I'll take FG%, FT%, PTS, Assists, Rebounds, Clutch, And1s, etc. etc. etc. over some measley turnovers. He's not a real PG he plays outta position so to compare him to other PGs in turnovers is...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">I'll take FG%, FT%, PTS, Assists, Rebounds, Clutch, And1s, etc. etc. etc. over some measley turnovers. He's not a real PG he plays outta position so to compare him to other PGs in turnovers is...</div> It's not a crime to be critical of players you like, some people seem to not understand that, the way I play in real life is even similar to how Wade plays, I even copied some moves I saw him do in college, but I'm not going to lie just because I like him. The question was about handles, he turns the ball a lot in comparison to other PG's while handling the ball, this has nothing to do with decision making at the PG spot or passing ability, and Arenas is playing out of position too If you realized, I like Arenas too, and I said his defense was horrible, even beyond horrible, sorry but I won't sugercoat things on players I like. The turnovers he committed last game allowed the Wizards to get the game close and could've hurt the outcome. Obviously turning over the ball can't negate all a player does unless Pierce would be horrible, but it's not to be ignored.
Understand, players aren't perfect, not every stat across the line is going to be top-notch, so what he had 7 turnovers...but his postives GREATLY outweigh the negatives (which was ONLY turnovers).
star players are expected to have lots of turnovers cuz they handle the ball alot. thats nothing new.
AI has a lot of fans too but he turns ball over more than ...well i dont want AI fans jump in here and start bashing so....But he turns ball over a lot...still he's an all star and a franchise player. What's wrong with 2nd year player turning ball over like that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Compare his handles to Baron Davis, Steve Francis, Jamaal Tinsley, Jason Kidd, Stephon Marbury, Jason Williams etc, and they're just okay, but out of those guys how many have his physical abilities? yea, right</div> Forgot Allen Iverson, but you are on point with this comment.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Need4Sheed":</div><div class="quote_post">Forgot Allen Iverson, but you are on point with this comment.</div> :thumbsup: <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "OGmAXiFY":</div><div class="quote_post">Understand, players aren't perfect, not every stat across the line is going to be top-notch, so what he had 7 turnovers...but his postives GREATLY outweigh the negatives (which was ONLY turnovers).</div> Really, I would've never known Read the thread, I wasn't even talking about the Wizards game or how he had 7 turnovers, please enlighten me to what I was talking about in terms of turnovers then post again. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">AI has a lot of fans too but he turns ball over more than ...well i dont want AI fans jump in here and start bashing so....But he turns ball over a lot...still he's an all star and a franchise player. What's wrong with 2nd year player turning ball over like that?</div> Huh? Some of you guys are saying things that have nothing to do with what I was saying, reading comprehension is a beatiful thing ...and like I said "Obviously turning over the ball can't negate all a player does unless Pierce would be horrible [last year], but it's not to be ignored." <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Mr.Wade":</div><div class="quote_post">Alright, enough negatives og! Wade's better all around than pretty much every player mentioned there. Whoop dee doo, he turns it over abit. He'll be working on it during his spare time, that's the type of player Wade is. Next year look to see Wade with a deadly 3 point shot....</div> Guess I missed this but, huh? Passing, shooting, defense, rebounding, scoring, taking all those into account, not really, but that's a different course of discussion
Wades turnovers are a problem. I must say it is. Right now he is averaging 4.0 TPG. THats not too good. Say the other team gets a fast break for 3 of them which is likely to happen, that is giving the other team 6 extra and un need points. THat is not good especailly in close play off games. I hope Wade improves on this during the season because it willl matter. Alright enough negatives about Wade so far he is having a GREAT year. Currently he is a top 3 player in the league right now. Im sure it will decline though. Very possible to become atop 10 player by the end of the year. Wade has already surpassed CAmelo Anthony. LeBron James i better than him by a little bit, but Wade can possibly surpass King James. Note I said possibly i dont want any one to flame me saying shyt like O LeBRons the best Wade sucks" or something like dat lolz.
og15, in a conversation or discussion rather, topics change, you dont necessarily have to refer to the originial statement...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">Wades turnovers are a problem. I must say it is. Right now he is averaging 4.0 TPG. THats not too good. Say the other team gets a fast break for 3 of them which is likely to happen, that is giving the other team 6 extra and un need points. THat is not good especailly in close play off games. I hope Wade improves on this during the season because it willl matter. Alright enough negatives about Wade so far he is having a GREAT year. Currently he is a top 3 player in the league right now. Im sure it will decline though. Very possible to become atop 10 player by the end of the year. Wade has already surpassed CAmelo Anthony. LeBron James i better than him by a little bit, but Wade can possibly surpass King James. Note I said possibly i dont want any one to flame me saying shyt like O LeBRons the best Wade sucks" or something like dat lolz.</div> Thank you, constructive criticism is a good thing, if you watched the game you'd realize he opened the 2nd half with 3 straight turnovers, they weren't too costly though as the Wizards only cut the lead from 10 to 6, but then near the end he had 2 turnovers that let the Wizards cut it down to 1 point. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">His turnovers tendency will get better as he gains experience.</div> Definately, he can work on his ball handling to have less turnovers in that department, and his decision making will improve if he continues playing the point, I mean he isn't really a PG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OGmAXiFY:</div><div class="quote_post">og15, in a conversation or discussion rather, topics change, you dont necessarily have to refer to the originial statement...</div> You're right, but I was talking about him getting turnovers while handling the ball, and I never said his game accomplishments should be discarded because he had 7 turnovers even though the 7 turnovers isn't good, but I hear ya...
