LA Lakers-vs-Sacramento Kings 2004-2005 Season Series!

Well i'm looking forward to the 2004-2005 NBA season this year,and looking forward to the rivarly of the west coast,as the Lakers and the Kings will go at each other throats again.

The Regular season games between the teams are as follows:

NOV 26 04-@LA TV:ESPN
DEC 16 04-@SAC TV:????
APR 10 05-@SAC TV:ABC
APR 15 05 @LA TV:ESPN

This year i feel will be no different as both teams will play really hard against each other.everytime the Kings and Lakers play against each other,both teams always bring there best game to the court.

I'm very excited this year about this series,since the Lakers have made some rather drastic changes this year,and the Kings are pegged as the favorites by most people to win the Pacific Conference and this is a make it or break it year for the Kings or else.

I Wanted to know how Laker fans feel about this years series coming up.in my opinion this is the series that will make waves as always with our intense rivarly going on.

I want to wish you guys the best this year. :thumbsup:

So what are your thoughts on this series Laker Fans?

 

Well, how about this...

<font size="3">Matchups</font>

Center
vs
Offensively, the advantage goes to Miller. He proved himself to be a good center last year and can really put the ball in the hoop. Defensively, Vlade has it. To win this matchup, Vlade will have to take charges and use his passing game, whereas Miller will have to make sure to watch out for cutting players, and also pull twice as many boards as Vlade.
Advantage - Kings, because Vlade's minutes are limited.

Power Forward
vs
This matchup will be interesting. Grant is moving back to his original position and will put up decent numbers against Webber. However, as long as Webber doesn't jack up too many jumpers, he should win this matchup. Grant's defense will be tough, though.
Advantage - Kings

Small Forward
vs
If Odom wanders off to the perimeter and defends Peja, this will cause problems for the Kings. Peja is a hot shooter, but he will have trouble defending Odom and also, creating his own shot against Lamar.
Advantage - Lakers

Shooting Guard
vs
On both sides of the court, Kobe will more than likely have his way with Christie. In addition to Doug's current injury, the Kings may be forced to double-team Bryant in these four regular season games, as well as the playoffs.
Advantage - Lakers, by far

Point Guard
vs
Unless Bibby misses the game, the Kings have the PG situation won. Chucky Atkins is barely starting-material, so Bibby should (and will) have his way with Atkins.
Advantage - Kings, by far

Bench

VS

The Lakers definitely have the advantage as far as bench players go, with alot of good passers and shooters. The Kings have a couple of fresh faces, but a weak backup center and a few guys that barely saw playing time last year.
Advantage - Lakers

The games will, without a doubt, be interesting. The Kings play great during the regular season...but with the troubles and rumors going around about Peja wanting to leave, will this affect them? Also, not getting anything in return for Vlade was a negative. The Lakers will need to figure out what to do about Bibby, who will have the games of his career against Atkins...possibly move Kobe down to the point and start Butler at SG?

I don't know about everyone else...but I look forward to playing our rivals

 

realdebneal:Sweet little preview with the graphics :mrgreen:

Yeah the Kings have great advantage when it comes to the Center,Power Forwards,& Point Guard postions.

There's a lot going on with both teams,with the Lakers dealing with a new coach,trading Shaq,and the Kobe drama over with,and the fact that the Lakers are under scrutiny with these new changes to be sucessful again,and the Kings feeling the pressures of Peja not being happy,and C-Webb's attitude,and the fact that Adelmans contract is up after the year is done with,the Kings must have a sucessful season this year or else.

But as a Kings fan every other game is ok,but when it comes to the Lakers,it's not a game...It's a climax :mrgreen:

These Games are the best played series between these 2 franchises,and believe me it's war when it comes to the Kings and Lakers.but overall,there has never been a dull moment between the 2 teams ever,and i expect the same this year.

 

Thread closed. Excellent insight realdealbneal, but in a King/Laker topic, all hell breaks loose and we don't need that.

 

I re-opened this thread. Unlike a hundred other threads regarding the Kings/Lakers this one is actually intelligent and not a running fued. Good points made thus far,I think closing it was a tad premature.

 

Thanks Dre..

Anyways...Every Kings-vs-Lakers Game i've seen,there has been incredible playing by both teams.and i for one love seeing good games,regardless if it's Baseball,Football,and Basketball.And seeing these 2 great teams go at it is pretty damn cool.

In my opinon over the past few years this Rivarly has become one of the best in sports.not as good as the Yankees-Red Sox,Giants-Dodgers in Baseball,or the Raiders-Broncos in the NFL,but good enough to draw attention to.

 

The Rivalry is dead you guys.....

Lakers-Kings wasnt about team names, it was about the players.

No more Fox vs. Christie. No more Shaq calling them the Queens and Webber saying that "if Shaq had said that on the street......" No more of Vlade as an emotional leader, and no more of the Webber-Vlade passing game. No more of Horry's clutch shooting, etc.

This rivalry isn't nearly as hyped or exciting as it was in the past.

 

I think that the closest matchup will be between Peja and Odom.
If the Lakers get Malone they win IMO.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rivalry is dead you guys.....

Lakers-Kings wasnt about team names, it was about the players.

No more Fox vs. Christie. No more Shaq calling them the Queens and Webber saying that "if Shaq had said that on the street......" No more of Vlade as an emotional leader, and no more of the Webber-Vlade passing game. No more of Horry's clutch shooting, etc.

This rivalry isn't nearly as hyped or exciting as it was in the past.</div>

agree it wasn't even a rivalry team for me because kings chokes everytime they face each other in the playoff

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe_8:</div><div class="quote_post">agree it wasn't even a rivalry team for me because kings chokes everytime they face each other in the playoff </div>

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. EXACTLY!!!

What's the best rivalry then in the NBA this season?

* Heat/Lakers
* Spurs/TWolves
* Cavs/Nuggets
* Pistons/Pacers

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rivalry is dead you guys.....

Lakers-Kings wasnt about team names, it was about the players.

This rivalry isn't nearly as hyped or exciting as it was in the past.</div>

Granted this Rivarly isn't the same as it was before,but it still will showcase great basketball from the Lakers and Kings.it will be different,but i think it will still be fun to watch.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dallasdude:</div><div class="quote_post">BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. EXACTLY!!!

What's the best rivalry then in the NBA this season?

* Heat/Lakers
* Spurs/TWolves
* Cavs/Nuggets
* Pistons/Pacers</div>
I think for as long as Shaq can remain in the league, the biggest and most heated rivalry will be the Heat and the Lakers...but usually, rivalries are within the same conference. Right now, excluding the Heat and the Lakers, a new rivalry that will develop in the West will more than likely be the Kings and the Suns, with the possibility of them having to fight for their division, and with all of the talent from the Kings and the new addition of Nash on the Suns, it may be an interesting series, whether it's in the regular season or the playoffs.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">A new rivalry that will develop in the West will more than likely be the Kings and the Suns</div>

I Never really thought of this scenario with the Kings and the Suns.but with Nash playing for Phoenix,things will get intrestring.but still,I Don't know if it will have the same effect of the Rivarly between the Lakers and the Kings.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, how about this...

<font size="3">Matchups</font>

Center
Offensively, the advantage goes to Miller. He proved himself to be a good center last year and can really put the ball in the hoop. Defensively, Vlade has it. To win this matchup, Vlade will have to take charges and use his passing game, whereas Miller will have to make sure to watch out for cutting players, and also pull twice as many boards as Vlade.
Advantage - Kings, because Vlade's minutes are limited.</div> I have to agree with you here, especially with the bad back that Divac has suddenly developed. And dont forget, Divac doesnt do particularly well in fast paced games (the main reason he didnt play in the Dallas series last year) and he is going to have to keep his flopping in check. Offensivly, though, If Divac can keep himself out of foul trouble and keep up with the pace of the game, he will be able to score on Miller and Ostertag (but I just cant see him keeping up with the pace... we agree on the winner of the matchup, just for different reasons)

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Power Forward

This matchup will be interesting. Grant is moving back to his original position and will put up decent numbers against Webber. However, as long as Webber doesn't jack up too many jumpers, he should win this matchup. Grant's defense will be tough, though.
Advantage - Kings</div> Webber only has two things to worry about going up against Grant
1) Knees holding up
2) Get his shot going early
If he does those, the Lakers will be forced to double him which is going to free up someone. And while Bryant is a great defender, he cant help out everywhere without producing a defense that is going to look more like swiss cheese

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Small Forward

If Odom wanders off to the perimeter and defends Peja, this will cause problems for the Kings. Peja is a hot shooter, but he will have trouble defending Odom and also, creating his own shot against Lamar.
Advantage - Lakers</div> Im not sold on Odom. Never have been really. but you are very correct in your points about Stojakovic. Unless he suddenly has an epiphony in regards to creating his own shot, he is going to have to rely on Webber, Miller and Christie to set the picks to free him up for the shot. this is where Odom is going to have a problem... Milller and Webber are great at setting picks while Odom, while better than most, is not the best at working around or through the pick. I have to call this one a draw


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shooting Guard

On both sides of the court, Kobe will more than likely have his way with Christie. In addition to Doug's current injury, the Kings may be forced to double-team Bryant in these four regular season games, as well as the playoffs.
Advantage - Lakers, by far</div> Straight up man to man matchup, Christie can not shut Bryant down... but get Bryant pissed at his teammates and he shuts himself down. I garuntee that the Bryant jockers out there will not understand the following plan to deal with Bryant. Force EVERYTHING through him. Make him bring the ball up & start the offense, take away everything else but Bryant after that and then force him into bad shot selections. yes, he will make some incredible shots, but generally speaking when he tries to do to much and take everything on his own shoulders, they loose. and with this new lineup the Lakers have, that shouldnt be too hard to make happen. The kink in this plan is that you MUST force him into bad shot selections & make everyone see that he is taking all the shots.. one of two things will happen: either the coaching staff will jump on him & he will just not take anymore shots, or he will tire out by the 4th and be jackin up a lot of bad shots. You have to make his take himself out of his game. Its obvious the advantage goes to the Lakers at this position, but its not impossible to make that work for you rather than against you....

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Point Guard

Unless Bibby misses the game, the Kings have the PG situation won. Chucky Atkins is barely starting-material, so Bibby should (and will) have his way with Atkins.
Advantage - Kings, by far</div> or has an anurisim at the half, or goes blind all the sudden or aliens abduct him...
Even if Bibby doesnt play the Kings have this advantage with Jackson off the bench.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bench

VS

The Lakers definitely have the advantage as far as bench players go, with alot of good passers and shooters. The Kings have a couple of fresh faces, but a weak backup center and a few guys that barely saw playing time last year.
Advantage - Lakers</div> I dont think the lakers have quite the advantage you are thinking they have. They do have the advantage here, but not qute that large.

a couple key bench players:

In my opinion, Walton is probably good enough to start at the three on a lot of teams in the league. What we dont know is how much Bluthenthal has improved while playing in europe... right now because I know what Walton can do, I have to give him the advantage...

Jackson is a starter on any other team in the league. And can make some shots that would leave even Bryant thinking "jesus how'd he do that??"



<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The games will, without a doubt, be interesting. The Kings play great during the regular season...but with the troubles and rumors going around about Peja wanting to leave, will this affect them? Also, not getting anything in return for Vlade was a negative. The Lakers will need to figure out what to do about Bibby, who will have the games of his career against Atkins...possibly move Kobe down to the point and start Butler at SG?

I don't know about everyone else...but I look forward to playing our rivals </div>
amen brotha...

to those that feel this is no longer a rivalry... of course its still a rivalry. The Lakers have just revamped their entire starting lineup save one position. The Kings have make some minor changes and still have the talent to make it to the WCF... anyone that says this is no longer a challenge because some of the faces and players have changed just doesnt get it... It will be a dead rivalry when one team or the other is consistantly missing the playoffs...

 

Another classic, I'm really looking towards the Divac and Miller match up. Two versitile center. But I'm really worried about the PG spot, Bibby will really burn Atkins, and not just Bibby but all the other talented PGs, EX: Cassell, Billips, Nash, Parker.

 

I think the Lakers bench has improve tremendously from last year. My only regret from the offseason was the Lakers letting Fisher get away so easily

 

I Don't care what anyone says about the Kings-Lakers Rivarly not being one.it still is in my opinon.The Lakers have made some bold changes,and the Kings have a lot to prove this season if they want the NBA Crown.

No more Shaq,for the Lakers.doesn't matter if he's with the Lakers or not.that is irrevelvant with this rivarly.

I'm looking fwd to seeing the best teams in the Pacfic conference go at it..again.

As Mills Lane would say:Bring it On!!

 

Just to interject something.....

Mills Lane said 'Let's Get It On!'

 

Lakers blow em out! nice work Butler and Mihm!

 

Also Brian Cook had a great game, I think something like 18 points and 8 rebounds.