T-Mac to point guard, and trade for a small guard.

I was thinking that the Rockets should move Tracy to the PG and get a scoring PG who plays the 2.

For example we could trade Clerance Weatherspoon and a draft pick for Jason Terry.

Or we could trade 2 first round picks for Ben gordon.

All i know is we need another scoring option. And both of those guys can score.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinking that the Rockets should move Tracy to the PG and get a scoring PG who plays the 2.

For example we could trade Clerance Weatherspoon and a draft pick for Jason Terry.

Or we could trade 2 first round picks for Ben gordon.

All i know is we need another scoring option. And both of those guys can score.</div>
If you got Jason Terry, there'd be no way SVG would move him up to SG and put McGrady at point. However, if you think about it...Terry, McGrady and Yao would be nice, and it would be sweet to have Terry playing the point.

I think McGrady would be less effective in the long run if he was playing the point. McGrady would have to chase PG's every game, and sooner or later, it would affect his game, just like any other SG unless you're Allen Iverson.

 

Actually, the past few games Tracy has been the one mostly bringing the ball down the court and running the offense. He's our best decision maker and really sees the floor well, so I think its a good move. I don't think we need another shooter -- Ward has played pretty well so far in my opinion. Hopefully when Sura comes back we'll improve even more as far as scoring.

 

Not another shooter but another scorer who can create for his teammates when Yao and McGrady are out. I really hope Ben Gordon doesnt get PT in Chicago , so we can get him. Ben Gordon to me can be a real good player on both ends of the floor.

 

I like the idea of T-Mac at PG, but it is true that it might be too much work for him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">If you got Jason Terry, there'd be no way SVG would move him up to SG and put McGrady at point. However, if you think about it...Terry, McGrady and Yao would be nice, and it would be sweet to have Terry playing the point.

I think McGrady would be less effective in the long run if he was playing the point. McGrady would have to chase PG's every game, and sooner or later, it would affect his game, just like any other SG unless you're Allen Iverson.</div>
No, McGrady is PG on offense, but will guard the SG on defense

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">No, McGrady is PG on offense, but will guard the SG on defense </div>
Yeah, that's true. I wasn't thinking about Ward and Lue playing D. I just assumed that he was meaning him play the point on both sides of the ball.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">Not another shooter but another scorer who can create for his teammates when Yao and McGrady are out. I really hope Ben Gordon doesnt get PT in Chicago , so we can get him. Ben Gordon to me can be a real good player on both ends of the floor.</div>

I think Sura can be that guy. Let's just wait and see how that develops when he comes back.

 

this is basically what the rockets are doing right now....T Mac has been running a lot of the offense and on D Ward is still guarding the pg

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Sura can be that guy. Let's just wait and see how that develops when he comes back.</div>

Do you think that JVG will start him over Ward?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinking that the Rockets should move Tracy to the PG and get a scoring PG who plays the 2.

For example we could trade Clerance Weatherspoon and a draft pick for Jason Terry.

Or we could trade 2 first round picks for Ben gordon.

All i know is we need another scoring option. And both of those guys can score.</div>

The teams you mentioned will never accept those one sided foolish trades. Once Bob Sura comes back he will give many PG's matchup problems enough. Keep McGrady at his natural SG position.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you think that JVG will start him over Ward?</div>

If Ward and Lue are really struggling, then its possible.

Another possibility is Sura will backup T-Mac and Jackson, replacing Nachbar/Bowen. That will allow Ward and Lue to continue playing point guard. So the rotation would be:

1 - Ward, Lue
2 - McGrady, Sura
3 - Jackson, McGrady
4 - Taylor, Howard
5 - Yao, Mutombo

Sura would replace McGrady near the end of the first quarter, and a couple minutes into the second quarter McGrady would come back and replace Jackson. So, you'd have (McGrady, Jackson) -> (Sura, Jackson) -> (Sura, McGrady), while Ward and Lue remain at the point. Sura can still run the offense, much like McGrady does right now, at the off-guard position.

 

We don't need players like Terry and Gordon at the off-guard. These guys are very small compared to other SG's, and would essentially do the same Steve Francis did. What good would trading Francis away be if we acquire similar players right after?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">If Ward and Lue are really struggling, then its possible.

Another possibility is Sura will backup T-Mac and Jackson, replacing Nachbar/Bowen. That will allow Ward and Lue to continue playing point guard. So the rotation would be:

1 - Ward, Lue
2 - McGrady, Sura
3 - Jackson, McGrady
4 - Taylor, Howard
5 - Yao, Mutombo
</div>

That rotation will waste some talent. I know Bowen can be expendible, but Nachbar has been shooting the 3 very well in our first 4 gAmes this season. I also think theres a chance that Padgett vould get some playing time later down the track.

That being said, what about we start with Jackson at SG and McGrady at SF? Would it hinder's T-Mac's performance when it comes to playmaking? I'm talking bout him playing SF theentire game. Nachbar could be the 2nd option in SF and he could finally flourish.
think:
1- Ward/Lue
2- JJ/Sura
3- T-Mac/Nachbar
4- Taylor/Howard
5- Yao/ Deke.

Thoughts?

 

Well, as of now, Jackson and McGrady are interchangeable. When McGrady goes out of the game, Jackson slides over to SG if Nachbar is the one on. McGrady slides over to SF too when Lue comes in for Jackson. Switching them in the starting lineup won't make a lot of difference. Also, Nachbar right now is already a second option SF.

 

Though this is unlikely, I was reading this thread and came up with a solution -- in my eyes -- that solves a few problems:

Houston trades: PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
PG Tyronn Lue (10.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.2 apg in 30.7 minutes)
Houston receives: PF Danny Fortson (3.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.1 minutes)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 30.2 minutes)
PG Antonio Daniels (8.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 21.3 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -3.6 ppg, +2.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

Seattle trades: PF Danny Fortson (3.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.1 minutes)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 30.2 minutes)
PG Antonio Daniels (8.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 21.3 minutes)
Seattle receives: PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 81 games)
PG Tyronn Lue (10.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.2 apg in 76 games)
Change in team outlook: +3.6 ppg, -2.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Houston and Seattle being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Seattle had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Seattle needs a good PF, without Collison at 100%, and Jerome James not being that big. They also need somebody who can take a back-seat to Ridnour or Murray, which Lue is. They get rid of Fortson's contract.

The Rockets need a young, big point guard, which Daniels is. Another back-up to Yao doesn't hurt, and we can always buy out Fortson's contract with next year's MLE. We get a spot up shooter in Radmonovic, who is an ideal 6th man, also two 1 year contracts (Daniels and Radmonovic), as well as a 2 year Fortson deal with the team option next year.

I know the Sonics might not want to do it, but it does help both teams -- in a way..

 

I don't think Seattle would do that trade. They brought Fortson in to strengthen the frontline with solid rebounding. Juwan Howard is a solid PF but not worth Vlad and Fortson.

I think Bob Sura will be good for the Rockets. If he can do what he with the Hawks last year, the Rockets will have a veteran ballhandler with above average offensive skills.

What do you guys think about Juwan Howard, u think he should start over taylor?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting magnomonkey:</div><div class="quote_post">Though this is unlikely, I was reading this thread and came up with a solution -- in my eyes -- that solves a few problems:

Houston trades: PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
PG Tyronn Lue (10.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.2 apg in 30.7 minutes)
Houston receives: PF Danny Fortson (3.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.1 minutes)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 30.2 minutes)
PG Antonio Daniels (8.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 21.3 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -3.6 ppg, +2.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

Seattle trades: PF Danny Fortson (3.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.1 minutes)
PF Vladimir Radmanovic (12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 30.2 minutes)
PG Antonio Daniels (8.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.2 apg in 21.3 minutes)
Seattle receives: PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 81 games)
PG Tyronn Lue (10.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 4.2 apg in 76 games)
Change in team outlook: +3.6 ppg, -2.3 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Houston and Seattle being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Seattle had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Seattle needs a good PF, without Collison at 100%, and Jerome James not being that big. They also need somebody who can take a back-seat to Ridnour or Murray, which Lue is. They get rid of Fortson's contract.

The Rockets need a young, big point guard, which Daniels is. Another back-up to Yao doesn't hurt, and we can always buy out Fortson's contract with next year's MLE. We get a spot up shooter in Radmonovic, who is an ideal 6th man, also two 1 year contracts (Daniels and Radmonovic), as well as a 2 year Fortson deal with the team option next year.

I know the Sonics might not want to do it, but it does help both teams -- in a way..</div>

It's a decent trade for Houston, but I don't think Seattle would make that trade. Daniels is a solid PG, in my opinion, and Fortson provides them some much needed rebounding and defense. Plus, which PF we get should be able to hit a 15 foot jumper. I don't think Fortson's range extends that far.

A perfect PF for our team, in my opinion, would be Donyell Marshall. He's an excellent rebounder and defensive player, and his offense is very good too. Not sure what Toronto would want in return for him, though.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">That rotation will waste some talent. I know Bowen can be expendible, but Nachbar has been shooting the 3 very well in our first 4 gAmes this season. I also think theres a chance that Padgett vould get some playing time later down the track.

That being said, what about we start with Jackson at SG and McGrady at SF? Would it hinder's T-Mac's performance when it comes to playmaking? I'm talking bout him playing SF theentire game. Nachbar could be the 2nd option in SF and he could finally flourish.
think:
1- Ward/Lue
2- JJ/Sura
3- T-Mac/Nachbar
4- Taylor/Howard
5- Yao/ Deke.

Thoughts?</div>

Defensively, Jackson would have a harder time guarding the quick perimeter players than T-Mac, and that's why JVG puts him at SF.

I'd love for Nachbar to be able to get playing time when Sura returns particularly if he maintains his current level of play, but realistically it won't happen. JVG is not going to run a 10-man rotation. I think he'll stick with his current 9-man rotation, and Nachbar will be the odd man out.

 

Methinks Charlie Ward will be starting for the Rockets for a while. In NY, JVG loved the toughness, hustle and D that he brought. Most of his years in NY, he started (except the beginning of his career I think and when Mark Jackson became a Knick again).