Q-Rich will begin season as 6th man...

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  1. Courtking

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Though they?ve already bagged a couple of wins, the "real" Suns make their preseason debut tonight.
    That?s because the starting lineup that figures to be in place for the Nov. 3 season opener vs. Atlanta is expected to be ready for tonight?s exhibition game in San Antonio.

    Most notably, Steve Nash ? out with a sore groin for the first two games (both wins) ? is expected to make his first preseason appearance tonight.

    He?ll be joined in the backcourt by Joe Johnson. Up front will be forwards Amare Stoudemire and Shawn Marion and center Jake Voskuhl. Quentin Richardson, who is averaging 21.5 points (tied with Stoudemire for the team lead) figures to be the sixth man.

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    Good choice here, I would think that Q would be a better 6th man. But I got one thing to say, Quentin will be starting this season at one point.
     
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    I think it will start this way, but they will realize they are better off with him as a satarter and A-Statt as a Center. I think at the end of the season, the lineup will look like this:
    C- Amare Stoudemire
    PF- Shawn Marion should try his hand at PF
    SF- Q-Rich
    SG- Joe Johnson
    PG- Steve Nash
    And that lineup will be sick.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting S.Livingston14:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it will start this way, but they will realize they are better off with him as a satarter and A-Statt as a Center. I think at the end of the season, the lineup will look like this:
    C- Amare Stoudemire
    PF- Shawn Marion should try his hand at PF
    SF- Q-Rich
    SG- Joe Johnson
    PG- Steve Nash
    And that lineup will be sick.</div>


    It would be like that...but theres one thing stopping the Suns from making that lineup happen....Amare. He doesnt want to play C for some stupid reason and I think hes stubborn for not because if he would just cooperate and play C....the lineup would be crazy. He averages 20 ppg and about 10 rpg...that sounds like a C to me. BTW....Steve Nash already played last night didnt he? I thought they played Spurs last night and he averaged 11 assists and Suns won. I think that already went down. :P
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting S.Livingston14:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it will start this way, but they will realize they are better off with him as a satarter and A-Statt as a Center. I think at the end of the season, the lineup will look like this:
    C- Amare Stoudemire
    PF- Shawn Marion should try his hand at PF
    SF- Q-Rich
    SG- Joe Johnson
    PG- Steve Nash
    And that lineup will be sick.</div>
    That lineup wouldnt work,it just wouldnt cut it in the West.You cant have a 6'7 PF and a 6'10 C.Thats why Amare doesnt want to play C,its because he know he would often be undersized being in the East.

    Q-Rich coming off the bench would be nice,I bealive Q could put up 6th man type numbers while coming off the bench.Its just fair,JJ put up almost better stats then Q did, and he has been their starter since last season,it wouldnt be right for Q to come in and take his spot when JJ is already proven.
     
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    Marion isn't 6'9 lol, he's 6'7.

    Also he's already tried his hand at PF, he played it last year and also a few seasons ago, so it will be nothing new to him, but he's definately not a PF.

    JJ off the bench: 10 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists.

    QRich off the bench: 13 points, 4-5 rebounds, 1-2 assists, that's how I see it, Q is just a better energy player, he can come in run the break, score some points, hit some shots and just get in the flow. JJ doesn't do that.
     
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    I agree that Marion will have trouble at PF especially in the Western Conference. While it's true athleticism and speed can offset some of the strength problems, he'll be fighting off guys that have much more bulk than him. He's a good rebounder and a fair shotblocker, but he'll be banged up always blocking off a bigger guy.

    I also think Amare has a valid gripe about playing C. He's not a true C defensively. The lineup would work in spurts, but it's better to have another body grinding down in there to take the pressure off Marion and Amare, and make matchups where Amare and Marion can play C/PF when the other team is also playing a smaller C and a smaller PF.
     
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    When they play small they will be pretty hard to stop on offense. The only problem is that they will have a hard time stopping the other team from scoring.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting S.Livingston14:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it will start this way, but they will realize they are better off with him as a satarter and A-Statt as a Center. I think at the end of the season, the lineup will look like this:
    C- Amare Stoudemire
    PF- Shawn Marion should try his hand at PF
    SF- Q-Rich
    SG- Joe Johnson
    PG- Steve Nash
    And that lineup will be sick.</div>
    How hard is it to get it into people like you? The Suns will never cope with that starting lineup, which makes them real small and poor defensively. Marion is not Charles Barkley, so he will not fit in as a lighweight 6-7 power forward. Stoudamire depends more on athleticsm, which really doesn't help much when you're up against a guy like Shaq or even Brad Miller on defense.
     
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    Quentin will put up WAY better stats than Joe Johnson and only play half the minutes Johnson does. Quentin is way better I dont see why he will be a 6th man.
     
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    I'm impressed with how many rebounds Q-Rich grabs. I've only been able to listen to the games on ktar, so I'm not sure how he's doing it. Pure athleticism? Just being in the right spot? In any case, I'm glad to see it. Dominating on rebounds is key.
     
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    He's pretty big, so he can box out well, and he's got pretty good jumping ability, rebounding is more about willingness than ahtletic ability a lot of times though.
     
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    Q will be good on the bench, I just think they are going to trade JJ by the all-star break to get a real center if they are in the playoff hunt. If they aren't I think they will keep JJ to the end of the season.
     
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    I think that if the Suns trade anyone, it will be Shawn Marion.
     
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    Q-Rich started at C yesterday, at 6-5, its kind of weird
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting LeBron:</div><div class="quote_post">Quentin will put up WAY better stats than Joe Johnson and only play half the minutes Johnson does. Quentin is way better I dont see why he will be a 6th man.</div>
    How so? Joe Johnson has a more well round game than Richardson, and IMO, is a no-brainer to start over Q.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">Q-Rich started at C yesterday, at 6-5, its kind of weird</div>

    The last time I check C = Center right... [​IMG] If anyone should be playing center it's Amare...
     
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    Im glad I wasn't the only one who was confused by that one.

    and Amare doesnt want to play PF, and I wouldn't blamehim, Q is good playing the 6th.

    Shawn Marion playing the four is utterly ridiculous.
     
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    Do you guys really think Q played center? He might have been listed as the starting center when the game began, but I bet the guy guarding the other guy's center was Amare, and Q was on the perimeter on offense as usual, chucking up 20 bricks to one make.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">Q-Rich started at C yesterday, at 6-5, its kind of weird</div>
    No, NBA.com just screwed up, they normally go:

    G
    G
    F
    F
    C
    ...but for a while, they were having it as:

    F
    F
    C
    G
    G and G-G-C-F-F

    So they had the players setup for the G-G-C-F-F, but put in the G-G-F-F-C in the stats page, obviously Q didn't play center, it wasn't a Boris Diaw event.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting LeBron:</div><div class="quote_post">Quentin will put up WAY better stats than Joe Johnson and only play half the minutes Johnson does. Quentin is way better I dont see why he will be a 6th man.</div>

    Q
    2003-2004 65 64 36.0 6.5-16.4 .398 1.8-5.2 .352 2.3-3.1 .740 1.03 0.3 2.2 2.0 2.2 4.1 6.4 2.1 17.

    Joe
    2003-2004 82 77 40.6 6.8-15.7 .430 1.0-3.3 .305 2.1-2.8 .750 1.13 0.3 2.4 2.2 1.0 3.7 4.7 4.4 16.7

    Looks prety even to me. Not sure why you think Q is better.
     

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