JR Smith

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    JR Smith is a 6'6", 220lbs swingman out of highschool he's got a 44" vertical leap and has the best shooting stroke out of every highschool in this years draft. JR was select by NOH this year with their no.1 pick. Thats just some background information for y'all so you know something about him.

    I think that JR is going to be a great player in the NBA and will be going places like ALL-STAR weekend in the near future a few times being a rookie-sophomore and for the Dunk-Contest and possibly the All-Star game a few years down the road. JR averaged 11.1ppg 2.3rpg 1.3apg 1spg 21mpg and shot 41% FG and 40%3PT.

    Your thoughts on JR?
     
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    Hes gonna be like a Michael Finley but better. All he has to do is work on his dribble and shoot better of the dribble and hell be a vince carter but i dont think hell win any dunk contest hes more of an in-game dunker but i could be wrong. I think hell turn out to be one of my favorite players.
    Joe Johnson, J.R Smith, Trevor Ariza, Michael Sweetney and Sebastian Telfair in no order
     
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    Well I've read like 3 articles about JR and the player that they ended up comparing him to in 2 of them is Ray Allen but a better dunker and in the other one they compared him to no one directly but I think they were saying his game's a lot like Vince's.
     
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    His vertical is 44 inches? I thought it was 37.5'

    Anyways, he'll get a chance to play this year, and he could get enough minutes to score in double digits. His mid-range game needs work, he needs to improve his handles and passing ability, and he needs to imrpove his defense.
     
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    Yeah I don't think his vertical is 44 inches, I thought it was 39. I think he should have gone through at least a year with Roy. When you look at him is it just me or does he look 6'4? And his shooting strokie is very nice, but it can be inconsistent. But it looks like he might be turning that around. He was possibly the worst passing swingman in the draft. I think he'll be one of those J-Rich type players, that get all the hgihlights, and don't put up huge numbers.
     
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    He is a pretty bad passer, and I agree with you he might've been the worst one but his shooting stroke isnt too inconsistent, he had like 5-6 good games with double digits shooting above 50 and then the last 1-2 games he shot liike 2-7 and 1-4 so that brong his preseason averages down, but I think he's going to make the All-Rookie Team this year because he's going to get minutes Mashburn is injured and Wesley is still being bothered by his injuries so its him who's most likely going to log minutes at SG and SF.
     
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    Here it is from the combine:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"># The reports of J.R. Smith's 44-inch vertical were greatly exaggerated. Even
    Luke Jackson recorded a higher vertical in the Chicago testing. A 35.5-inch
    vertical isn't bad, but it's not off the charts, either.</div>

    Josh Childress and Luke Jakcson have higher verticals than him, so ya JR Smith's jumping ability isn't as good as it was publicized
     
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    Do you all think he looks 6'4, or is that just me?
     
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    His official measurement was 6'5 and 3/4 or a half, but I don't know, maybe.
     
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    Im astonished, really his vertical is only 35.5"????? Do you got an article or something proving this because I saw it on real training camp too and he was getting as high as B-Diddy if not higher and they said his vertical was 44" too if im not mistaken. But yea, im just going on what I have read and seen on TV.
     
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    Yea he get's as high as Baron, but he's also a few inches taller. It was from the Draft Combine when his vertical was measured, it was released by ESPN Insider during that time, so yea it's only 35.5" as opposed to 44".

    The only guys with 43.5" were 5'9 Nate Robinson, and Tim Bowers.
     
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    I don't know about his vertical, but i saw some of his dunks and they are sick. He's not Vince, but not far from. Maybe i could compare his dunking ability to Desmond Mason's.
     
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    JR is a player with lots of "upside", u know, atheletic, with a nice shooting stroke, but he relies a lot on his often-streaky outside shot in high school. he defiantely has to improve on his mid range, and defence, although i can see he tries to put effort on D during training camp.
    one thing he has to learn is to dribble, do a one-two step and pull up for the j. this is a underatted skill in the nba and if he can learn how to do it, he could be a viable option on offense. now, all he is contributing is treys and the occasional fast break, thats all.

    i agree with the micheal finley comparision, JR is more of a power guard, as opposed to being a finesse guard like ray allen, since his handles, and off ball movement arent that polished yet.
     
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    I heard this guy is a high canidate for the Dunk Contest. Anybody have a clip of J.R. throwing it down?
     
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    They should get rid of Baron Davis and build around JR. If they get good value for Baron, then they'll have a solid nucleus, to go with this years draft pick. Chris Paul? Chris Paul and JR Smith would be a sick combo, with Magloire inside and whoever they get for B.Diddy. I don't think Magloire would want to stay, but it's a good plan, because they're going nowhere with the way things are now.
     
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    I don't think it's time to build around JR Smith just yet...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think it's time to build around JR Smith just yet...</div>

    I know that, he's too young right now, but with a disgruntled Baron Davis, you have to move in a different direction. You aren't going to very much in return for Baron Davis, cuz their isn't a need for a free shooting injury prone PG. You have to change something cuz this team isn't getting better...and that change is getting ride of B Diddy. With him gone, you need a face for the franchise, and I believe that can be JR Smith. He needs time, but eventually it'll be JR and their 2005 Pick along with their players they get for B.Diddy who they build around.
     
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    The Hornets should try to nurture Smith into a secondary scorer-type player. In the West, the key is big men, and Magloire is one of the best already. JR Smith, meanwhile, is a slasher, the type which is very common within the league. That being said, Smith could also be a 20/5/5 type player in the future as the Robin to Magloire's Batman.
     
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    Magloire a franchise player? Ah, I don't see that happening. Pretty much now at age 26, what you see is what your gonna get for the future. He may up his points to around the 15 point neighbourhood, but he won't become a franchise player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Magloire a franchise player? Ah, I don't see that happening. Pretty much now at age 26, what you see is what your gonna get for the future. He may up his points to around the 15 point neighbourhood, but he won't become a franchise player.</div>
    Magloire has the body and the tenacity right now to be a major force in a few years. Right now, he's not getting enough touches because of the presence of Davis and Wesley, but his production soars when the offensive focus is on him. Give him 17 shots a game, and he'll be a 20/11/3 guy.
     

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