Kobe at 230 lbs?

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  1. Jesseca328

    Jesseca328 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Here's a better pic. I don;t know if is the camera or the way the pic was taken but KB's left arm looks big!!!!!
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  2. jbbReal Deal

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jesseca328:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's a better pic. I don;t know if is the camera or the way the pic was taken but KB's left arm looks big!!!!!
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  3. Mez

    Mez JBB JustBBall Member

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    ^no, that pic is from 2 offseasons ago, the 2002 offseason. That's when he "bulked up" to 220.. I remember that picture. Notice there's no tatoo?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">This is another image of Kobe (Martin posted it in a thread)...don't mind the number, it's just to wear the jersey for a picture...

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    Now he definately looks like the topic of this thread in that pic. Not cut up like David Robinson's guns of course but that's the most definition his ever had in his arms for his career.
     
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    Koobe gaining weight has it's drawbacks,, he has less mobility and athleticism ..way to go ..there goes his assets for the team..he used to be able to cut through defenders with ease..yea kobe's arm does look bigger when he squeezes them with his hand but what good are big arms when you're a shooting guard..at this weight he could be playing for small forward but im afraid small forwards would give him a headlock and he would still be outmuscled.
     
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    Paul Pierce seems to be doing find at that same weight and height. I don't think Paul would be any better then he is if he lost 10lbs or so. He may have lost a little quickness, but then again like I said before Lebron is really fast even at 240lbs. So I think he may have a chance at actually possessing the same speed he once had. If not like I said earlier just a very slight decrease in speed, but nothing drastic.
     
  7. jbbReal Deal

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting drm2dnk:</div><div class="quote_post">Koobe gaining weight has it's drawbacks,, he has less mobility and athleticism ..way to go ..there goes his assets for the team..he used to be able to cut through defenders with ease..yea kobe's arm does look bigger when he squeezes them with his hand but what good are big arms when you're a shooting guard..at this weight he could be playing for small forward but im afraid small forwards would give him a headlock and he would still be outmuscled.</div>
    Any player can typically benefit from gaining more muscle (not fat)...and Kobe didn't put on 50 lbs of it. His weight right now is nearly the perfect weight for a 6'6" guard.

    Pierce, McGrady, Ben Gordon and even Michael Jordan would benefit from it, also. Kobe is no exception.
     
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    saw him on tv and i agree that he looks bigger now. i can't wait 'till dec. when he slams into shaq's face...lol!
     
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    yeah he's gotten stronger definitely, posting up reigns... he will be unstoppable and in case Shaq's mouth is out of control on Christmas :P POW!
     
  10. notmuchgame

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting drm2dnk:</div><div class="quote_post">Koobe gaining weight has it's drawbacks,, he has less mobility and athleticism ..way to go ..there goes his assets for the team..he used to be able to cut through defenders with ease..yea kobe's arm does look bigger when he squeezes them with his hand but what good are big arms when you're a shooting guard..at this weight he could be playing for small forward but im afraid small forwards would give him a headlock and he would still be outmuscled.</div>

    It made Kobe quicker and more athletic in 02-03...I don't see why it would all of a sudden do the opposite effect this time around.
     
  11. Vyper

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">It made Kobe quicker and more athletic in 02-03...I don't see why it would all of a sudden do the opposite effect this time around.</div>


    well any quick gain of muscle can potentially be a detrement. The season is long and that added muscle can have the effect of wearing on your joints by putting extra strain on them. My worry would be Kobe did this all at once instead of gradually and that is,alot of the time,a bad thing to do because of the stress it puts on your body.

    We've seen it alot in the football and basketball alike. A guy bulks up in the offseason. During the season he's playing and goes to make a sharp cut or turn and his knee or ankle just pops without being touched by anyone else. A majority of this is caused by added strain from extra weight.

    When you cut and turn,your weight shifts to that particular side. That weight causes the strain. The strain goes up as your weight goes up and puts alot of extra pressure on the tendons holding joints together. As resilient as the human body is,there is only so much pressure it was 'designed' to take. Sometimes a body can go way over what the body can endure. It's then that the tendons stretch and finally detach or break all together.

    It's what happened to me. I blew out on knee my first year of college ball. The knee had been a problem for awhile and it finally gave out. Well I had it fixed,and worked out like a demon during the time I had off and the offseason. I put on almost 12 pounds of muscle. And low in behold I blew out my other knee before the season even started.

    Why did this happen? My doctor and physical therapist both stated that it was caused by the added strain caused by increased muscle weight.

    Not saying this is Kobe's case,because I'm sure he has surrounded himself with the best trainers money can buy. I'm just saying you need to be aware of the potential drawbacks of such no matter who you are.
     
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    Well, that's all true...but like you said, he more than likely has great trainers, so I'm hoping he'll be fine [​IMG]

    And Dre...sorry about the knees. Same thing happened to my ankle my senior year of high school, and the docs told me exactly what they said to you, but I haven't been able to play competitive ball since.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, that's all true...but like you said, he more than likely has great trainers, so I'm hoping he'll be fine [​IMG]

    And Dre...sorry about the knees. Same thing happened to my ankle my senior year of high school, and the docs told me exactly what they said to you, but I haven't been able to play competitive ball since.</div>

    Ah,it's life playa..just roll with the punches and do the best we can. [​IMG]

    Soon after that I quit the team and decided to focus on my schoolastic endeavours. Just decided that it would be better because I would hope to still be walking when I turned 40. I've played competitive basketball since...Rec league,pick-up at the park and a couple of work leagues..but I haven't put in the same work ethic and dedicatoin to it that I did when I was 18.

    Something I need to point out,arthroscopic surgery wasn't as good in '92-'93 as it is now. Alot of people had alot of trouble even after their surgery back then where as now alot of times its just as good as it was before the surgery.
     
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    P.A.P. JBB Fresh Start

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    Damn, Kobe looks buff now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, that's all true...but like you said, he more than likely has great trainers, so I'm hoping he'll be fine [​IMG]</div>That's what I'm saying. Cmon guys, these athletes are around trained professionals that knows what's best for them. It's not like they're going into this blind sided.

    Anyways here are some Media Day pics:
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    Even though this is a good thing for Kobe to do,my question is why cant he make up his mind and what he wants to do.I remeber his best season,when he was averaging 30ppg,he had said that he bulked up for the upcoming season before the season started.

    Then last year around training camp time he decided he wanted to slim down some,and now again he is adding bulk!This time he should keep it that way.Although he may lose some quickness and moblilty,I bealive being stronger and more durable will be more important to him this time in his career.
     
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    i dont think Kobe would do anything that would ruin his game. he is surrounded by specialists and specialists wouldnt tell you to do something unless it improves ur game.
     
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    i dont think he will get slower. correct me if im wrong but doesnt he do plyometrics for the upper body? Thats like when you throw the barbell up in the air and catch it when your benching. Ive never tried it cause im kinda scared to do it. I thought i read somewhere that he does upper and lower body plyometrics which should make him more explosive all around.
     
  19. jbbReal Deal

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KB23:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont think he will get slower. correct me if im wrong but doesnt he do plyometrics for the upper body? Thats like when you throw the barbell up in the air and catch it when your benching. Ive never tried it cause im kinda scared to do it. I thought i read somewhere that he does upper and lower body plyometrics which should make him more explosive all around.</div>
    You're correct. :thumbsup:

    His routine is the 6-6-6 routine...6 hours a day, 6-phase, 6 days a week. It's an 8 year program, and Kobe is only on his second year [​IMG]

    I might have mentioned this somewhere before...but if you want to know more about it, I have the routine. It's crazy.

    About plyometrics...anything that allows your muscles to stretch before they are contracted...so like, claps in between your push-ups are considered plyometrics.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Even though this is a good thing for Kobe to do,my question is why cant he make up his mind and what he wants to do.I remeber his best season,when he was averaging 30ppg,he had said that he bulked up for the upcoming season before the season started.

    Then last year around training camp time he decided he wanted to slim down some,and now again he is adding bulk!This time he should keep it that way.Although he may lose some quickness and moblilty,I bealive being stronger and more durable will be more important to him this time in his career.</div>

    Last season, he didn't try to slim down. He was thin due to the stress of the rape charges and because he was recovering from injuries that didn't allow him to weight train. Once his shoulder was okay, Kobe began his weight training regime again, and he got a bit bigger as the season progressed, altho no where near where he was the season before.
     

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