When I look at the two teams i see the wolves who are a great team with great players at point, forward and power. A team where either of those three can drop 40 on a good night. I like the new look Knicks but there is a problem. I see a team with no true starting line up because the only consistent player in that starting lineup i see Starbury. tim thomas is the most inconsistent of the group but where the real problem hides is in the acquisition of crawford. The worst thing that a team could do is give him the okay to shoot. crawfords continuous 20-25 foot brick shots is not good for a team with suspect rebounding ability. combine that with cassells history of great games against allstar pointguards. The wolves are a team with energy, experience, and a mission(championship). I dont think the knicks have a chance. ONE(love)
Knicks werent's able to contain Garnett all game long. He scored in I believe 28 points, 20 boards and 7 assists. Minnesota wins this won.
It was a pretty good game. We could have won it if we weren't held scorelless for 6:30 minutes. Looks like a pretty good season. If Allan Houston played I'm positive we could have won. If we played extremely well against NBA championship contenders who knows what is bound to happen in this season to come. My last comment of the night is Ariza had a great game. He put up great numbers against a great team. It shows you how much potential he has. He is going to be a star in the years to come.
Well the Knicks lost. Although we can take alot of good things from this game. Ariza didnt look scared out there. Sweetney is performing well. Crawford played well but it looks like he was taking alot of bad shots as well as Marbury. Kurt Thomas was good. JYD did what he's here to do. Nazr Mohammed....pulled down a number of rebounds, got himself a handful of points, a couple of turnovers. And Tim Thomas...I wont even put up the numbers. It might be too early to say it but...Wilkens should consider starting Ariza over TT. Overall nice performance by the Knicks. Wished we could have walked away with the win but did well against "title contenders". Looking for good things next time and better things when Houston comes back.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">...and better things when Houston comes back.</div> IF Houston comes back that is
I figure the Knicks would pull this game out in the 2nd half based on how sluggish the Wolves looked in the 3rd and 4th quarter. The door was left open the wolves just couldnt cash in, Cassell never misses as many 4th quarter free throws & shots as he did tonight but New York could take advantage. I think Ariza played extremely well tonight. I dont think he'll be the Knicks 6th man during the course of 82 games. But he definately is earning his way into a legit role in the Knicks perimeter/wing rotation even for after Houston comes back. I think he really step up & create some positve things for the Knicks on the defensive end, on a night where Tim Thomas really wasnt giving you anything. I think for the Knicks to win that game they really needed Tim Thomas to play well cause he should have been able to put the # up against Wally's weak defense. 3-13 is just unexceptable with Wally guarding you. But its Tim Thomas so.... I think the positves for the Knicks of course besides Ariza. And of cousre the play of Marbury & Crawford, was the play of frontline guys like Kurt Thomas & Micheal Sweetney. Kevin Garnett did his thing as expected but Kurt Thomas & Sweetney didnt backdown. And they got quite a few things done on the back board & offensively downlow, they combined for 21pts & 21rebs. Even tho the wolves arent a good rebounding team along the frontline outside of KG, that was still a good sign for the Knicks frontline going against the MVP. All & All, I think it was a pretty well played game from both sides, guys were a little fatigued in the 2nd half, you could tell by the lack of leg in some guys lift in their jumpshots in the 3rd and 4th and the type of turnovers both teams. But the game was competive thru out. And I think while the Wolves controlled the action for most of the game after the 1st quarter, the Knicks still put up a good fight. And had there chances to sneak out of Minny with the win. And I think people forget how hard it is to win in Minny, they are always amongst the league leaders in home victoires. And home record, they only lost like 7 or 8 times last year at the target center. And most of those came early in the year when they had a bunch of new parts that didnt know their roles.
The freethrows NY missed down the stretch really hurt them a lot. The door was opened as Henacy said but we just didn't take advantage of it. I think as we become more experienced as a team, get Allan Houston back, and gain some chemistry together we will be a really good team. Once Ariza gets a consistant jumpshot and some muscle he will be pretty good. He might beat out Tim Thomas for the starting job next year (that is if Tim is still around). With this teamwork and effort I really do think we will make it to the conference finals.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">He might beat out tim thomas this year (If hes still around)</div> For real. Tim Thomas was hurting my eyes. We got nothing from him. We should start Ariza and have TT come off the bench for him. Then when Houston comes back have Penny switch over and back up Ariza. TT can get the garbage minutes. Yes your all going to say Ariza is a rookie and that TT is better than Hardaway that was just one bad game TT had but I'm sick of him and his silly excuses. His play, as Walt Frazier would say, was "uninspired" as usual. The kid should start over him. Maybe that'll wake that bum(TT)up. My idea will never happen but I just felt like putting it out there.
Yeah, TT was horrible like usual. Not too long from now expect an anti-TT editorial by me. <u>No joke.</u>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, TT was horrible like usual. Not too long from now expect an anti-TT editorial by me. <u>No joke.</u></div> Great. You'll save me the trouble of posting an anti-TT rant.
Knicks looked like "The Little Engine That Could" last night. What didn't look good was that they fell apart in the 4th. They looked tired out there. Lenny surprised the me by going with Ariza so much. Especially in the 4th. TT better get his act together or TT spot will be OWN3D. Crawford look good but needs to be just a little smarter on the floor. Stephon was Stephon. This is the most excited I've been about the Knicks in a while. I look forward to watching this team play.
I know Tim is an underachiever and everything but, it was only one bad game. He had some good looks they just weren't falling for him. Ariza is good and all and will be much better than Tim but, he isn't better than him now. Tim Thomas just had a bad game. Before we start criticizing him let's give it a couple of games first.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Knicks Analyst:</div><div class="quote_post">BEFORE WE START CRITICIZING HIM? Did you watch ANY of the Knicks games last year?!</div> I was talking about the game last night. We can't bring stuff up from last year because we have a different team. And I think now that we have everyone with the exception of Allan Houston we are going to be much better. We should give him more games before we start talking about him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I was talking about the game last night. We can't bring stuff up from last year because we have a different team. And I think now that we have everyone with the exception of Allan Houston we are going to be much better. We should give him more games before we start talking about him.</div> This is becoming ridiculous. When are we supposed to judge him??? I just want to know. When??? He's not in a brand new system. This team isnt radically different than the team that played last year. It's not like he doesnt know the system because he's the new guy. Ariza is the new guy and he's been outplaying him from the preseason into the regular season. From start to finish except for ONE preseason game. He's not lost out there. He knows exactly what's going on. The problem is he cant do anything about it because he is garbage. Thats it. He is trash. It cant be said any simpler than that. The only thing you were right about was when you said that the Knicks are going to be much better. Only thing that I agree with. We will be better and it has absolutely nothing to do with TT. His performance has been atrocious and that's complimenting him. He cant seem to do anything. We even gave the bum an uptempo game just for him and he gives us nothing still. He's been here long enough to be judged for his individual performance. mrj18 we could give him all the games from now until Judgement Day and he'll have shown us still nothing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">This is becoming ridiculous. When are we supposed to judge him??? I just want to know. When??? He's not in a brand new system. This team isnt radically different than the team that played last year. It's not like he doesnt know the system because he's the new guy. Ariza is the new guy and he's been outplaying him from the preseason into the regular season. From start to finish except for ONE preseason game. He's not lost out there. He knows exactly what's going on. The problem is he cant do anything about it because he is garbage. Thats it. He is trash. It cant be said any simpler than that. The only thing you were right about was when you said that the Knicks are going to be much better. Only thing that I agree with. We will be better and it has absolutely nothing to do with TT. His performance has been atrocious and that's complimenting him. He cant seem to do anything. We even gave the bum an uptempo game just for him and he gives us nothing still. He's been here long enough to be judged for his individual performance. mrj18 we could give him all the games from now until Judgement Day and he'll have shown us still nothing.</div> Tim Thomas and Mohammed never really got the chance to develop any chemistry with the rest of the Knicks. Now that they have a training camp with him there's nothing else to do but wait untill the Knicks play I don't know maybe ten games into the season. That will be the real way to see how valuable he is.
mrj18- It's a fact. You're wrong. Move on. No one really believes that Tim Thomas is a good player. Don't defend that bum. We all have to deal with him, it's sad.
I just think that Tim Thomas is not as bad as everyone thinks he is. I know he does things on and off the court that are unacceptable but he is valuable to a certain extent. Without Tim Thomas we will not be as good. Tim is not a star and probably will not be one in this league but we can certainlym use his help. That's a fact
