Golden State @ San Antonio: Game Thread, 11/10/2004 (& Mike Dunleavy's ESPN Profile)

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  1. rjnavarrete

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    Whats wrong with their shooting? No one can win shooting 36 percent every night.
     
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    I think the problem is that they're not able to use their quickness, penetrate enough, and also have problems getting used to Monty's offensive scheme. They'll get used to it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Zhone:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the problem is that they're not able to use their quickness, penetrate enough, and also have problems getting used to Monty's offensive scheme. They'll get used to it.</div>

    Tell me about it. I can't believe people are crying that we actually fired Musselman. He had his two years and couldn't do anything, it's obvious his time was over. THE END!

    The problem with the warriors is that they need to move around more. Someone on the espn message board pointed out saying that they still stand around like the Musselman days and I couldn't agree more. When someone else's number is being called, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be on the move and fighting to get good position whether it's for a cut or board.
    2nd The players take bad shots. The big three are either shooting after one pass, with someone in their face, or try to iso their man which will actually give their defender more time to react and in the W's case more time contemplating to shoot or not. Ginoboli (however you spell it) is not a great ball handler. He's good but can still always get to the rim and that is because he reacts on the move and is aggressive. If he stayed still like JRich he would a much harder time getting to the rim.

    They need to use the 24 second clock better. They waist time bringing the ball up and contemplate too much about whether to shoot or not. Swing the ball around to utilize the clock and get an open look. There's only 24 seconds so don't waist time worrying like my ex girlfriend. I think this is what Monty is trying to preach but the entire team is taking a while to get this. These cats gotta run n gun and Murphy has to take fewer shots. Score off of some transition points, putbacks, cutting, someone else's penetration, post moves and use the jumpers to keep your man honest. The good teams are all doing this, just watch TNT right now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">Tell me about it. I can't believe people are crying that we actually fired Musselman. He had his two years and couldn't do anything, it's obvious his time was over. THE END!

    The problem with the warriors is that they need to move around more. Someone on the espn message board pointed out saying that they still stand around like the Musselman days and I couldn't agree more. When someone else's number is being called, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be on the move and fighting to get good position whether it's for a cut or board.
    2nd The players take bad shots. The big three are either shooting after one pass, with someone in their face, or try to iso their man which will actually give their defender more time to react and in the W's case more time contemplating to shoot or not. Ginoboli (however you spell it) is not a great ball handler. He's good but can still always get to the rim and that is because he reacts on the move and is aggressive. If he stayed still like JRich he would a much harder time getting to the rim.

    They need to use the 24 second clock better. They waist time bringing the ball up and contemplate too much about whether to shoot or not. Swing the ball around to utilize the clock and get an open look. There's only 24 seconds so don't waist time worrying like my ex girlfriend. I think this is what Monty is trying to preach but the entire team is taking a while to get this. These cats gotta run n gun and Murphy has to take fewer shots. Score off of some transition points, putbacks, cutting, someone else's penetration, post moves and use the jumpers to keep your man honest. The good teams are all doing this, just watch TNT right now.</div>


    I disagree about firing musselman. For one they were fairly sucessful last year with basically the same team and a bunch of injuries. Fairly succesful meaning more successful than the past years before Muss was hired.
    Why change something that appeared to be working despite the lack of talent and injuries. Also by making a change, like others have said, the players are having a hard time adjusting to the new system. In addition firing mussleman was typical warriors. They can't seem to get any continunity. Year after year they have a different team and a different coach.
    Obviously the warriors this year and last year are offensivly challenged, but I liked musselmans system becuase it was much simpler.
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Wow I wish we had Dunleavy's father on our team.

    I saw that pic earlier and I was like damn this season is so stressful it takes years out of your life.
     
  7. Warriorfansnc93

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    My opinion on Mussleman is just like everyone else's that supports him. He made the Warriors competetive. How many times did we get blown out when we played under Muss? Compare that number to years before. Our record went way up to 37-38 wins when we had a hard time breaking into the 20's before him. And the team he had last season was not all that great considering the trades, FA signings and injuries. Now the bad part is that Muss had wierd sub patterns, and sometimes the offense sputtered towards the end of games. But is that any worse than what we have done so far this year? At least we were scoring points under Muss. I will give it time, but lets put it this way:If the players dont get "used to the system" and Monty is fired a year or two from now, I will be saying I told you so and that we should have kept Muss.
     

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