THE MOST LIKELY TRADED IN 2004 While things change radically in the NBA from year to year, here are some of the players likely to moved in 2004 and why: VINCE CARTER: You can say what you want about Vince Carter, but he is not the elite athlete he seemed to be with Tracy McGrady at his side and a dunk contest trophy in his hand. Vince has fired his agent, and has new representation (still with IMG), and he wants to start over. Now becomes the deal making part. The Mavericks want Vince?s star power and according to league sources they are one of the few teams with interest in Vince?s contract, the Mavs have some serviceable options to send Toronto?s way and if the Mavs stumble as some suggest they might in the regular season do not be surprised to see Dallas re-new their passing summertime interest in Vince ? especially if he stays healthy? SHAREEF ABDUR RAHIM: Shareef is a $14 million cap space lottery ticket, the upside is he can play. He has no place or interest in staying in Portland, so unless the Blazers do the unthinkable and trade Zach Randolph, as the deadline gets closer so will the realities that Portland has to get something for him and there are teams in need of a scoring forward, and Portland has already started showcasing Reef trying to up his value? JASON KIDD: JKidd wants out, as mentioned above he is playing good soldier but he wants to be elsewhere, once he hits the court and shows he is healthy his value will rocket up and a deal is likely, expect Jason to be heavily mentioned in January, but it?s unlikely a deal gets done until next summer? DESHAWN STEVENSON: DSteve is the odd man out, he?s an incredibly likable guy, but his is a duplicate player in a locker room filled with guys that want to play. His deal is highly tradable, but he?s locked into Orlando until after December 15th, at which time expect him to be traded for future picks? KEITH BOGANS: Keith is such an underrated player, he could easily be a second string star if he got minutes, he supposedly won the backup job to Cuttino Mobley, which ranks right up there with being Brett Farve?s backup in Green Bay? Cat has missed 24 games in 6 years in the NBA, and averages 37 minutes a game. Keith was overlooked in the draft falling to the 2nd round, got saddled with the worst team in the NBA last year, and does not have any guarantees for next year. He is in a play me or trade me situation, and he?s got to log minutes this year. Keith isn?t a nasty guy to say it, but his agent and his people say he must get minutes this year. Expect him dealt at the deadline. KURT THOMAS: Isiah Thomas has been packing Kurt?s luggage all summer, and with the emergence of Mike Sweetney in New York as a viable option, do not be surprised to see Trader Zeke, dealing Kurt and his trade friendly contract elsewhere. Dallas had interest as do the Wolves, if Zeke makes a move, expect Thomas to be part of the deal? Courtesy of Hoopsworld
I got 3: Jason Kidd: After losing K-Mart and Kittles in the offseason and his bad relationship with Nets President Rod Thorn, Kidd wants out, now. Latrell Spreewell: After getting denied a contract extension from the Timberwolves, Spree wants out even though he gave the T-Wolves a window of opportunity to negotiate a deal. "I`m open to it, but it doesn`t look like it`s happening." said the T-Wolves guard/forward. Glenn Robinson: The Big Dog is leaving the yard. After being replaced by Andre Iguodala for the starting SF spot, Robinson wants and is being traded.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">VINCE CARTER: You can say what you want about Vince Carter, but he is not the elite athlete he seemed to be with Tracy McGrady at his side and a dunk contest trophy in his hand. Vince has fired his agent, and has new representation (still with IMG), and he wants to start over. Now becomes the deal making part. The Mavericks want Vince?s star power and according to league sources they are one of the few teams with interest in Vince?s contract, the Mavs have some serviceable options to send Toronto?s way and if the Mavs stumble as some suggest they might in the regular season do not be surprised to see Dallas re-new their passing summertime interest in Vince ? especially if he stays healthy? </div> There's a 33.3% chance that he'll get traded during the season. He said although he wants to leave, he's willing to play it out for the season. Rob Babcock isn't dumb enough to trade away Vince. Which Maverick players equals Vince's value? None of them. His value is low and yet, he's most likely going to have a career season (he now has a dynamic man-on-man defense).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">There's a 33.3% chance that he'll get traded during the season. He said although he wants to leave, he's willing to play it out for the season. Rob Babcock isn't dumb enough to trade away Vince. Which Maverick players equals Vince's value? None of them. His value is low and yet, he's most likely going to have a career season (he now has a dynamic man-on-man defense).</div> I disagree. It's more of a 50/50 chance he'll get traded. He doesn't want to play there. And, like I've said before, you don't keep a player on your team who doesn't want to play. And you're wrong, Dallas does have people to trade for him. They have a list of players who they could trade off to get your ever so valuable (but not really) Vince Carter. The Mavs have tons of players, because, quite frankly, the only person that will be deemed untradabeable by Cuban is going to be Dirk. That leaves everyone from Jason Terry and Mike Finley, to Daniels and rookie Devin Harris. So, to say Dallas has no one to trade is an extremely false implication. That team has a ton of players, you just don't think any of them equal his value. There might not be one specific player that equals him, but, put in a couple, they easily do.
Moo, The only reason Vince isnt a Mav is cuz Cuban said we dont need him. Damn that's pretty valuable? Dallas doesnt need any more players. Now... Lamar Odom is my pick for being traded along with Tierre Brown and Chucky for Baron Davis. Not gonna check it on the Checker cuz i dont care but, Lamar just doesnt look like he'll be needed. Mihm is handling his own, Kobe is making him look like a superstar (although i dont see it lasting) and Brian Grant is still a servicable Power Forward.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Moo, The only reason Vince isnt a Mav is cuz Cuban said we dont need him. Damn that's pretty valuable? Dallas doesnt need any more players. Now... Lamar Odom is my pick for being traded along with Tierre Brown and Chucky for Baron Davis. Not gonna check it on the Checker cuz i dont care but, Lamar just doesnt look like he'll be needed. Mihm is handling his own, Kobe is making him look like a superstar (although i dont see it lasting) and Brian Grant is still a servicable Power Forward.</div> As a Laker fan I would not be surprised to see some kind of trade like this. Lamar Odom hasn't been playing up to expectations but yet we need to give him time, he does need a adjust and if a trade like this were to go down it would probably be mid way thro the season, than we could get a real feel how Odom is doing in L.A. I like Odom a lot tho, if he can produce the numbers L.A. needs i would say keep him.
Someone mentioned Lamar Odom and I completely agree, he won't fit into Kobe's system because he's such an unorthodox power foward. One problem is Odom's unable to defend the more physical Western Fowards such as Garnett, Duncan, Webber, Brand, and so on. Another problem is Odom's success comes when Odom gets the most possible touches and the most possible time carrying the team, with the Heat last season those opportunities were endless, but this season he's playing for Kobe. I'd say it's just a matter of time before Kobe and The Lakers realize Odom doesn't fit into their system and they opt to trade for a more traditional bigmen who can thrive on rebounds, putbacks, and doesn't demand the ball to be successful.
Keith Bogans is in Charlotte for the record.. he hasnt passed his physically since coming to Charlotte and is on the IL. Vince Carter isnt going anywhere aslong as the Raptors are in a playoff race.. mark my words on that. My picks would be.. Shareef, Antoine Walker at the deadline (if someones willing to trade something for him just so they can rent him for the playoffs), Latrell Spreewel OR Wally Sczerbiak, and Jason Kidd, IF he comes back healthy and plays well.. no one is taking on an injured player, and I think Kidd is going to milk this injury as long as he can, which isnt the rite way to get out of NJ at all.
I don't see Carter as being traded this season. I think that our neighbors to the north have patched things up, with the south boy. Kaillou, I don't think that Atlanta will ship Toine this season. I think they'll hold on to him, unless things continue to get worse, which I don't think they will.
How can you say that Eddie Jones is totally useless. Did you see him hit those clutch threes against the Wiz. He is a very good player, with a deadly shot. Are you saying you would rather have had Miami trade Eddie Jones instead of Caron Butler in the deal for Shaq? I think the most likely to be traded player is Juan Dixon. The Wiz have showed interest in shopping him around, and they want to get him at peak value. I look for him to be traded during December.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree. It's more of a 50/50 chance he'll get traded. He doesn't want to play there. And, like I've said before, you don't keep a player on your team who doesn't want to play. And you're wrong, Dallas does have people to trade for him. They have a list of players who they could trade off to get your ever so valuable (but not really) Vince Carter. The Mavs have tons of players, because, quite frankly, the only person that will be deemed untradabeable by Cuban is going to be Dirk. That leaves everyone from Jason Terry and Mike Finley, to Daniels and rookie Devin Harris. So, to say Dallas has no one to trade is an extremely false implication. That team has a ton of players, you just don't think any of them equal his value. There might not be one specific player that equals him, but, put in a couple, they easily do.</div> The fact that he doesn't want to play there means very little to management as long as he is still filling seats. I think that's what Chungster was saying, that while the Mavs have plenty of assets to package in a trade, perhaps more than anyone in the league, there is not one player on their roster that would fill the stadium the way Vince does. That's why Babcock wants to hold on to him, and he's made it pretty clear that he is not going to be threatend by any trade demands. (Good for him, by the way. I'm sick of players making all these trade demands) Besides, if Toronto keeps playing the way they stormed out of the gate, I can't see them trading VC anyways. Also, since the latest Ron Artest debacle and the way the Kings are playing, you gotta re-think the Peja-Artest trade again.
why keep vince if hes shooting .30 from the field and he doesnt play with desire like he once did...he doesnt even care if he plays ship that guy out hes SOFT!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chapi:</div><div class="quote_post">PEJA prolly...</div> prolly not who are you going to trade him for? the Artest idea is deader than the skunk I ran over on the freeway last week. you arnt going to get enough talent for the money that he is being paid and I have a feeling that at the end of this year, the Kings are going to open the coffers for him to resign. which is probably what the cost cutting moves over the last two seasons were really about. this season will give them more ideas on what to do regarding Stojakovic based on how the team does & such but he is not going to be traded this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">why keep vince if hes shooting .30 from the field and he doesnt play with desire like he once did...he doesnt even care if he plays ship that guy out hes SOFT!!</div> Once again.... he fills seats in the stadium. Plus, their starting off to a great season it looks like after beating Detroit, Houston, and some other great teams I think.
^Actually the Raptors can get a lot of value out of this trade. Carter is someone who puts fans in their seats. This is something that many teams can use.
