I believe Houston are a point guard away from being a hands down favorite for a championship. So why not Payton? It's obvious he's not thrilled wearing the four leaf down in Boston, so he certainly wouldn't be opposed to come to a franchise who are in the hunt. Afterall, Payton's hand is still looking pretty naked without that championship ring. I would suggest Taylor, Gaines, and perhaps a draft selection for Payton. Than move McGrady or Sura to the 3 postion so they both could start. What does Houston think?
Think about it man, why would Houston win with GP when LA couldn't? Let's assume that Tmac and Kobe are equal. Shaq is still better than Yao, and they don't have a pf as good as Malone. So why exactly would they win over Detroit or even Indiana?
Houston doesn't use the triangle offense which limits Payton's game immensely. Point Guards simply aren't meant to excel in that system, but Houston is a completely different story. Payton would bring leadership and experience, a plus for any team in contention for a championship. Not to mention it would strengthen their starting lineup and give them a legitimate point guard. Come playoff time I would much rather see Payton getting The Rockets into their sets rather than Reece Gaines, Lue, or Ward, but maybe that's just me.
I think we could do better with Taylor if JVG ain't gonna start Howard. Only prob is with Howard (or Taylor) gone, we have no backup PF unless you wanna stick Pagett in that slot, eeewwww. I think we would have to sacrifice a little mire and get a PF to come along with Payton. McCarthy and Payton for Ward, Howard and a draft pick? I kno that JVG wouldn't give up Ward, but he isn't GM hahaha.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting King Edward 23:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston doesn't use the triangle offense which limits Payton's game immensely. Point Guards simply aren't meant to excel in that system, but Houston is a completely different story. Payton would bring leadership and experience, a plus for any team in contention for a championship. Not to mention it would strengthen their starting lineup and give them a legitimate point guard. Come playoff time I would much rather see Payton getting The Rockets into their sets rather than Reece Gaines, Lue, or Ward, but maybe that's just me.</div> I think that everyone in their right mind would rather see GP than Gaines, Lue, or Ward, but that isn't the issue. A problem arises when you bring in a pg and give him too much freedom (especially after he is coming off of the triangle offense). You end up with a guy shooting the ball as much as he wants, and resorting to isolation on every other play (like Franchise). This greatly limits Yao's touches, and potential. Not to mention that it leaves Tmac unhappy.
So far, it's become evident that point guards in our system need to be able to hit the three pointer. Payton was never a great outside shooter. He needs the ball in his hands to create going to the basket. I have a lot of respect for his game, but I don't think it would be a good match.
^^^^Exactly Payton can't shoot, I'd rather have Ward.......Payton isn't as quick as he used to be, and it showed last year in the playoffs when every pg he went against burned him.....plus he can bring a bad attitude to the team......it might sound crazy, but I'd rather have Tyron Lue starting than GP
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^^Exactly Payton can't shoot</div> What exactly are you guys smoking? How can you say that Payton can't shoot, especially when your last pg was Stever Francis (who barely shot 40% last year, and under 30% for behind the arc). Payton shot 47% last year. Houston pgs have NOT had to be three point shooters, especially since you had both Mobley and Jim Jackson last year. GP is not going to put up 20ppg anymore, but he would still dish out more assists than Lue or Ward, be real. I dont think that Payton would fit into the Rockets system, but his shooting is not the reason why.
payton has never been a good 3 point shooter....if his fg % was 47 it was probably off of layups.....in conclusion Gary needs to retire
Another point, didn't he say that he didn't want to move his family again? So why would he want to move to Houston when he didn't want to move to Boston? Plus, trading one of our PF's for him will kill us since we have a horrible backup PF but a stocked up guard lineup. Do we even have enough cap space for him?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">payton has never been a good 3 point shooter....if his fg % was 47 it was probably off of layups.....in conclusion Gary needs to retire</div> Wow....... You are single-handedly changing my opinion of Rockets fans.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston pgs have NOT had to be three point shooters, especially since you had both Mobley and Jim Jackson last year. GP is not going to put up 20ppg anymore, but he would still dish out more assists than Lue or Ward, be real. I dont think that Payton would fit into the Rockets system, but his shooting is not the reason why.</div>Last year, we had Mobley and Jackson who were consistent three-point shooters. This year, we have Ward and Jackson, and T-Mac occasionally. The reason we need outside shooters is because of the open looks that our perimeter guys will get when McGrady penetrates or when Yao passes off after getting double-teamed. If we get Payton, then the only guy capable of taking that shot will be Jackson, which will do more bad to our offense than good.
I'm convinced Payton is washed up...I'm fine with our team how it is...If Payton cant play in a structured system with Kobe and Shaq, what makes yall think he can play in a structured system with Yao and TMac?? Payton's way past his prime and has maybe 2 decent years left...
Im guessing none of you heard of the Mo Taylor, Ty Lue for GP and Delonte West? Apparently, the deal fell apart because the Celtics wanted Boki (this was after we declined the option) and the Rockets said no. This was reported on 610 a lot, and CF.net. I would like GP here, but on NBA TV, they said that Alonzo Mourning was (is) really considering Houston, if the Nets buy his contract out. Problem is, we don't have more than 1 million to sign him, unless we get one. But Mourning would be great here, then we could trade J Howard (even with his 20 point performance, I'm not liking him and Ward..). Though slow, he can play PF and C. But those are just my thoughts, dont go start bashing me.. We really don't have a 'plan' here, like the triangle, but GP wouldn't get his shots, and get mad. We need to go younger, and I'm hoping Spanoulis is as good as scouts say, or that Barrett will get some playing time in an actual game.
Mourning wants to join us? Wow, Yao, Deke and Zo will form an impressive trio at center, although Zo and Deke are not who they used to be. However, Mo Taylor and Lue for GP and West? I've never heard of that, but it wouldn't make sense. Moving Taylor would really weaken our PF spot, and Payton is not who I'd like running the point for us. I'm fine with how we are.
Wow....... You are single-handedly changing my opinion of Rockets fans ^^^^^quote what, Payton is old and washed up.....I'd pick a lot of pg's in the nba to start over him
