I'm not accusing or assuming, but you guys remember the "Ming Dynasty is the future" accolades. I know it's only his second season, but do you think that he will be as dominant as people thought. I know one he needs to bulk up and get some heat, becuase flopping for the occasional charge is not a future Hall-Of-Famer's bread and butter. I know he can block shots, but he needs......someone like ZO to teach him. Ewing is great, but Zo is ferocious.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not accusing or assuming, but you guys remember the "Ming Dynasty is the future" accolades. I know it's only his second season, but do you think that he will be as dominant as people thought. I know one he needs to bulk up and get some heat, becuase flopping for the occasional charge is not a future Hall-Of-Famer's bread and butter. I know he can block shots, but he needs......someone like ZO to teach him. Ewing is great, but Zo is ferocious.</div> It's his third year, and I don't ever remember seeing him flop. He's not afraid of taking contact and drawing charges, which he'll do more often than actually trying to block shots. Yao Ming is a good player -- not a great player. My hopes were that he'd develop into a legitimate uper-echelon star this season, but its been disappointing so far. His inconsistency is what's most frustrating. He can go for 33 points and 13 boards one night, and then crap out a 6 point, 3 boards effort the next night. He'll never be as dominant as some people thought. He's not going to be the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain or Shaq or Hakeem. At the same time, I think he'll have a better career than the above-average centers like Rik Smits, Ron Siekaly, and Vlade Divac. Right now, I see him at about the same level of Ilgauskas from Cleveland, which is good enough to legimately make an All-star team, but not exactly super-star caliber which many people think of him as.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's his third year, and I don't ever remember seeing him flop. He's not afraid of taking contact and drawing charges, which he'll do more often than actually trying to block shots.</div> Although I am a little biased, I must say that Yao has had some horrible games. For an example, right now he's not great at avoiding foul trouble, which ends up keeping him on the bench for half the night. This can be seen from the Rockets Nets game recently with him having I think 6 points, which isn't great at all. I mean, old Deke did better than him. Another point is that he still needs to develop his rebounding skills. He should be averaging alotta rebounds per night but his sluggish agility and lanky form has limited his rebounds greatly. He has some great nights, but others are not so great. Therefore, I must admit that partly, he was all hype. People just thought too much of him since he's 7' 6" and this huge Chinese man.
Yao's main weaknesses that are sort of his own fault is his turnovers and as Aznxballer stated, his foul trouble. While he also lacks stamina, that is not something you can improve on just if you wanted to. However, Yao can work on avoiding getting the ball stripped in the post and his tendency to foul unnecessarily. He has been tagged with a lot of offensive fouls on moving picks, and he will have to adapt on that to be successful.
No he won;t be as good as they cracked him up to be, but he will still be a dominant force in the Shaq-less West. He will need to be able to stay in games when they get tight, sort of like Aaron Miles for Kansas. He has the ability to put up 25-11 every night but just doesn't. He still could be a hall of famer, and I wouldn't be too surprised if he did end up one. I look for him to end his career with averages like 21-10-2, that seems about right. But yeah some people put way too much hype on him.
I dont know. He could end up like shawn bradley, have a few decent seasons then just disappear. or he could get better but he doesnt have the fierceness to be a go to player. but I have a feeling he'll be okay. But to answer the question he was about 60% hype.
Yao will be a hall-of-famer without a doubt IMO, although it might not be because of his play on his court. The success he enjoyed in his first season really opened a lot of people's eyes to basketball and basically he one-handedly got the the NBA 1.2 billion more fans. He'll be named to the HOF because of his influence on a global scale.
Yao Ming is hyped beacuse: #1- He is a Chinese player in a predominantly black and somewhat white league. #2- He is 7'6 #3- He can play the game, fundamentals and all. With these factors, everyone just expected him to roll over the league. He has the skills, and the size. I believe he lacks the heart of a true "future hall-of-famer". As of now, he just looks fragile and soft out there. He needs to bulk up some more. However, I think he will get better every year that progresses. He's only in his third year. He will be an above average superstar center but he definetly won't be all he was cracked up to be anytime soon. He's not higher than Jermaine O'Neal or even Ben Wallace right now so I don't think he's really living up to the hype right now. He is a phenomenal player but he is not living up to the hype like Lebron is doing.
Yao, just on raw talent, is still a top 3 center in the league...he has great agility, a nice touch, great passing skills for a man his size and just a nice sense of the game..however what he has not mastered is the physical aspect that his position requires, and that is what the NBA is all about- aggressiveness and physicality...We must remember that Yao is coming from a country and style of ball that embraced team play, unselfishness and sportsmanship...the complete opposite of American basketball...once he fully grasps and understands that he needs to be selfish and aggressive in order to reach his potential, then he'll be the full force we've expect him to be...
Yao Ming isn't aggressive at all and he doesn't dunk as much as other 7"6 men would. That is what bothers me. I agree about him not taking contact. I have never liked Yao Ming on the court and I don't think I ever will. It is just one of those guys you don't like as basketball players. He may be a great guy and all but I don't like his game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MagicFan3:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao Ming isn't aggressive at all and he doesn't dunk as much as other 7"6 men would. That is what bothers me. I agree about him not taking contact. I have never liked Yao Ming on the court and I don't think I ever will. It is just one of those guys you don't like as basketball players. He may be a great guy and all but I don't like his game.</div> It bothers you because he doesn't dunk as much as other 7'6" men would. Wow. What a comment.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MagicFan3:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao Ming isn't aggressive at all and he doesn't dunk as much as other 7"6 men would. That is what bothers me. I agree about him not taking contact. I have never liked Yao Ming on the court and I don't think I ever will. It is just one of those guys you don't like as basketball players. He may be a great guy and all but I don't like his game.</div> What's your point? Dunking the ball equals agressiveness? If that's your view then I completely DISAGREE. Agressivness is when you drive hard to the hoop and give your team TWO points, whether a dunk or a layup DOES NOT MATTER! Yao Ming tonight dominated with 27 points on 13-15 shooting...even though the result of the game wasn't exactly what everyone expected. No one had an answer for Ming tonight. He made his shots, "dunked" on Childress..he did everything. Even the Laker game, He dominated that on too. GOing 25 points fouled out Grant, Mihm had 5 fouls and Cook had 5 fouls. That's pretty aggressive stuff to me. And too he HAS bulked up. Have you seen his muscles? He has more than Dirk man. He's slowly getting better...but i will agreee that he is hyped up TOO MUCH. He's good but too much hype.
Shawn Bradley and Gheorghe Muresan both dunk/dunked amazing, they were very agressive. There's not really that many people that's 7'6 to base that statement on. How many 7'6 people have u seen put up 13-15 shooting and 27 points in NBA level play? I do think he's mostly hype right now, because he's very inconsistent, but once he learns the game and figures out how to use his size to even more advantage, then he will be an elite player easily.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">It bothers you because he doesn't dunk as much as other 7'6" men would. Wow. What a comment.</div> Yeah because since I am short, I feel that the height is going to waste and it could go to someone that will use it
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not accusing or assuming, but you guys remember the "Ming Dynasty is the future" accolades. I know it's only his second season, but do you think that he will be as dominant as people thought. I know one he needs to bulk up and get some heat, becuase flopping for the occasional charge is not a future Hall-Of-Famer's bread and butter. I know he can block shots, but he needs......someone like ZO to teach him. Ewing is great, but Zo is ferocious.</div> Yeah. All Hype, I've never believed he good produce super super star numbers people made out he did.
How many 7'6" people have the skills that Yoa possesses, not many. People forget that he's still relatively new to the league too. I actaully don't think he's overhyped. How many asians are playing in the NBA with any success? Wang Xiu Xiu is an afterthought these days. Granted he may not be the most consistent, but it'll come. By season's end, he should be rightfully considered a superstar, but that's just my opinion
