Lebron James (Superstardom? The Best?)

LeBron's shooting isn't as bad as you think. I think he's just inconsistent and maybe streaky. He still fades back unnecessarily and rushes some of his shots, but he does make some clean jumpers and has noticebly improved from last year.

His shot isn't up to par with Kobe or T-Mac, but neither of them were great shooters intially in their career. They had the potential to either swish or brick or air ball, and I think LeBron is similar in that respect.

He isn't someone you need to double on the perimeter, but he certainly has the skill and drive to improve his game to eventually become that type of player.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">If he is better than Kobe it won't be by much. And Kobe plays great defense. He was all NBA defensive first team and if not second.</div>
Kobe's defense is overatted sometimes, good defender, but I wouldn't consider him a first team defender, but whatever....

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NuSpace:</div><div class="quote_post">LeBron's shooting isn't as bad as you think. I think he's just inconsistent and maybe streaky. He still fades back unnecessarily and rushes some of his shots, but he does make some clean jumpers and has noticebly improved from last year.

His shot isn't up to par with Kobe or T-Mac, but neither of them were great shooters intially in their career. They had the potential to either swish or brick or air ball, and I think LeBron is similar in that respect.

He isn't someone you need to double on the perimeter, but he certainly has the skill and drive to improve his game to eventually become that type of player.</div>

Exactly! In the begining of their careers. Just like LeBron James. He is in the begining of his career and has more work to be considered a "superstar" because he can drop 20 a night doesn't mean he's a superstar. With superstars there is no question about them because everyone is sure that they are. Now if LeBron James was a superstar this thread wouldn't even exist.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe's defense is overatted sometimes, good defender, but I wouldn't consider him a first team defender, but whatever....</div>

It might be overrated at times but, his defense is good. One can not deny that.

 

lebron james is overrated.

just playin he's lived up to the hype and much more. lebron is going to end up having a better career stats wise then kobe and mj. legacy wise? better then kobe, not mj. kobe bryant i don't really like comparing him to mj until he finishes his career. everybody knew about mj, he was a household name around the world, time will tell if lebron is going to leave that type of impact. tmac and kobe are the top players right now? well i agree lebron is right up there with them right now. his court awareness and leadership is great, shooting though sub-par. year two is going to be sweet for this kid.

 

What's scary about LeBron is he's putting up awesome numbers even though his jumper has been off so far this year. If he improves his outside shot, he could average 30 ppg.

 

I don't think LeBron is overated. He doesn't have much on his team, but he's carrying them anyways. His points don't really matter to me, because he can score at will on a team without many scorers, but look at his other stats: 8.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 2.5 SPG, 1.67 BPG, .459 FG%, 0.80 PFG, in 44.8 MPG [League High/High MPG Due to Overtime game(s)], while commiting 3.5 TOPG with a +29 Efficentcty.

Numbers don't tell the whole story, as he has made clutch shots, and came up big in the clutch. He's as good as advertised, maybe better.

 

anyone that thinks lebron james is overrated simply hasnt had the privelage of watching him over the course of an entire game, or stretch of games. All anyone sees are his highlights, but his court presence, his vision, and his leadership are on display everytime he steps on the floor. He is already the best athlete in Cleveland's history during my lifetime, which is only 20 years, but he is the first player we've had that is a true superstar. and yes he is a superstar.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe's defense is overatted sometimes, good defender, but I wouldn't consider him a first team defender, but whatever....</div>


i totally agree. excellent point

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think LeBron is overated. He doesn't have much on his team, but he's carrying them anyways. His points don't really matter to me, because he can score at will on a team without many scorers, but look at his other stats: 8.0 RPG, 6.0 APG, 2.5 SPG, 1.67 BPG, .459 FG%, 0.80 PFG, in 44.8 MPG [League High/High MPG Due to Overtime game(s)], while commiting 3.5 TOPG with a +29 Efficentcty.

Numbers don't tell the whole story, as he has made clutch shots, and came up big in the clutch. He's as good as advertised, maybe better.</div>

How many games has James played? Not more than 8. James is averaging more points because he has no one else as you said. McGrady didn't have much on his team that's why he dropped 62 points. James clutch because of one game? What happened to the other 82 last season? Other than Phoenix have tyhey one against any team that's impressive? They haven't. LeBron James has yet to reach superstardom.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">i totally agree. excellent point</div>

Its funny how much you guys hate Kobe i mean what has the guy done to you?? Dont hate on him because hes on the top of all Shooting guards in the NBA everything hes accomplished you guys try to take away he has those awards he deserves those awards Face it dont make excuses.

 

33, 12 and 4 tonight for Lebron, he is quickly become to be one of the best guards around. Hell he has had a better season so far than both Kobe and Mcgrady. I will be surprised If Lebron doesn't become one of the best players EVER, he should be top 5 by the end of his career If he stays injury free. What this kid is doing at just 19 is amazing.

 

Can I ask everyone what their definition of a superstar is?

A superstar is one that stands out more than the regulars. So does this make TMac and Vince Carter "superstars"? I don't think they have won anything special from my knowledge. But they have tremendous talent that hovers them over mediocre players that are stars as well :Nash, Maggette, Ginobili, just to name a few.

Now if you are saying that LeBron isn't on the same page as a Vince Carter, a TMac, a Paul Pierce (superstars), then you sir are insane. LeBron became a superstar in when he got drafted.

LeBron is very consistant with his numbers and has YET to drop an under 20 point effort this season. He just dropped 33/12/4 on the Warriors tonight, and he was also rewarded NBA Player of the week. Superstardom was written on LeBron when he was in highschool and nothing has changed today.

 

Make it deep in the playoffs and win. Then you'll be superstar!

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">Make it deep in the playoffs and win. Then you'll be superstar!</div>

You mean like Tmac?

 

And Vince Carter?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MagicFan3:</div><div class="quote_post">LeBron is a star in my mind. He is averaging about 28 or 29 ponts per game (what Tracy McGrady averaged last year) and he is playing awesome. He can play defense better than Tracy McGrady and he is only 19! People forget that he is so young and think of this, he can only get better in the next 10 years. LeBron James will be the next Michael Jordan if not better.</div>

I was looking through the posts and this one made me stop. Not all of it, just the last sentence. I was agreeing til that. Let me say this, no one will ever be Michael Jordan, and no one will ever be better. When he wins 6 finals MVPS, a few season MVPS, a handful of scoring titles, and 6 NBA titles, along with leading his team to what, three 60 win seasons, including a 72-10 season, which by the way, is a record, than we could say this. But, he hasn't yet, granted he hasn't that much time, but, I don't see him doing that. I can see an MVP or two, maybe some scoring titles, but, I don't see him ever getting his team to a 60 win season, or at least multiple ones, unless he gets on a better team than the Cavs, nor do I see him getting his team 72 wins. Six titles, who knows. Can't really tell yet. It all depends on whether or not he stays with the Cavs, and if he does, depends greatly on how good they are. Or, if he moves to another team, how good that team is and what his supporting cast looks like. But, right now, to go and say he will be BETTER than Michael Jordan is just ludacris.

EDIT: By the way, about the title of this thread...yea, I don't want LeBron to get double teamed....he's kicking major butt for my fantasy team right now and if he gets double teamed, that could hamper his production, and I don't want that.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Infante:</div><div class="quote_post">Can I ask everyone what their definition of a superstar is?

A superstar is one that stands out more than the regulars. So does this make TMac and Vince Carter "superstars"? I don't think they have won anything special from my knowledge. But they have tremendous talent that hovers them over mediocre players that are stars as well :Nash, Maggette, Ginobili, just to name a few.

Now if you are saying that LeBron isn't on the same page as a Vince Carter, a TMac, a Paul Pierce (superstars), then you sir are insane. LeBron became a superstar in when he got drafted.

LeBron is very consistant with his numbers and has YET to drop an under 20 point effort this season. He just dropped 33/12/4 on the Warriors tonight, and he was also rewarded NBA Player of the week. Superstardom was written on LeBron when he was in highschool and nothing has changed today.</div>

Of course his numbers haven't gone below 20 because he's only played 7 games. KVH, Walker, and Ilgauskas have been putting up pretty good numbers so far. Are they superstars? I think not. Superstardom might have been written on James since HS but, that's just because it's in his future. James might have put up good numbers (far less superior to Jordan) in his few seven games as a sophomore but because of this that does not make him a superstar. I think I would have liked LeBron James much more if too many people weren't hyping up so much.

 

Lebron the best guard in the league, no doubt

Lebron james is simply amazing and i love to watch him play. He is hands down the best guard in the league and hes not even 20 yet. That is crazy. His jumper has improved and he his leaving nba fans in awww with is all over game. What do you guys think?

 

LeBron is not better than Kobe, T-Mac, Pierce, Allen, and all the others in the NBA. Because he had a few decent games in the begining of this season cannot compare to what these guards have done throughout their whole career.