Wade: Top 10 NBA Player

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  1. Miami's Finest

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    This article was written by Dan Le Batard, a lot of ppl might know who he is. He's a famous sports analyst and usually gets the scoop from every sports star when a big move goes down. He's also makes pretty good predictions on things to come in sports.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Deep breaths. Deep breaths. Deep breaths.

    Oh, never mind.

    It is time to officially begin the hyperventilation.

    Dwyane Wade, growing into a superstar right before our eyes, is going to be one of the 10 best players in basketball before this season is done.

    He is the best thing to come out of the draft for Pat Riley since Magic Johnson. He was very quietly better than LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony last season -- shooting better and winning more -- and he's right on the cusp now of being positively Kobe-esque.
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    I thought Wade is gonna be putting up big numbers this season but I've been underating him. I think he's capable putting up a high FG% not seen from a guard since Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

    What do you guys think, can Wade be a top 10 player in the NBA this season?

    <u>Note: If you guys start fighting for some reason I'll take this down. If you can't contribute in a mature way then please don't. Thank you.</u>
     
  2. Trip

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    Top 10? Nah. Wade might be a top 15 player at the end of the season, but right now, every player deserving to be in the top 10 are all doing very well. Shaq might have been quiet the first two games, but he will be the Heat's main man when he gets going. For this season at least, Wade will still play second fiddle to the big guy.
     
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    I dont know about Dywane being a top ten player just yet.The season is young and its two early to tell how players will finish the season,anything can happen; last year Dwyane missed some games and that could have effected his running for the ROY award.

    Even though Wade will likely be a top ten player in the near future,I think its a little optimistic to give him that title at this point.Dont get me wrong though, this guy has a very bright future.
     
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    No question that the guy is good, but I think it's too early in the season and his career to say top 10. There are too many other guys in the league that derserves to be in that group before D. Wade. He has a very bright future. He' ll be in that category in due time.
     
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    I'll say Top 10 player in two years...because it's going to take alot more than stats in a few games. He's going to have to hit huge shots and keep those numbers consistent, which he is very capable of doing.

    There's a reason I was angry about everyone saying that Shaq will make him better. If you guys don't know why I was mad about it, it's because Wade is capable of doing that himself, and if Shaq gets credit for it...it's completely ridiculous. Wade can shoot 47% by himself...and he will more than likely prove it when Shaq makes his departure from the league.

    As far as the ROY award goes, LeBron deserved it...but Wade should've been a close second.

    Top 15 right now? Just my opinion, in alphabetical order (because putting them in order by ability is a bad idea)...

    Kobe Bryant
    Vince Carter
    Tim Duncan
    Steve Francis
    Kevin Garnett
    Allen Iverson
    LeBron James
    Jason Kidd
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Tracy McGrady
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Paul Pierce
    Dwyane Wade

    I'm sure I left someone out...but anyways...Wade isn't that far from being in the Top 10, but it'll be a couple of years.

    Aside from that, I expect a big year from him as an individual player.
     
  6. Karma

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    Not top 10 material yet, but right now he's proving to be (along with Bosh), the two better (and extremely slept on) rookies of last year's draft.

    He is playing phenomenal. And yes, you got to give Shaq credit for it as well. As he has said himself, it has created many scoring oppurtunities for him and he will take full advantage of this. Finally, he's getting the recognition he deserves.

    Top 10 this year? No, but next year, definetly.

    He will become top 10 before 'Melo or even Lebron do.
    If he keeps elevating his game the way he apperently has this summer and keeps on winning in Miami....look out.
     
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    Dwyane is a insanely good player and is a great person. I think Dwyane will be a top 10 player this year and he will have a more successfull career than LeBron and Melo because he has Shaq to back him up and they have a fairly good supporting cast while LeBron is starting to get his and Melo has his cast but Dwyane's is better.

    Top Ten Current Players:
    1. Kevin Garnett
    2. Tim Duncan
    3. Kobe Bryant
    4. Shaquille O'Neal
    5. Paul Pierce
    6. Jermaine O'Neal
    7. Allen Iverson
    8. Dirk Nowitzki
    9. Andrei Kirilenko
    10. Tracy McGrady
     
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    Dwyane won't be a top 10 player by the end of the year. Maybe top 15, but 10 is pushing it. Duncan, KG, Shaq, Kobe, T-Mac, Dirk, AK, LeBron, Pierce, Francis, JO, Brand, VC, Marbury are better than him right now, and I believe, will stay better than him by seasons end. No doubt though, that he'll crack top 10 in the near future.
     
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    I would think Wade has proven to be the true RoY against Lebron James. When it comes to stats (last season) James has a slight advantage except in the FG and 3PT %s. Not to mention Wade's accomplishments in his rookie season like hitting clutch shots and taking the Heat into the playoffs after missing it for 3 seasons. As far as scoring, James has some nice moves but at the end of the day he is a 40% FG shooter, hardly impressive.

    I thought Heat v Cavs was a match up for the true rookie of the year. I think Wade deserved it considering he out performed both Shaq and James.

    And if you consider LBJ a top 10 player (which I don't personally) then I'm pretty sure it's no argument that Wade deserves that spot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">I would think Wade has proven to be the true RoY against Lebron James. When it comes to stats (last season) James has a slight advantage except in the FG and 3PT %s. Not to mention Wade's accomplishments in his rookie season like hitting clutch shots and taking the Heat into the playoffs after missing it for 3 seasons. As far as scoring, James has some nice moves but at the end of the day he is a 40% FG shooter, hardly impressive.

    I thought Heat v Cavs was a match up for the true rookie of the year. I think Wade deserved it considering he out performed both Shaq and James.

    And if you consider LBJ a top 10 player (which I don't personally) then I'm pretty sure it's no argument that Wade deserves that spot.</div>
    Actually...if you are referring to my list...it was in alphabetical order, and it was a Top 15 list. I'd put LeBron over Wade just barely...but LeBron still isn't a Top 10.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually...if you are referring to my list...it was in alphabetical order, and it was a Top 15 list. I'd put LeBron over Wade just barely...but LeBron still isn't a Top 10.</div>
    No not you just you but banks too (I don't know if he did put him as a top 10 though).

    But why do you guys think Lebron is better though. Last season, I think Wade matches up pretty well in some categories, James has the edge in others by 2 apg/rpg, and Wade is far more of an efficient shooter than James. Lebron has nice moves but so what, like I said he's a 40% shooter at the end of the day and that's being a primary option. His teams don't win as much as Wade's did. Wade even helped take his team into the 2nd round playoffs. Not to mention Wade excels in the clutch and has landed clutch shots in his rookie season. Also like I said, in the Heat v Cavs game Wade proved that he was robbed of the RoY.
     
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    Well, it's always going to be a matter of opinion...but I'd rather build my team around LeBron than Wade.

    Everything from leadership to distribution of the ball...to ticket sales and popularity...I'd rather take LeBron, but it's a tough call, believe me, because they both have alot of potential.

    I'm trying to explain myself to where it doesn't seem like I'm degrading Wade...because I'm not a popular face in the Heat forum.
     
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    I think 15 is pushing it even, Wade will be a top 20-25 player by the end of the year, their's a lot of players that are still currently better than him, but in 1-2 years he could break the top 10 barrier as long as he keeps improving, him, Lebron and Bosh will all be in there.
     
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    TOP 20. Lets wait till the ALL STAR break to make a better prediction.
     
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    Hopefully wade keeps his 25, 5, 5, 2 steals 1 block a game consistent through out the entire season. If he does, and the heat win the Southeast, I'm sure Wade will be a top 10 player barely. He'll be better than VC by this year's end for sure, and hopefullly Wade can make the All-star team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr.Wade:</div><div class="quote_post">Hopefully wade keeps his 25, 5, 5, 2 steals 1 block a game consistent through out the entire season. If he does, and the heat win the Southeast, I'm sure Wade will be a top 10 player barely. He'll be better than VC by this year's end for sure, and hopefullly Wade can make the All-star team.</div>
    Not likely, I see him finishing the year with 19 points, 4.5 rebounds, 5.5-6 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.6 blocks, and 48-50% FG
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No not you just you but banks too (I don't know if he did put him as a top 10 though).

    But why do you guys think Lebron is better though. Last season, I think Wade matches up pretty well in some categories, James has the edge in others by 2 apg/rpg, and Wade is far more of an efficient shooter than James. Lebron has nice moves but so what, like I said he's a 40% shooter at the end of the day and that's being a primary option. His teams don't win as much as Wade's did. Wade even helped take his team into the 2nd round playoffs. Not to mention Wade excels in the clutch and has landed clutch shots in his rookie season. Also like I said, in the Heat v Cavs game Wade proved that he was robbed of the RoY</div>

    I wasn't putting him as a Top 10 Player, I was just listing him as one of the many players that I think are, and will be better than Dwyane, at the end of the season.

    The Reasons I think he's a better player than Wade Right Now is mostly because of his versitility and jumper. He can play 3 posistions, pass the ball extremely well, solid defense (still improving), and his jumper is more consistant, even though it isn't great, than Wades. LeBron also has many ways to score because of matchups. He can post you up because he's so big, he can drive on you (Wade has a plus on that over James), he can turn around and shoot over you, and he can score with more ease. LeBron is a more complete scorer and player than Wade at the moment, which is why I see him as a better player.
     
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    Dwayne wade is definately not a top 10 player yet. Not even close. He has a long way to become as good as carter. Some people rank carter at 41! But Carter is anywhere from 15-20, so wade is like 20-30.
     
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    Top Player Rankings

    This is according to the <font color="Blue">Sports Illustrated 2004 NBA Preview Issue</font>, which uses their PVR formula. They had <font color="Red">Dwyane Wade at 61</font>, which I think is way under-rated. But take a look at the top players because after all they are the "experts". Whats your take agree/disagree?

    1. Kevin Garnett
    2. Tim Duncan
    3. Shaquille O'Neal
    4. Kobe Bryant
    5. Tracy McGrady
    6. Elton Brand
    7. Dirk Nowitzki
    8. Amare Stoudemire
    9. Paul Pierce
    10. Jermaine O'Neal
    11. Yao Ming
    12. Allen Iverson
    13. Antoine Walker **strongly disagree. way too high
    14. LeBron James
    15. Carmelo Anthony ** disagree. too high
    16. Ray Allen
    17. Peja Stojakovic
    18. Zach Randolph ** disagree, too high
    19. Shawn Marion ** disagree, too high
    20. Stephon Marbury**
    21. Baron Davis
    22. Vince Carter
    23. Andrei Kirilenko
    24. Chris Webber
    25. Ben Wallace
    26. Ron Artest
    27. Brad Miller ** too high
    28. Kenyon Martin
    29. Rasheed Wallace
    30. Pau Gasol
    31. Lamar Odom
    32. Corey Maggette
    33. Michael Redd
    34. Carlos Boozer
    35. Michael Finley
    36. Sam Cassel
    37. Al Harrington ** too high
    38. Steve Francis **disagree. way too low.
    39. Richard Jefferson
    40. Antawn Jamison
    41. Steve Nash
    43. Mike Bibby
    44. Jason Terry ** Not top 50. not better than Wade*
    47. Chris Bosh ** No Way he is higher than Wade*
    49. Jason Richardson
    50. Gilbert Arenas
    51. Jason Kidd ** big drop b/c of injury. too low
    60. Richard Hamilton ** disagree. way too low
    <font color="Red">61. Dwyane Wade ** disagree. way too low</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Top 15 right now? Just my opinion, in alphabetical order (because putting them in order by ability is a bad idea)...

    Kobe Bryant
    Vince Carter
    Tim Duncan
    Steve Francis
    Kevin Garnett
    Allen Iverson
    LeBron James
    Jason Kidd
    Andrei Kirilenko
    Tracy McGrady
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Jermaine O'Neal
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Paul Pierce
    Dwyane Wade

    I'm sure I left someone out...but anyways...Wade isn't that far from being in the Top 10, but it'll be a couple of years.
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    That list looks pretty good to me. So you rank Wade ahead of Carmelo Anthony? I think one could also make a case for Baron Davis, Stephon Marbury, Ray Allen, or Peja to be in the top 15.
     

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