Show some VC Appreciation! Allright everyone, I just watched on NBA TV the documentary about the Sixers and their glorious 2001 season followed by game 7 versus the raptors. I gotta say. Vince is the man. It makes me sad seeing all the great things Vince did to have all these people on these message boards just tear him apart. Sure he has some faults and there are quite some problems with him. But seriously, he has had no trouble with the law and he has done so much for basketball. The documentary talked about how Vince was the next Jordan and how he was the superstar Iverson would never be. This was only 3 years ago! Granted a lot has happened in those 3 years, I think Vince has a lot left in him. Take last year. He only missed 9 games and he was one of the top 10 scorers in the league. Lets also take into consideration that his team kinda was....bad. I can honestly say that I watched every Raptor game last season. He had his 43 point incredible game in ATL. His 40 point game in New York, his 42 point game in New Orleans and a lot of other great games. I even went to his game here in Portland where there were so many carter fans in the audience displaying his jersey ( me included). Just watching old games of Vince from 99-midway 2002 will make even the most Anti-Carter fan go "Wow". Give the man some respect people. He has had some bumps in the road and he wants to be traded. I don't blame him. It's time to move on I think. Carter can play with the best of em. Last year, he outplayed Iverson, Pierce, McGrady, Davis and countless other stars. (for those of you who might disagree, I have them on tape) I am just so sick of all these haters out there bashing on vince. I say to all you haters "go on ebay and search for "Vince Carter DVD". Buy a copy of that VC dvd and you too will learn to appreciate Vince Carter: Half Man - Half Amazing....still.
As you can see from that picture.. Vince still jumps out of the gym. There is a misconception that he lost some of his hops. He hasn't. He just rarely displays them. WHERE his head is on that pic...no one else can get that high. YES there were pics that showed ppl's head's over the rim (VC included) but they are all camera/angle tricks. Vince REALLY GOT THAT HIGH in that pic..almost rim level. He could have dunked over weiss with that jump.
Another problem with VC... Is that the refs give him 0 respect. He drives in, gets hacked 90% of the time and no calls. Jermaine Oneal blocked VC? I remember that play...it was at the end of the half and VC got way over the rim about to DUNK RIGHT ON HIS @SS. And then VC gets CEARLY Fouled on the forearm by Jermaine Oneal and guess what? NO MOTHER FUKING CALLL. Jermaine Oneal cannot jump..he could only reach VC's forearm and no foul call after he was hacked. WTF
I know what u mean man... ppl in toronto always been hatin' on Vince, theres not ONE person i ever talked to that like him other than me. He has done so much for Toronto, more than any other athlete will ever do for the raptors I'm sure, jus to have ppl turn their back on him, then now he wants a trade and they hate him even more. Well they already hated him before the trade so I understand why he would want to leave. Especially that Dave Feschuk guy.. I always had mad respect for him, and some of the ppl I do know that hate him, dont even watch him often at all. They jus go with what other ppl say or what they see in the biased newspaper writers. I respect Vince alot.. his only flaw is his bad bad bad work ethic. If he didnt have a bad work ethic, he'd be top5 for sure, but hey, everyone has a flaw.. Kobe with his lust desires.. McGrady with his immaturity and disloyalty to teams, etc. So if they can have flaws, why cant Vince? Many ppl in the US respect Vince, but ppl in Toronto hate him.. see the luv he gets from the team he could've chosen not to sign with? And dont even say he got such high pay from Toronto, he could've easily gotten as high or higher pay from any other team in the bball glorified US, cuz at that time he was one of the BEST. Show him some love
Im with you guys. Carter hit like eight threes in a row at 2001 playoffs against Phily and most people from Canada still dont respect him.
Yeah it's not fair actually to compare VC with other superstars who have been healthy like McGrady and Kobe. Without those injuries, VC would be the most unstoppable swingman in the L... I still remember how in 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 seasons he was downright dominating games while Kobe was still learning the ropes in Phil's first two years on the Lakers and McGrady was still blossoming... nobody could guard VC one-on-one dude just flew too high...
Kobe's Shoulder has been injured alot this past season and still was doing big things with 3 other superstars on his team. Except for the finals damn he tried to hard splitting past two defenders. Anyways that's right! VC is the man and just hope he explodes back into superstar status in Toronto or where ever he ends up. I want more VC highlights this year.
^Woah come down buddy. Haven't seen you post in awhile. I'm just hoping the superstar come back this season. It's gonna be hard because of this fustrating off season for him with management and fans who are annoyed with him. But please I want to see the superstar VC back.
The thing I don't understand is why Vince thinks the Raps are heading in the wrong direction? In the division the Raps are in, they have just as much chance of winning the division as anyone else. I just saw a preview ranking where the Raps are ranked above NJ and Philly. I know they can take Boston, so that only leaves NY. All of these teams are just average. Not to mention that the ranking was based on VC being unhappy and not giving full effort. They even said the combination of Rose, Bosh, Marshall, and Alston will equate to wins. So if VC puts his heart into it, he can lead the Raps to the division title and back to the playoffs. If the Raps are in good position after a couple of months, the will attract some players through trades. Perhaps trading, Rose or Marshall for some better players. T.O. will become appealing to players because they will be playoff bound. Here is the ranking. http://www.insidehoops.com/power-rankings.shtml
Juniour Dunker... You are right about Vince's hops. JYD was on the fan590 radio last week and he said Vince could touch the top of the backboard! That's Vinsanity!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MaxaMillion711:</div><div class="quote_post">Allright everyone, I just watched on NBA TV the documentary about the Sixers and their glorious 2001 season followed by game 7 versus the raptors. I gotta say. Vince is the man. It makes me sad seeing all the great things Vince did to have all these people on these message boards just tear him apart. Sure he has some faults and there are quite some problems with him. But seriously, he has had no trouble with the law and he has done so much for basketball. The documentary talked about how Vince was the next Jordan and how he was the superstar Iverson would never be. This was only 3 years ago! Granted a lot has happened in those 3 years, I think Vince has a lot left in him. Take last year. He only missed 9 games and he was one of the top 10 scorers in the league. Lets also take into consideration that his team kinda was....bad. I can honestly say that I watched every Raptor game last season. He had his 43 point incredible game in ATL. His 40 point game in New York, his 42 point game in New Orleans and a lot of other great games. I even went to his game here in Portland where there were so many carter fans in the audience displaying his jersey ( me included). Just watching old games of Vince from 99-midway 2002 will make even the most Anti-Carter fan go "Wow". Give the man some respect people. He has had some bumps in the road and he wants to be traded. I don't blame him. It's time to move on I think. Carter can play with the best of em. Last year, he outplayed Iverson, Pierce, McGrady, Davis and countless other stars. (for those of you who might disagree, I have them on tape) I am just so sick of all these haters out there bashing on vince. I say to all you haters "go on ebay and search for "Vince Carter DVD". Buy a copy of that VC dvd and you too will learn to appreciate Vince Carter: Half Man - Half Amazing....still. </div> Man truthfully I am still one of the biggest fans of Vince's, but I am also a realist. no doubt he was the best dunker of all time. Now he is probably the 5th best dunker in the league. And I'll tell u all about Vince's 2003-04 season. He had 5 good games; the season opener, against New York (2), Atlanta, and New Orleans. Notice how all those teams are in the East, and how none of them have a decent shooting guard. Not since three years has Vince won a personal battle during the regular season against McGrady, Kobe, or Iverson. The guy says its about winning but he hasn't done much of that lately. He said he doesn't need to score, but it seems they only win when he scores at least 25. Vince can still be a top 10 player. But he needs to play with anger. And revenge. If he can get 27 5,5 any team will take him. No doubt. If he leads the scoring the NBA will be on his d*ck like they used to be.
I agree with arhie, he came into the league with a vengence. A couple years ago, he seemed like a guy content to just put up the easy three rather than take it to the hoop. As time went on, he has become less relevant in the NBA big picture. This is not to say that he doesn't have the potential to turn it around and dominate, but he has two things working against him. 1) His team isn't good enough. 2) He doesn't seem to have the desire to dominate. I don't see a lot of Raptor games, but in the few that I do see, he doesn't dominate the game like fifteen or twenty other stars in the league can.
I don't know if JYD was being completely accurate about that. I think he was just using that in an example describing Vince's work ethic. I don't think JYD was completely true on that part, but hey, you never know. I've heard that Moiso can touch the top of the backboard, is that true?
Mark my words, if Vince does not get injured, this willl be his resurrecting season. He may be traded sometime...but regardless of whatever team he's on, he will definitely come out to play this year. BUT...if he hasn't conditioned himself properly again during the off-season, i take my words back.
Everyone here's the 411 on carter, he's still an amazing leaper and he knows how to play the game but there is one thing that is actually lost because of his injuries, his quickness. Carter is rarely double teamed because he has troubles getting by his man. Did you see him in the all-star game, he tried to get past kobe several times but got the ball stolen from him. I remember back in the 2001 all-star game, he jabbed right and totally lost kobe and finished with an awesome 360. He's still amazing but his ability to penetrate and create for himself in the paint is lost. Not necessarily his fault though.
i am still a big fan of vince, but i see its a stab in the back when he wanted a trade....just bc things rn't going well he abandons us.....we didn't abandon him when things weren't going well for him.... ...and what made us all carter fans was when he dominated bc he played with passion heart and desire, u just don't see alot of that nemore....imo carter can avg 30 7 5 if he really played all out every game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting balluva:</div><div class="quote_post">Everyone here's the 411 on carter, he's still an amazing leaper and he knows how to play the game but there is one thing that is actually lost because of his injuries, his quickness. Carter is rarely double teamed because he has troubles getting by his man. Did you see him in the all-star game, he tried to get past kobe several times but got the ball stolen from him. I remember back in the 2001 all-star game, he jabbed right and totally lost kobe and finished with an awesome 360. He's still amazing but his ability to penetrate and create for himself in the paint is lost. Not necessarily his fault though.</div> Well done son, he has lot a lot of quickness, and vert , but easily top 5 jumpers in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Man truthfully I am still one of the biggest fans of Vince's, but I am also a realist. </div> That's wut alotta people r thinking wen we talk about VC. You got the Carter lovers and the haters but not enuff people judge him based the facts. I gotta show appreciation for him, cuz if we didn't have him i don't know if we wud still be here. But, my loyalty will always be to the team above the players and thats y i cant support his trade demand.
