Man good game Utah. Kobe was the only one scoring. New Lows. 6 assists? 28% FG? Whoa! Hope we can rebound from this loss. Got a big game against the SPURS.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllBoutDaPacers:</div><div class="quote_post">can you say franchise lows?</div> Still bitter about 2000, huh ... yea, I feel ya .. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">Man good game Utah. Kobe was the only one scoring. New Lows. 6 assists? 28% FG? Whoa! Hope we can rebound from this loss. Got a big game against the SPURS.</div> I was disappointed in the way the lakers tried to combat the Jazz's shotblocking. They practically iso-ed the whole second half to cut the lead ... if you take anything out of this game, the lakers do appear to have an effective zone defense.
lol anyways its a good learning experience as long as we win half of our road games were doing good al lwe have to do now is go back to Staples canter and win against the Spurs.
This almost resembled the Pistons/Lakers games. Kobe was being double and triple teamed, and nobody else was hitting shots at all. Kobe shot 43%, whereas the rest of the team shot 23%...and that's exactly why we lost. If nobody else can shoot but Kobe, there's going to be a problem.
For anyone who locates in LA don't tunne into any radio station or anti-Laker networks today, tomorrow, or until we win a game cause they're going to trash us until the next W (hopefully friday ). Specially BSPN, Lee Klein, Hacksaw, etc.
we won so im not worried. AK47 shot everything down. And your beloved Chris Mihm: 6 and 5. Who would rather have him than Shaq?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Go worry about Jermaine and Reggie.</div> Dude, despite your intelligence you have got to be one of the most immature posters here. Whenever someone speaks the truth you turn and insult them. Even if it is haterade, don't change the subject and start hating on someone else's team (especially since the Pacers actually won tonight, without two of their most important players). I have no problem with you defending your favorite player in a Kobe vs Shaq discussion, but now you are just acting silly. How many times did Tmac score 30+ points for the Magic and lose? The weight of the blame was placed on his shoulders right? Yet for some reason when Kobe puts up stats like Tmac, it is now the fault of other people for not shooting? Besides, if you actually watched the game you would know that the Lakers were actually having more problems on the defensive end. Your boy Chris Mihm played like crap, straight up, no excuses. Last night Kobe got 7 assists. Tonight the whole team barely did that. That means that Kobe decided to pass less and try to take over. The Lakers got killed inside. Do you give credit to the Jazz? Do you come and admit that losing Shaq is a big part of it? No, you blame it on everyone shooting poorly, except for Kobe. I'm not writing this out of hate, but it's got to stop. It's not about Jermaine or Reggie. It's not about Luke Walton, or Sasha, it's about Kobe not leading the team TONIGHT. I capitalize 'tonight' because it is just a single game. But regardless, franchise lows are an embarassment. And the Lakers should be ashamed of themselves tonight.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, despite your intelligence you have got to be one of the most immature posters here. Whenever someone speaks the truth you turn and insult them. Even if it is haterade, don't change the subject and start hating on someone else's team (especially since the Pacers actually won tonight, without two of their most important players). I have no problem with you defending your favorite player in a Kobe vs Shaq discussion, but now you are just acting silly. How many times did Tmac score 30+ points for the Magic and lose? The weight of the blame was placed on his shoulders right? Yet for some reason when Kobe puts up stats like Tmac, it is now the fault of other people for not shooting? Besides, if you actually watched the game you would know that the Lakers were actually having more problems on the defensive end. Your boy Chris Mihm played like crap, straight up, no excuses. Last night Kobe got 7 assists. Tonight the whole team barely did that. That means that Kobe decided to pass less and try to take over. The Lakers got killed inside. Do you give credit to the Jazz? Do you come and admit that losing Shaq is a big part of it? No, you blame it on everyone shooting poorly, except for Kobe. I'm not writing this out of hate, but it's got to stop. It's not about Jermaine or Reggie. It's not about Luke Walton, or Sasha, it's about Kobe not leading the team TONIGHT. I capitalize 'tonight' because it is just a single game. But regardless, franchise lows are an embarassment. And the Lakers should be ashamed of themselves tonight.</div> Amen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllBoutDaPacers:</div><div class="quote_post">we won so im not worried. AK47 shot everything down. And your beloved Chris Mihm: 6 and 5. Who would rather have him than Shaq?</div> AK47 didn't even touch Kobe in the second half. Our "beloved" Chris Mihm was in foul trouble...wow. I'd still rather have Mihm than Shaq, because right now...Shaq would be 360 lbs and blabbing about Kobe's shooting (which was near 60% in the second half), which was the only reason why the Lakers weren't blown out by 50.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, despite your intelligence you have got to be one of the most immature posters here. Whenever someone speaks the truth you turn and insult them. Even if it is haterade, don't change the subject and start hating on someone else's team (especially since the Pacers actually won tonight, without two of their most important players).</div> When someone comes in here to be negative, again...and again...and again...it's getting old. The Pacer fan hasn't said a positive thing about the Lakers yet...so why even post in here? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I have no problem with you defending your favorite player in a Kobe vs Shaq discussion, but now you are just acting silly. How many times did Tmac score 30+ points for the Magic and lose? The weight of the blame was placed on his shoulders right? Yet for some reason when Kobe puts up stats like Tmac, it is now the fault of other people for not shooting?</div> Kobe actually attempted many more passes than McGrady...and don't compare the two again, because there is no comparison. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Besides, if you actually watched the game you would know that the Lakers were actually having more problems on the defensive end. Your boy Chris Mihm played like crap, straight up, no excuses.</div> I watched AND recorded the game, like I do every single Laker game. And if you were to read my other posts, I mentioned the defensive problems we had. No excuses. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">Last night Kobe got 7 assists. Tonight the whole team barely did that. That means that Kobe decided to pass less and try to take over. The Lakers got killed inside. Do you give credit to the Jazz? Do you come and admit that losing Shaq is a big part of it? No, you blame it on everyone shooting poorly, except for Kobe.</div> The team shot 23% from the field without Kobe. Come on. How do you get an assist if the person you're passing it to can't shoot? Duh. And Jurassic, go wander into the Jazz forum. You'll see that I congratulated the Jazz and gave them all the credit in the world. But you don't see that. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not writing this out of hate, but it's got to stop. It's not about Jermaine or Reggie. It's not about Luke Walton, or Sasha, it's about Kobe not leading the team TONIGHT. I capitalize 'tonight' because it is just a single game. But regardless, franchise lows are an embarassment. And the Lakers should be ashamed of themselves tonight.</div> It's not about Kobe's leadership, it's about missing shots and lack of defense. I saw Kobe working his a** off tonight, making all the passes he could...but to no avail. Stop being a BSPN analyst and pointing fingers at JUST Kobe. When Kobe shoots 43% and the others shoot 23% with twice as many attempts, especially with Kobe only shooting 7 shots in the first half...what do you say about that? Nothing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Go worry about Jermaine and Reggie.</div>Baiting is not going to be tolerated here. I love the way that you are passionate about your team, as I am about the Warriors. But you have to respect the opinions of others here if we are going to have mature bball conversations. Thanks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Baiting is not going to be tolerated here. I love the way that you are passionate about your team, as I am about the Warriors. But you have to respect the opinions of others here if we are going to have mature bball conversations. Thanks.</div> Is this an opinion? (below) <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllBoutDaPacers:</div><div class="quote_post">can you say franchise lows?</div> No. But I expected this to happen. Nothing new.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">When someone comes in here to be negative, again...and again...and again...it's getting old. The Pacer fan hasn't said a positive thing about the Lakers yet...so why even post in here? </div> What did you expect? The Lakers just played one of the worst game in the history of the franchise! Nobody should have anything positive to say. So you immaturely try to change the subject to the fact that Reggie and Jermaine were injured? Well guess what? Their team won! If you are expecting us to come in here and provide positive feedback like this is some preschool classroom you are sadly mistaken. This is the pros, and tonight the Lakers did not get the job done. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe actually attempted many more passes than McGrady...and don't compare the two again, because there is no comparison.</div> You're right, Tmac has yet to lose endorsements due to bad choices made during the offseason. WTF is your point? How many of Kobe's passes resulted in actual assists? Kobe can attempt passes all day, but if they dont result in points then it doesn't matter pal. Sure, you could say that his team doesn't finish, but was Kmart a finisher before he met Kidd? Nope, which just goes to show that Kobe is not one of those rare players that makes those around him better. Accept it and stop making excuses. I will continue to compare Kobe to (Orlando) Tmac until there is another star on the Lakers. Now Kobe is in a similar situation. That is why I made the comparison. Yet when Kobe has the same result as Tmac (and similar stats) it's not Kobe's fault? It was Tmac's fault in Orlando right? Until now everyone said that Kobe had more desire to win. Maybe he didn't, maybe he just had Shaq. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The team shot 23% from the field without Kobe. Come on. How do you get an assist if the person you're passing it to can't shoot? Duh.</div> Like I said before, Kidd does it every night. Maybe you just need to admit that Kobe does not make those around him better. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Stop being a BSPN analyst and pointing fingers at JUST Kobe. When Kobe shoots 43% and the others shoot 23% with twice as many attempts, especially with Kobe only shooting 7 shots in the first half...what do you say about that? Nothing.</div> Actually I mentioned Chris Mihm, and the fact that the LAKERS played crappy defense. But you're right I shouldn't point finger JUST at Kobe. I should point fingers at AK-47 for owning Kobe on D. I should point a finger at Boozer for owning Odom. While I'm at it, I'll point TWO fingers at Sloan, for coaching a great game (the first game after the loss of his wife by the way. Lastly I'll point a finger at Kobe, for failing to succeed after being put in a position that he requested to be put in.
I'm done posting here for a while. I'm sick of the PM's, personal attacks, and negativity that I'm having to deal with. TWO GAMES, people...we can't go 82-0, but that's what we have to do in order to gain even the slightest respect. Oh well, I'm already through with this.
If haters wanna hate then it's their loss. It's just one game. We just need to re-group and get ready for the next game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm done posting here for a while. I'm sick of the PM's, personal attacks, and negativity that I'm having to deal with.</div> The only personal attacks/baiting was done by you. That's cool though, stop posting once I make valid points, and then claim that you received PMs (which I certainly didn't send), and run away. I guess the excuses could only last so long. I'm not mad though, you probably need a rest before what the Spurs are gonna do to the Lakers on Friday. Believe that.
The Utah interior defense was stifling, led by Kirilenko. In their first game, the Lakers got lots of easy layups, and that opened it up for some open perimeter shots. Additionally, this game Utah was on fire and the Lakers didn't have nearly as many fast break chances off missed shots. In the second half, the Lakers mostly abandoned their team game on offense and Kobe tried to take over. If the Lakers could have gotten some key defensive stops in the fourth quarter, they might have come back, but the Utah offense was too good. It sure was an entertaining game, though, despite the end result being a blow-out. Kobe made some remarkable shots, and Kirilenko is flat out the best defensive player at his position.
Alright, stop with the BS and whinning already. This is only a messege board, if you get your feelings hurt easily than this isn't the place for you. We promote a mature atmosphere here, lets try to keep it that way.
OK what the manual steering happened last night. I cant believe this. This is a shock for me. I cant believe that we lost so badly. I knew this was gonna be a though game but to loose this way its just terrible. We have alot of work to do before friday. Lets all pray that the Spurs have a bad day and we can do something that night.
Blast AK47 and his video game like swat fest. Blast Harping too. And they play the Spurs next. Lets just hope everybodies at the top of their games and Mihm has another Kareem Abdul Jabar first half once more.
