<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">I think getting rid of musselman was the worst move. Why fire someone who has made the team win more games than than the previous coaches. I actually thought the foyle signing was ok. If the contract werent so large. Also the davis trade I liked, I didn't know NVE would be playing the way he was playing against the warriors though. The dampier trade was good too in my opinion. I just don't know why he signed Murphy and Richardson and fisher to such large contracts.</div> No no, Musselman had no system at all and this was one of the reasons why nba players don't like to play at Oakland. But if you have a system you can attract players that fit the type of system we have. Right now the biggest thing we lack under Montgomery's system is a franchise player to run all plays around. Plus we need a big man to pound the ball in or make passes from the high post. Montgomery had some good passing big men like Borchardt and the Collins twins and i think those two are way more talented than anything we have right now. I'm serious. Also we just need to simplify the beginning of the game with early offense and as the game gets narrow, go to plays that the other team doesn't respond well to and just go to the hot hand using those plays. Musselman would not be more effective than Montgomery IMO with our current roster and definitely not in the long run. It's not the coach its the roster. When you have veterans outplaying your starters, what does that tell you? It tells you Mullin must have fallen off the wagon again this offseason and we need Don Nelson to hide his booze. I like Musselman, but was mixed with the Jrich/Foyle signings. Fisher was decent. I like our coach, but do not like the roster. If we had Jerry Sloan or Larry Brown or any coach with a system, we'd be hurting under their systems as well. We're playing with the remnants of the St. Jean open court / motion offense rosters.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">No no, Musselman had no system at all and this was one of the reasons why nba players don't like to play at Oakland. But if you have a system you can attract players that fit the type of system we have. Right now the biggest thing we lack under Montgomery's system is a franchise player to run all plays around. Plus we need a big man to pound the ball in or make passes from the high post. Montgomery had some good passing big men like Borchardt and the Collins twins and i think those two are way more talented than anything we have right now. I'm serious. Also we just need to simplify the beginning of the game with early offense and as the game gets narrow, go to plays that the other team doesn't respond well to and just go to the hot hand using those plays. Musselman would not be more effective than Montgomery IMO with our current roster and definitely not in the long run. It's not the coach its the roster. When you have veterans outplaying your starters, what does that tell you? It tells you Mullin must have fallen off the wagon again this offseason and we need Don Nelson to hide his booze. I like Musselman, but was mixed with the Jrich/Foyle signings. Fisher was decent. I like our coach, but do not like the roster. If we had Jerry Sloan or Larry Brown or any coach with a system, we'd be hurting under their systems as well. We're playing with the remnants of the St. Jean open court / motion offense rosters.</div> Yea our roster is pretty bad. Hopefully when pietrus gets back things will get better. I dont how the offense looks I havent watched any games. I think Musselman did a good job of motivating the players . Maybe it was out of hatred but it worked.
It stinks because I'm always missing the games/chats. Oh well, at least we're active on the forum here.
Ack I didn't make much sense back there because I'm a little flustered and tired right now. But you get the jist of what I meant. Montgomery = good. Roster = wtf? I wouldn't mind "wtf" if we worried about salaries next offseason. Not wise to lock up unproven players. I'd rather go with vets with short contracts and suck for a while than to undo what we've done to get rid of those huge contracts a season ago. But you're right we pretty much have the same roster as last year with the veterans stepping up. Should we start out slowly and do Musselman's motion offense early on for the starters? And then go to halfcourt plays when Dunleavy, Murphy and the vets are on the court? Because we need Jrich 18-20ppg and the guy is dreadful... Maybe its the Dampier effect or something?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">No no, Musselman had no system at all and this was one of the reasons why nba players don't like to play at Oakland. But if you have a system you can attract players that fit the type of system we have. Right now the biggest thing we lack under Montgomery's system is a franchise player to run all plays around. Plus we need a big man to pound the ball in or make passes from the high post. Montgomery had some good passing big men like Borchardt and the Collins twins and i think those two are way more talented than anything we have right now. I'm serious. Also we just need to simplify the beginning of the game with early offense and as the game gets narrow, go to plays that the other team doesn't respond well to and just go to the hot hand using those plays. Musselman would not be more effective than Montgomery IMO with our current roster and definitely not in the long run. It's not the coach its the roster. When you have veterans outplaying your starters, what does that tell you? It tells you Mullin must have fallen off the wagon again this offseason and we need Don Nelson to hide his booze. I like Musselman, but was mixed with the Jrich/Foyle signings. Fisher was decent. I like our coach, but do not like the roster. If we had Jerry Sloan or Larry Brown or any coach with a system, we'd be hurting under their systems as well. We're playing with the remnants of the St. Jean open court / motion offense rosters.</div> We essentially have same roster as last year, excluding Dampier. Yes, we also lost Cardinals, but Murphy is healthy and is a just better player. His presense is more than enough to cover what Cardinal did. Also, we added Najera, Fisher and Biedrins, and so far, the roster is relatively healthy. Do I have a problem with our current roster or contract situations? But, quality of the roster isn't worse than last year. And, I seriously doubt that Monty has nothing to do with our current roster. I am sure Monty has some sort of input about personal movement, because it wasn't like Monty was banging Warriors' door for the headcoaching job. As a matter of fact, probably exact opposite happened, and I am sure he received a lot of power about personal movement. If he didn't like what he saw from this club, he would never agree to resign Richardson/Murphy this early or Fisher and Foyle signing (if he were hired before Foyle signing), when he should be fully aware that there won't be any major change for next few years after the resigning. I will hold my judgement on which coach is better, because it only has been 3 games, although they were dreadful to say the least. Whether the coach has nice system or not, all it counts is to win the game, and despite seriously banged up roster, no support from Mullin (and even some sniping), and internal dispute, Muss was able to make the team playing hard almost every time and squeezed 37 wins. I can only hope that Monty can match that number and far more. I never had any opinion on Mullin, simply because he hadn't done anything, and it's getting lower and lower. In one off season, he managed to change excellent caproom situation to at least 5 years of stone set roster. I really really hope he knows what he is doing, because if not, we are in serious trouble for at least next few years...
I tend to think the type of guys we have out on the floor don't crate enough to spread the floor even more. I know we exclude Dampier from this example, but Cardinal could at least do some damage at small forward. We've got players at the 3 that cannot hit unless they get closer in. We lack good 3 point shooting. But I guess you're right its the same team basically exept more offensive rebounds because we got more hustle inside but not enough connecting shots.
I will try to DL AIM and get in on a chat. This will be nice too because I am in CO, so the game wont get over so late. Chat with yall later. My AIM sn is Warriorfansnc93... Invite me and I will come chat with you guys...
