totally. His ego is to big plus he owuld clash with kobe and odom.
From a Raptors perspective, I think Rob Babcock would only settle for Odom since he knows he wont get Bryant. Another thing, the Lakers aren't gonna make THAT big of a trade anytime soon (invovling Carter) so there's not even a need for this, it's pretty much extremely hypothetical. Carter & Kobe would lead to a clash of egos with Kobe prevailing. Buss paid Kobe the max so he could lead his own team, not have to share the burden with a 12 mill a year, somewhat injury-prone player of the same position. Nonetheless, if a trade happens (which it won't) and Carter magically lands in La-La land, a Kobe and Carter punch (if he remains healthy) would be extremely deadly. That would somewhat fill up for the void in the middle with Divac. But it won't work out unless the Lakers want to ship off Odom, Butler and some others, which they wont.
I have to agree with those who say Vince is overrated. He definately is. If I had to choose. It would be Odom over Vince. I like versitility.
