Spree, Kidd, and R. Davis trade thought

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    Spree, Kidd, and R. Davis trade thought. Reply

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    Minnesota trades: SG Latrell Sprewell (16.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 3.5 apg in 37.8 minutes) Minnesota receives: SF Ricky Davis (14.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 31.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: -2.4 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and -0.2 apg.
    FYI - Do remember that Ricky Davis wanted to sign with us before, but was blocked by the Cavs.

    Boston trades: C Raef LaFrentz (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.3 minutes) SF Ricky Davis (14.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 31.3 minutes) Boston receives: PG Jason Kidd (15.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 9.2 apg in 67 games) Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and +4.5 apg.

    New Jersey trades: PG Jason Kidd (15.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 9.2 apg in 36.5 minutes) New Jersey receives: SG Latrell Sprewell (16.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 3.5 apg in 82 games) C Raef LaFrentz (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 17 games) Change in team outlook: +9.1 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and -4.3 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Minnesota, Boston, and New Jersey being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Minnesota, Boston, and New Jersey had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Spree, Kidd, and R. Davis trade thought. Reply</div>

    Firstly, I think there's a place called "The Rumor Mill" where I think such a thread would be better suited.

    Secondly, even though it would make sense from our point of view, I don't think Boston would do this, actually I don't think any team would take Kidd with his huge contract und his health situation, I definately wouldn't.
     
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    This trade wouldnt really benifit the Celtics much.They already have a PG in GP,so why would they need Jason Kidd?
     
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    As a Nets fan, I love Sprewell but I wouldnt want him in a situation or enviroment like New Jersey. A losing team, with no chance of Jersey re-signing him, could make Sprewell very distruptive. That is the making of an explosive situation imo.

    And from the Wolves, perseptive I wouldnt use my hand just yet, meaning the Wolves hold all the leverage in the Spree situation. So he is gonna eventually suck it up & play because the Wolves are already offering him more than any team in next years free Agent market will..so the longer he fights the situation the worst Sprewell makes it upon him. Also from a basketball standpoint, it may not seem like it but Ricky Davis for Spree is a extreme downgrade for the Wolves. While they have simliar style. And they can be off the charts sometimes as far as team distractions go. I would much rather go to war with Spree, the cat has always had a never back down fighters mentalty about him. And on-court you cant help but respect that aspect. If your gonna give up Sprewell, it has to be a noticable up grade.

    And Boston has no need really for Kidd, so I dont see this trade being right for any of these teams giving there situations.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Coranor:</div><div class="quote_post">Firstly, I think there's a place called "The Rumor Mill" where I think such a thread would be better suited.</div>

    firstly, this isnt a rumor, its an idea. therefore it has no place in the "rumor mill"

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    Secondly, even though it would make sense from our point of view, I don't think Boston would do this, actually I don't think any team would take Kidd with his huge contract und his health situation, I definately wouldn't.</div>

    secondly...i agree it doesnt make much sense...the twoves give up latrell and get ricky davis. hardly an improvement
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">secondly...i agree it doesnt make much sense...the twoves give up latrell and get ricky davis. hardly an improvement</div>

    I wasn't thinking about it as a "blow everybody outta the water" thing about Davis. I was saying that he has a similar game to Spree, and since we already have more guys (Wally and Hassell) to can contribute, we wouldn't need all of what Spree brings, plus we get rid of the cancer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">I wasn't thinking about it as a "blow everybody outta the water" thing about Davis. I was saying that he has a similar game to Spree, and since we already have more guys (Wally and Hassell) to can contribute, we wouldn't need all of what Spree brings, plus we get rid of the cancer.</div>

    But you will end all that Sprewell brings late in games, because most times in the 4th quarter Wally S will be in the game because of his offense and Hassell will be sitting, meaning Sprewell now becomes your best perimeter defensive player on the floor. Sprewell's pressence will allow you to use Wally in certain situations without his lack of defensive being that big of Liablity. And it with allow you to use Trenton Hassell in certain situations. And cover up the fact that he isnt going to give you much, offensively. Sprewell brings the balance of offense and defense to make up for what Hassell & Wally dont have on one side of the floor.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">the twoves give up latrell and get ricky davis. hardly an improvement</div>

    Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out why trading one streaky player with a bad attitude for a younger version of the same thing is a good idea.
     
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    Yeah, that would be trouble between J-Kidd, and the glove in the back court. Ricky Davis isn't nearly the player that Spree is, and he has never been on a winning team. This would be the easy way out for the T-Wolves. If I were them I would keep him, because he was a big part of their success last year, and will be this year also.
     
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    Why would the Nets need Sprewell? They've got Jefferson. And Raef LaFrenz won't be making much of a difference at the C spot, he's weak, undersized, and his defense is a liability. This would be a terrible trade for the Nets.
     
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    I'm sorry, but this trade makes no sense. Boston wouldn''t do it because 1) everyone is underestimating Ricky Davis because of his past, 2) why on earth do we want Kidd and his contract and his knees when we have GP and 2 young PG prospects in Banks and West, and 3) if we trade Raef, we would have to give more minutes to Al Jefferson, who isn't ready for steady minutes, and our rebounding gets even worse than it already is.

    NJ wouldn't do this because 1) they have no need for Spree with Richard Jefferson and 2) they are in cost cutting mode, and would never take on Raef's huge contract.

    The only team this makes sense for is Minny. While everyone here seems to have something against Ricky Davis, he has been nothing but everything we asked for since coming here, except for a couple minor on the court antics. He would be an upgrade over Spree. He's younger, more athletic, has more offensive and defensive potential (at this point in their careers), is still improving as a player, and is singed for longer at a lower cost.
     
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    I wouldnt go for this trade. Minnesota is the only team that would i feel would want this trade.Nice try, no
     

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