<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post"> Dwayne Wade at 22 yrs old: 16.2 ppg, 4.00 rpg, 4.5 apg Kobe Bryant at 22 yrs old: 22.5 ppg, 6.30 rpg, 4.9 apg Maybe this doesnt matter because Kobe was already in the league for awhile but still Wade could have done that. Who did Wade have on his team? He sure didnt have a 7'1 Monster on his team like u said right? Well thats exactly why Wade scored so much...because he didnt have the most dominant player in the NBA scoring over 25 ppg and voted as one of the NBAs top 50 players. Lets see how Wade does this year with him and when this season is over he wont even score over 20 ppg due to the fact that Shaq will ballhog the whole time and leave Wade out of the picture. Thats exactly what happened to Kobe sometimes. He never really got a chance to prove he could do it by himself. Like I said we'll see next year what they both accomplish and also see how "Baby Kobe" does with Shaq on his team. Ive got 2 words for Dwayne Wade.....GOOD LUCK. <u>EDIT: Sorry didnt notice what heatfan and realdeal said </u></div>I don't buy into the PPG really (unless you back it up with FG%/3PT%). Ex: Allan Iverson had 26ppg this year...but his shooting was horrible: 38%-FG 28%-3PT. He's really dropped his accuracy over the years but manages to jack up enough shots that he scores 26ppg. This is also why his team didn't go far this year. The reason Shaq gets so many PPG because he makes mosts of his shots: 58%-FG last year, not because he's jacking up shots, it's because he's the teams best shot at scoring. If Shaq would've had KG's attempts last year he would've averaged 35+ppg. So really Dwyane Wade didn't have many PPG but he didn't jack up nearly as much shots as Kobe did at 22: Wade had about 300-FG attemps less and 100-3PT attempts less than Kobe at 22. If he would've matched Kobe on attempts though, his FG% and 3PT% say he would've had the same PPG as Kobe. Kobe did rebound better though at 22. So why does Shaq get so many points? Because he's landing the shots he gets, not taking more shots. Shaq always has more PPG for a good reason. What does this mean to the Lakers: Kobe is gonna be taking more shots and getting higher PPG. If he doesn't start shooting @ 50%-FG 38%-3PT, he's gonna be costing his team points and losses (Note: Kobe's never gone passed 46%-FG and 38%-3PT) Conclusion: If you don't back up the PPG with the FG% and 3PT% then you are costing your team points and eventually losses. realdeal and I agree that Kobe and Shaq will have their goals set for them this year. Let's see how they do without each other. But for Kobe, let's see if he doesn't follow the same path of Penny Hardaway.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">You cant be serious. Dwayne Wade wont be better than Kobe Bryant EVER. Some people compare Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan for crying out loud. Dwyane Wade will not be compared to MJ either because hes not that great. Wow he had a great rookie season thats great oh wow hes gonna be the best ever...I dont think so. Yes Wade is a great player but his career wont turn out like Kobes. He wont average over 25 ppg nor will he win 3 rings because hes really not capable of doing that. I dont care what any of you Heat fans say Dwyane Wade will never be close to Kobe Bryant. As a matter of fact....he wont even be better than Lebron. Right now...the only 2nd year player that has A Chance at being better than Kobe is Lebron James. Everybody else like Wade will end up like Corey Maggette. Close to being an Allstar but not close enough, stat wise, or popular enough to make it. You wait...Dwyane Wade will be a good player...but he will never be as good as Kobe Bryant.</div> Nobody said he was going to be the best ever you fool. And what are you talking about, NEVER going to be better? He's already off to a better start statistic wise than KB. He's already a pretty good defender, and he's versatile. His jump shot isn't good right now, but it will get better over time though, because he's only what, 22? He will put up good numbers over his career, and he WILL be an all-star.
Heatfan...just one thing...there's no reason to compare Shaq's FG% to anyone else's in the league. I know alot of players that shoot better than 45%, but it doesn't make them better than Kobe. Shaq's high percentage shooting is because he's a center. If he was taking jumpers, he would be the absolute worst player in the league, correct? Ben Wallace tried that already and failed, so he stopped shooting from so far away...Shaq would do no better. I really doubt the Lakers would've won if Shaq had the ball in his hands every possession (like people believe) because he'd be standing at the line every time. Racking up one point per possession doesn't account for nothing unless you're down by a couple and are a great defensive team. Plus, not even Jordan would've been able to get the ball to Shaq...yes...the matter was to actually be able to get the ball to him, through the Pistons' defense, not that Kobe was selfish. We all know that basketball is a team sport, but when another team shuts that element to the game down (team), you're no better than your worst player when you're looking 5 other guys in the eye. Jordan posted 37 PPG once, but he didn't win a ring that year. The fact is, the Pistons figured out the Lakers and capitalized on it. They saw that the triangle ran from Payton, to Kobe, to Shaq...with screens from Malone and George...and they found the passing lane and closed it. Two defenders on Kobe, one on Shaq and one backing away from the PF (who wasn't Malone because of an injury) to intercept passes to Shaq via Kobe. It's called smart defense against the triangle...one of the best ways to stop a quick, offensive guard and a strong, offensive center on the same team. If Kobe were to lob a pass to Shaq in traffic...traffic that contains Ben and Sheed...the pass would've been stolen. Plus, Prince and Rip did play great defense...Prince had Kobe at the perimeter, and Rip was waiting on Kobe's weak side...so there was no way a pass could've made it successfully that many times to Shaq. No pointing fingers at Shaq or Kobe...the blame goes to everyone else, who failed to get open and help out. That is exactly why I'm really interested in seeing how both teams will do this year...and also why I'm confident that, with the Lakers' new, revamped lineup, they will do a better job helping on the double team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Nobody said he was going to be the best ever you fool. And what are you talking about, NEVER going to be better? He's already off to a better start statistic wise than KB. He's already a pretty good defender, and he's versatile. His jump shot isn't good right now, but it will get better over time though, because he's only what, 22? He will put up good numbers over his career, and he WILL be an all-star.</div> Hey stop being a toddler and word your post better. Who are you to come in here and call somebody a fool. Why dont you go back to the Bobcats thread and hope for a 12-70 record for the Bobcats. So you automatically think EVERYBODY that has a better rookie year than Kobe will be better than him....think again smart one. Example: Marcus Camby scored 14.8 ppg, 6.30 rpg, and 1.5 apg in his Rookie year in 1996. Does that automatically make him better than Kobe because Kobe only scored 7.6 ppg, 1.90 rpg, and 1.3 apg? I DONT THINK SO! Think before you speak "ya fool" Like I said before....when Kobe was 22 he did WAY better than Wade big time so dont go off sayin "its only because hes 22 blah blah blah" because that aint going to cut it. He MIGHT be an Allstar who knows? But that doesnt make him a great player either nor does it make him better player than Kobe. He might put up better numbers over his career DEPENDING ON if Shaq destroys that chance because Wade hasnt played with Shaq yet and I guess all of you haters will see that when Wade plays with Shaq...his stats are going to fall unlike Kobe Bryants did when he played with the big fella. Like I said I cant wait for this because Itll be a fun thing to see watching Wade stare at Shaq every play with the ball.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey stop being a toddler and word your post better. Who are you to come in here and call somebody a fool. Why dont you go back to the Bobcats thread and hope for a 12-72 record for the Bobcats. So you automatically think EVERYBODY that has a better rookie year than Kobe will be better than him....think again smart one. Example: Marcus Camby scored 14.8 ppg, 6.30 rpg, and 1.5 apg in his Rookie year in 1996. Does that automatically make him better than Kobe because Kobe only scored 7.6 ppg, 1.90 rpg, and 1.3 apg? I DONT THINK SO! Think before you speak "ya fool" Like I said before....when Kobe was 22 he did WAY better than Wade big time so dont go off sayin "its only because hes 22 blah blah blah" because that aint going to cut it. He MIGHT be an Allstar who knows? But that doesnt make him a great player either nor does it make him better player than Kobe. He might put up better numbers over his career DEPENDING ON if Shaq destroys that chance because Wade hasnt played with Shaq yet and I guess all of you haters will see that when Wade plays with Shaq...his stats are going to fall unlike Kobe Bryants did when he played with the big fella. Like I said I cant wait for this because Itll be a fun thing to see watching Wade stare at Shaq every play with the ball. </div> First what do the Bobcats have to do with this? Second, how the hell did Marcus Camby get into this? I'm comparing Wade and Kobe, not Camby. Maybe you should take your own advice and think before you speak. I'm not comparing Wade and Kobe by age, I'm comparing them by years in the league. And it's obvious Wade had a much better rookie season than Kobe. Also, how do you know his statistics will fall? His PPG will probably go down, but his APG will go up depending if he's still PG. EDIT: BTW, why don't you stay in school and work on your math.
In all due respect to everyone, the point is, you can't sit there and say that Wade is going to be better than Kobe. It's way too early for that...especially if you're basing your opinion off of his rookie season. Even guys who seem to be great players from their rookie year end up in the doghouse, and lose it all just like that. Then, guys like Kobe (13th pick), Ben Wallace (undrafted), Michael Redd (2nd round), etc. will surprise everyone and become All-Star players. Wade had one season, and I was impressed...but Caron Butler had similar stats his rookie year (similar to Wade), but he got hurt...and one injury made him look pretty bad last year. Do you think guys looked at Butler after his first year and say, "Man, do you think he's going to be better than Kobe?" Probably not.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">First what do the Bobcats have to do with this? Second, how the hell did Marcus Camby get into this? I'm comparing Wade and Kobe, not Camby. Maybe you should take your own advice and think before you speak. I'm not comparing Wade and Kobe by age, I'm comparing them by years in the league. And it's obvious Wade had a much better rookie season than Kobe. Also, how do you know his statistics will fall? His PPG will probably go down, but his APG will go up depending if he's still PG.</div> Man Marcus Camby came into this because you said this "Wade has already started out better than KB stats wise"....So I put "Just because he started out stat wise doesnt mean hes better than Kobe (Camby and Wade) because if u notice...I put Camby in his rookie year and Kobe in his rookie year (both were rookies in the same year) and Camby did better than him...That doesnt automatically mean that Camby is better than Kobe. So that also doesnt mean that just because Wade started out better than Kobe...doesnt mean that he'll be better. Yes I meant his PPG will fall due to having Shaq on his team. And see Kobes stats didnt fall when he had Shaq now did they? Not really...so that means Wade is no comparison and may never be compared to Kobe Bryant. Yea Wades APG will more than likely go up...duh . Thats obvious because he will pass to Shaq alot and Shaq will just use his body and dunk it in like usual....but I just didnt like the fact that everyone tried to compare Wade to Kobe thats all. EDIT: Work on my math huh? Plz explain because right now your the one who doesnt know what your talkin about. Oh where I put 12-72....that was a typo...If u would have noticed...I edited it before you posted....THINK BEFORE U SPEAK
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Heatfan...just one thing...there's no reason to compare Shaq's FG% to anyone else's in the league. I know alot of players that shoot better than 45%, but it doesn't make them better than Kobe. Shaq's high percentage shooting is because he's a center. If he was taking jumpers, he would be the absolute worst player in the league, correct? Ben Wallace tried that already and failed, so he stopped shooting from so far away...Shaq would do no better.</div>Shaq doesn't dunk all the time. He used a lot of hook shots in the Finals, but either way, why would you not give the ball to a guy who has the best chance of scoring, regardless whether he does a dunk or a granny hop . And Yes it does make them better than Kobe in the sense of a better team player. They only take shots that they feel they can land, Kobe just takes shots without thinking if theres someone who has a better chance of landing them for that possesion. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">I really doubt the Lakers would've won if Shaq had the ball in his hands every possession (like people believe) because he'd be standing at the line every time. Racking up one point per possession doesn't account for nothing unless you're down by a couple and are a great defensive team. Plus, not even Jordan would've been able to get the ball to Shaq...yes...the matter was to actually be able to get the ball to him, through the Pistons' defense, not that Kobe was selfish. We all know that basketball is a team sport, but when another team shuts that element to the game down (team), you're no better than your worst player when you're looking 5 other guys in the eye. Jordan posted 37 PPG once, but he didn't win a ring that year.</div>No not every possesion but he needs to be the player who touches it the most, whether it be by one possesion a game or 10, he is the primary option. If he made an attempt on every possesion his FG% would probably go to 45% (which is still amazing). Either way, his high FG% means he needs to try to score more than anyone on the team, even if it's by one possesion. Well in the Finals case I've said that if Kobe and Shaq would've switched attempts Shaq would've had an extra 15ppg and that could've been the difference right there. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact is, the Pistons figured out the Lakers and capitalized on it. They saw that the triangle ran from Payton, to Kobe, to Shaq...with screens from Malone and George...and they found the passing lane and closed it. Two defenders on Kobe, one on Shaq and one backing away from the PF (who wasn't Malone because of an injury) to intercept passes to Shaq via Kobe. It's called smart defense against the triangle...one of the best ways to stop a quick, offensive guard and a strong, offensive center on the same team. If Kobe were to lob a pass to Shaq in traffic...traffic that contains Ben and Sheed...the pass would've been stolen. Plus, Prince and Rip did play great defense...Prince had Kobe at the perimeter, and Rip was waiting on Kobe's weak side...so there was no way a pass could've made it successfully that many times to Shaq. No pointing fingers at Shaq or Kobe...the blame goes to everyone else, who failed to get open and help out. That is exactly why I'm really interested in seeing how both teams will do this year...and also why I'm confident that, with the Lakers' new, revamped lineup, they will do a better job helping on the double team.</div>Well as a coach then Phil Jackson failed and he should've found a way to counter this (I remember Phil Jackson say if he could go back he would've coached a completely different way). Either way as a coach it's your job to give your team the best chance at winning. Shaq is the best option of scoring/winning and you couldn't find a way to get him the ball?! He deserves to be fired for that alone.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">Man Marcus Camby came into this because you said this "Wade has already started out better than KB stats wise"....So I put "Just because he started out stat wise doesnt mean hes better than Kobe (Camby and Wade) because if u notice...I put Camby in his rookie year and Kobe in his rookie year (both were rookies in the same year) and Camby did better than him...That doesnt automatically mean that Camby is better than Kobe. So that also doesnt mean that just because Wade started out better than Kobe...doesnt mean that he'll be better. Yes I meant his PPG will fall due to having Shaq on his team. And see Kobes stats didnt fall when he had Shaq now did they? Not really...so that means Wade is no comparison and may never be compared to Kobe Bryant. Yea Wades APG will more than likely go up...duh . Thats obvious because he will pass to Shaq alot and Shaq will just use his body and dunk it in like usual....but I just didnt like the fact that everyone tried to compare Wade to Kobe thats all. EDIT: Work on my math huh? Plz explain because right now your the one who doesnt know what your talkin about. Oh where I put 12-72....that was a typo...If u would have noticed...I edited it before you posted....THINK BEFORE U SPEAK </div> Lol, you edited it after I posted.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, you edited it after I posted.</div> LOL no actually you posted at 8:28 and Look down at the bottom of my post and it says I edited it at 8:26...I win! Post #24 edited at 8:26 Post #25 at 8:28
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq doesn't dunk all the time. He used a lot of hook shots in the Finals, but either way, why would you not give the ball to a guy who has the best chance of scoring, regardless whether he does a dunk or a granny hop . And Yes it does make them better than Kobe in the sense of a better team player. They only take shots that they feel they can land, Kobe just takes shots without thinking if theres someone who has a better chance of landing them for that possesion.</div> If Kobe is that bad, he'd have less than 5 assists per game. And remember this...Shaq, when he receives the ball, takes a few dribbles and backs in sometimes, which completely eliminates the assist once he creates his own shot. And you don't see Shaq bringing the ball down the court...so someone has to be passing it to him for him to put in 27.5 PPG two years ago (last year, everyone's PPG went down because the roster contained four stars). <div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">No not every possesion but he needs to be the player who touches it the most, whether it be by one possesion a game or 10, he is the primary option. If he made an attempt on every possesion his FG% would probably go to 45% (which is still amazing). Either way, his high FG% means he needs to try to score more than anyone on the team, even if it's by one possesion. Well in the Finals case I've said that if Kobe and Shaq would've switched attempts Shaq would've had an extra 15ppg and that could've been the difference right there.</div> I've placed this on Jordan once...because Michael Jordan missed over 9,000 shots in his career and missed 26 game winners...yet he got better by failing, missing shots and learning from his mistakes, and now he is arguably the best ever. Plus, you can't pass to someone who's not able to run out to the free throw line to get the pass, like Yao Ming and Tim Duncan can. You rarely see Shaq outside of the paint, and there's a reason for that. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">Well as a coach then Phil Jackson failed and he should've found a way to counter this (I remember Phil Jackson say if he could go back he would've coached a completely different way). Either way as a coach it's your job to give your team the best chance at winning. Shaq is the best option of scoring/winning and you couldn't find a way to get him the ball?! He deserves to be fired for that alone.</div> Well, Phil realized that Gary Payton was playing horribly (4 PPG and letting Chauncey score at will) and Payton was not an option, to score or pass. Malone was out. Kobe's choices were either Shaq or Devean George, but Kobe's pass couldn't go to Shaq because of what I said earlier, and his pass couldn't go to George because...do you ever see Devean George leave the three point line? He's like Stojakovic, but with worse shooting...he never leaves the perimeter because he can't do anything else but attempt wide-open threes. Last year, the Heat were really good at playing off the ball...this includes Odom, Grant and Butler, not just Wade. So, the way I see it, there will be alot of movement now that Shaq is gone and George is on the IR...and with a great passing center, I see the Lakers going far, and Kobe having a great year also.
Because I was still replying to your post and you edited it while I was replying. EDIT: That was for TheAnswerisAI3
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Because I was still replying to your post and you edited it while I was replying. EDIT: That was for TheAnswerisAI3</div> LOL well you were replying to the post while I was editing correct...but your reply did not say work on my math because when I read it at 8:28...It didnt say that....but then about 2 minutes later...you put EDIT: Work on your math blah blah blah.... So that means you edited it even though I already had it edited but you just didnt notice.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">You cant be serious. Dwayne Wade wont be better than Kobe Bryant EVER. Some people compare Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan for crying out loud. Dwyane Wade will not be compared to MJ either because hes not that great. Wow he had a great rookie season thats great oh wow hes gonna be the best ever...I dont think so. Yes Wade is a great player but his career wont turn out like Kobes. He wont average over 25 ppg nor will he win 3 rings because hes really not capable of doing that. I dont care what any of you Heat fans say Dwyane Wade will never be close to Kobe Bryant. As a matter of fact....he wont even be better than Lebron. Right now...the only 2nd year player that has A Chance at being better than Kobe is Lebron James. Everybody else like Wade will end up like Corey Maggette. Close to being an Allstar but not close enough, stat wise, or popular enough to make it. You wait...Dwyane Wade will be a good player...but he will never be as good as Kobe Bryant.</div> You cannot be serious... I am honestly laughing at you this instant. Won't average over 25 ppg?!!! He could do it this season, maybe not since Shaqs here, but if Shaq wasn't with the Heat, Wade would easily get 25 ppg... do you even know who Wade is? I don't think you do... Kobe is COMPARED to Jordan, thus being the big word. He isn't MJ and isn't gonna be, or gonna come close to becoming MJ. Wade also, is Jordan-esque. Although it's all behind the scenes stuff, since he's not hyped. Regional finals on the line at Marquette. Wade steps up BIG. One of the best performances EVER by a player in NCAA history. 29 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, 4 blocks (somehwre near there) triple double.... Marquette wins... Roy Williams exclaimed after that he was making sure it was No.3 out there and not No. 23. Last game vs Pacers last year. Game 6. The Heat kept it close all the way... because of Wade. He had so many Jordan-esque moments, he almost carried the team on his back in the playoffs and definetly in that game. Had many minutes of scoring constantly the last game. It was crazy if you watched the game... truly Jordan-esque. Honestly... he'll easily make the all-star team... please... he's a diff position than C-Magg if you hadn't noticed... and will be better than him. I don't think you watch Wade, or know him at all... you heard from here first he's gonna be the next big thing... Please don't rip the franchise player in the Miami Heat forum again...
Even if Wade doesn't go 20+ ppg, a true team has players that all average 10+ppg, and those teams have a better chance at winning than any team.
Answer is AI... Wade won't be sitting there staring at Shaq with the ball... he'll be creating for Shaq. He'll be cutting, spotting up... plus he's willing to give up the ball like a real player should to a better player... unlike Kobe or Iverson. Honestly... you guys. Plus, we shouldn't base Wade just statisically... he carried his team to the playoffs (with Odom) and carried them through them pretty much single handedly... and in round 2 with the best defender in the league on his ass.... still got the job done. His mentality is amazing... he's more mature than his age is, unlike Kobe. He's more clutch at this age than Kobe was at 22... Wade is a proven player... he's amazing... honestly stop ripping him, cause he's gonna be better than Iverson in 05-06, easy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">You cannot be serious... I am honestly laughing at you this instant. Won't average over 25 ppg?!!! He could do it this season, maybe not since Shaqs here, but if Shaq wasn't with the Heat, Wade would easily get 25 ppg... do you even know who Wade is? I don't think you do... Kobe is COMPARED to Jordan, thus being the big word. He isn't MJ and isn't gonna be, or gonna come close to becoming MJ. Wade also, is Jordan-esque. Although it's all behind the scenes stuff, since he's not hyped. Regional finals on the line at Marquette. Wade steps up BIG. One of the best performances EVER by a player in NCAA history. 29 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, 4 blocks (somehwre near there) triple double.... Marquette wins... Roy Williams exclaimed after that he was making sure it was No.3 out there and not No. 23. Last game vs Pacers last year. Game 6. The Heat kept it close all the way... because of Wade. He had so many Jordan-esque moments, he almost carried the team on his back in the playoffs and definetly in that game. Had many minutes of scoring constantly the last game. It was crazy if you watched the game... truly Jordan-esque. Honestly... he'll easily make the all-star team... please... he's a diff position than C-Magg if you hadn't noticed... and will be better than him. I don't think you watch Wade, or know him at all... you heard from here first he's gonna be the next big thing... Please don't rip the franchise player in the Miami Heat forum again...</div> Well duh Wade may be able to average 25 ppg without Shaq MAYBE...If he did I wouldnt be impressed because all he would have on that sorry team would be an old Eddie Jones and 2 other losers. Stop overrating Wade because hes not Jordan-esque like you say. Not even close. They dont really even compare Iverson or Tmac or Pierce...players like that to Jordan and your actually tryin to compare Wade over all them players...your very wrong. Does anybody care about Marquette? No...This is the NBA not College...hes not a schoolboy anymore...Hes in the big leagues against the best so dont go off trying to think hes good just because he had a good COLLEGE SEASON. Who cares?! Like I said NBA. Your also forgetting that there was a Lamar Odom in all the Heat games. He actually did better than Wade did last season...he had a big part in the Heat making the playoffs also. Your giving this 2nd year player way too much credit. Lebron destroys him very badly so your saying that Lebron is practically Jordan since Wade is almost close to Jordan....how retarded. LOL Franchise player.....If thats the Miami Heat Franchise player...The Miami Heat wont go far this year because he aint that great...I have to admit...hes good...but hes not even close to Kobe or Jordan or Tmac or Iverson or Pierce...I could go on. Oh and we'll see if lil "Baby Kobe" makes the Allstar game next year ahead of such players as Steve Francis, Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury....awww too bad for Wade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">You cannot be serious... I am honestly laughing at you this instant. Won't average over 25 ppg?!!! He could do it this season, maybe not since Shaqs here, but if Shaq wasn't with the Heat, Wade would easily get 25 ppg... do you even know who Wade is? I don't think you do...</div> Maybe if Shaq's not there? Obviously...but why? Doesn't Shaq pass? I believe Wade will end up reaching near 22 PPG, but that's about it. By the way, he would easily get 25 PPG? It's not easy...ask Garnett... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe is COMPARED to Jordan, thus being the big word. He isn't MJ and isn't gonna be, or gonna come close to becoming MJ. Wade also, is Jordan-esque. Although it's all behind the scenes stuff, since he's not hyped. Regional finals on the line at Marquette. Wade steps up BIG. One of the best performances EVER by a player in NCAA history. 29 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, 4 blocks (somehwre near there) triple double.... Marquette wins... Roy Williams exclaimed after that he was making sure it was No.3 out there and not No. 23. Last game vs Pacers last year. Game 6. The Heat kept it close all the way... because of Wade. He had so many Jordan-esque moments, he almost carried the team on his back in the playoffs and definetly in that game. Had many minutes of scoring constantly the last game. It was crazy if you watched the game... truly Jordan-esque.</div> Wow. Did Marquette win the championship? No. By the way, Emeka Okafor was showing out also, and kept UConn in the game all the way until the last basket. His defense and offense looked like Shaq back in 2000...so does that make him the next Shaq? No...not until he does it for 5+ years in the NBA. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly... he'll easily make the all-star team... please... he's a diff position than C-Magg if you hadn't noticed... and will be better than him. I don't think you watch Wade, or know him at all...</div> I believe Wade will be an All-Star...just not immediately. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Please don't rip the franchise player in the Miami Heat forum again...</div> With that said, please don't rip the franchise player in the Los Angeles Lakers forum again...
Alright... he's better than Iverson next year I know it... he's got more work ethic than him and is more determined. His defense is also better than Iverson's. Plus he would make the all-star team next year, if it wasn't for people voting... those players you mentioned to make the all-star team aren't very good (francis,marubry etc) but the fans love 'em so yeah, they'll be in the all-star game. Marbury is a cancer to whatever team he goes to. Never made it out of the 1st round. Wade already has something over him, and is only in his 2nd season. Francis is a ball hog, SG in a PG body. Wade is also a natural SG, but can play PG alot better than Francis can... all Francis does is jack up 3s and get points off of fast break dunks. Saying Lebron is WAY better than Wade is just stupid and ignorant... Lebron is more hyped than him... Wade played better than him in the olympics, is a better defender and probably will be a better player than him in the future. Did you not see me post what he did in the NBA also? odom yes he did better in the regular season, but not when it counted... Wade stepped it up big... 21 ppg with artest guarding him?! Odom tends to do worse when a quality PF is defending him like Martin etc... Wade steps it up when someone good is defending him. You really underrate Wade Answer is AI...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post"><u>Alright... he's better than Iverson next year I know it... he's got more work ethic than him and is more determined. His defense is also better than Iverson's.</u> Plus he would make the all-star team next year, if it wasn't for people voting... those players you mentioned to make the all-star team aren't very good (francis,marubry etc) but the fans love 'em so yeah, they'll be in the all-star game.</div> Your not serious....Only a Heat fan would say that....maybe his defense is better than Iversons but there is no chance he'll be better than Iverson....he wont get an MVP either....You like Dwyane Wade way to much man and I dont think you understand that...He will never be better than Iverson, Pierce, Tmac, Kobe, Lebron, anybody like that...so stop trying to say that...Ill bet any of you Heat fans that Iverson will destroy Wade in every thing (PPG,RPG,APG) and all the rest (Tmac,PP,LJ) will also next year...thats a promise because this little Wade thing is getting WAY outta hand. Stop overrating him because whether any of the players above mentioned are 40 or 28 or whatever age..they would still destroy Wade. EDIT: Mr. Wade I was going to leave you alone on this situation until you said Dwayne Wade is better than Allen Iverson...cmon man now thats just going way to far over the limit of how good Wade is. I gave him credit...He is good...but dont even try to say hes better than players such as Kobe and Iverson.
