Vince Carter Game By GAme analysis

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  1. arhieboy

    arhieboy JBB Banned Member

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    At houston: 16 points 3 rebs, 6 assists, 7-13

    The good: He shot well, played as a team player, limited McGrady, nice jump shooting.
    THe bad: Vince only went to the line twice, and thats not enough for an allstar, not even close. He did not cause McGrady to play hard D on him. Carter needs to drive in more next game.
    Needs: Drive in more, and dunk on Big Ben next game.
     
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    first off, McGrady wasn't guarding Carter for more than maybe 5~6 minutes in the entire game. Jim Jackson guarded Carter and McGrady guarded Rose. Dunks yea it'll be great if we can see Carter taking flight but after all, the only thing that matters after the game is who's on the left side of the scoreboard. In other words, as long as Raptors win games I don't care much for Carter's dunks.
     
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    At detroit: 12 points, 8 rebs, 5 assists, 1 block, 1 steal, more importantly the W.
    The good: Found teammates nicely, did not try to force the issue cuz he knew he wasn't shooting the lights out, and he took over during crunchtime
    The bad: Two games straight, not driving enough, settling for jumpers, more freethrows
     
  4. Karma

    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    Vince knows they don't need to rely on him anymore to score. They have plenty of scorers. When he NEEDS to score for the team, he will. Otherwise, he pads up his other stats. As long as the Raptors are winning and are healthy, I don't care what kind of dunks or how he is not driving. A W is a W.
     
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    Also, Vince had a good defender in Jim Jackson guarding him, and a GREAT defender in Tayshaun Prince guarding him, so he or Raptor fans have nothing to be discouraged about as far as points are concerned. His 25+ point games will come soon enough.
     
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    yeah I realized that he hasnt been scoring much latetly or driving. He seems alot more calm then last season almost depressed sometimes on the court but Im sure like u^ siad that he will be gettin back into his game soon
     
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    Bobcats said it right, he got his 25 point game. Against Portland he put up 25 points, 3 rebs, 4 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, and more importantly the W for a franchise record. Today he shot the ball well (10-16) Took more shots in the paint during the late fourth quarter. He was clutch when his team needed him. And he was productive , all this in only three quarters.
     
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    I think the main thing with Vince over the first three games has been that he has looked interested and he's even ventured into the paint to both score and rebound. The guy is ultimately talented, that much is obvious. The main thing with him is that he stay tuned in for 82 games and play to his abilities. If he does that, I for one will be happy

    Like Damon Stoudamire said yesterday, he is probably the only guy on that team that makes that shot yesterday against Portland, and likely only one of a few in the entire league who could conceiveably as well

    He just needs to play a little more P.O'd at times, that's when he seems to focus best...................
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting K Bomber:</div><div class="quote_post">
    He just needs to play a little more P.O'd at times, that's when he seems to focus best...................</div>

    What was he P.O'd about against Portland?
     
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    One thing, arhieboy. The Raptors were at home against both Houston and Detroit, not away. Also, I think Vince doesn't have to score 25 this season to help the Raptors get into the playoffs. Actually, I think by the end of the season, we'll see Bosh leading us in points per game, Carter second and Rose third. Rose and Carter could be great second and third options.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jenike:</div><div class="quote_post">What was he P.O'd about against Portland?</div>
    The wife wasn't putting out?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jenike:</div><div class="quote_post">What was he P.O'd about against Portland?</div>
    Nothing. BUt what I'm saying is, the best games I've seen him play are those when he's been a bit angry. The 2000 Olympics, he was PO'd about his agent and a few other things in his life and look out Frederic Weis. In 1999 he was PO'd about not being named to the Olympic Team originally and 47 points later he had made the Milwaukee Bucks his proverbial girlfriend

    VC's biggest problem in realizing the limits of his god-given abilities is self-motivation. It was never a problem when he had Oakley and Kevin WIllis giving him the hairy eyeball in his early years, but as he's become "The Man", he's not been as motivated in realizing his potential as other star players of this and other generations

    Blame injury if you like, but even some of those are prefaced by a general unwillingness to prepare his body for the rigours of a season. One of the stories you always hear in around the team is Carter's aversion to working out seriously -- it's those types of things that have haunted him and plateaud his development

    I still think the guy can be a top-five guy in the league, but he has to want it and work for it accordingly. In the interim, there is no denying that if he plays with a little more edge and trying to drive the ball down his opponent's throat, he can be more effective than when he is just happily launching from the perimeter
     
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    Sorry og15, as much as I like Bosh as a player, hes still ain't the number one option.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting arhieboy:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry og15, as much as I like Bosh as a player, hes still ain't the number one option.</div>
    Why you saying sorry to me, I didn't even mention Bosh, I said maybe Carte'rs wife wasn't putting out [​IMG]
     
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    I mentioned that Bosh will be the number one option by season's end. Now, the reason I made the statement was Bosh's performance in the first two games of the season, leading the team in scoring both times. If he can keep it up, why can't he lead the team in scoring? And now for you, what do you have to back up your claim that Bosh wouldn't lead the team in scoring?
     
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    Vince's Stats against Sacremento: 12 points 4 rebs, 1assist, 1 steal, 1block, 4-16 A loss.
    Pro's: Whenever he drove in he did some damage.
    Con's: Prolly the worst Carter performance in a long time. So bad that the coach even limited his minutes less than 30. He missed his dunk opportunity, crappy at the line. Did not try to change the outcome of the game, and stayed in love with the jumper eventhough he couldn't hit anything.
    Outcome: By the way Vince is playing, anyone who owns him in a fanstasy pool should be pissed. Not only is he dropping his career averages in every category , hes ruining his value.
    Against Utah: We need a triple double.
     
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    Wrong, the reason he got limited minutes is because he has another game tonight against the Utah Jazz and the coach didn't want to tie him out along with the rest of the starters.
     
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    I didn't see the game nor did I see the highlights. Carter missed a dunk?
     
  19. McGrady^1

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    he got fouled by brad miller thats why he missed it, however it wasn't a big foul imo, the ball rattled in and out
     
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    ya there was a foul on that play. he was held a bit while he was going up for the dunk. he probably would have dunked it but it was a foul so he might have just held it back.
     

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