Ppg- 19.2 Rpg- 7.40 Apg- 1.8 How good are these numbers for a wing player? Below Average? Average? Above average? Good? Great? Excellent?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Good. What about minutes and field goal percentage?</div> 46% 32 min/game
Thats great! To be averaging 19 points on 46% FG Percentage is awesome. Also 7 rebounds is really good for a wing player.
ya i have to say great too. 19 points is great and like MagicFan said"7 rebounds is really good for a wing player" the one thing that i think that you could work on is your assists. but over all great.
Just out of curiosity, are these numbers for a high school player? I say high school because the 32 minutes a game jumps out at me as a regulation HS game and a person with those statistics above would play probably an entire HS game. Regardless of what level of basketball that is, I think those are really good numbers. The assists are a tad bit low for a player of that capability. One thing I would like to know is how many steals or deflections this person get a game, which would show me their activity level on defense.
Those are the numbers of rookie Luol Deng, he has looked really good so far. After watching him at Duke I knew how good he would become but not this quickly. He leads all rookies in scoring and is 3rd in rebounding. So to answer Vintage's question, those are EXCELLENT numbers for a wing player. Even for a 5 year vet those are very nice fiqures to have but as a rookie? really impressive.
Yes, its Luol Deng. He is posting those numbers OFF THE BENCH! Skiles is a moron and needs to be fired. Thats the whole purpose of this thread.
Those are great numbers. Deng is having a phenomenal season (with the exclusion of last night). He's posted numbers better that most people had thought he'd post, and now, he's really fighting to take someones starting job, be it Nocioni, or for now, Piatowski's. It should be interesting to see how he does as the season progresses. I suspect a drop in his stats, not totally sure how significant they will be though. And yea, Skiles, if he keeps up this crap happy coaching, should be canned, possibly as early as All Star break, maybe sooner, who knows though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Those are great numbers. Deng is having a phenomenal season (with the exclusion of last night). He's posted numbers better that most people had thought he'd post, and now, he's really fighting to take someones starting job, be it Nocioni, or for now, Piatowski's. It should be interesting to see how he does as the season progresses. I suspect a drop in his stats, not totally sure how significant they will be though. And yea, Skiles, if he keeps up this crap happy coaching, should be canned, possibly as early as All Star break, maybe sooner, who knows though.</div> Deng didn't play too well last night. Nocioni did. However, Deng should still be starting. I don't know how well a Deng/Nocioni wing tandem would work. Nocioni got lit up by Pierce....not to say that doesn't happen, but Nocioni wasn't really staying with Pierce. Can Deng? I don't know. Haven't seen enough of either to determine one way or another. But I think we should use our strength: athleticism and speed. Phoenix is going with a small lineup and winning. We seem to be playing well with Duhon AND Hinrich in the same backcourt. See: Nets comeback. The lineup I'd like to see get some burn would be Duhon/Hinrich/Deng/Nocioni/Chandler Nocioni is definetly physical enough to guard some 4's. The problem with that lineup becomes shooting. Deng is the only one who has shown consistency. Nocioni and Hinrich can shoot....they have just been struggling. Duhon is a question mark. But this team would be able to run n gun, which I think, after an 0-fer start, we should use at some point in a game. What's the worse that can happen? We lose another game?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, its Luol Deng. He is posting those numbers OFF THE BENCH! Skiles is a moron and needs to be fired. Thats the whole purpose of this thread.</div> Look at how many shoots he took off the bench. Nov 5 Took 21 shoots Nov 6 Took 15 Nov 9 Took 22 Nov 13 Took 10 Nov 16 Took 19 Nov 17 Took 5 He is a gunner.
7 boards is just barely above the average of a wing player. Luol should develop his passing skills more to become a more complete player. But it's amazing that he can put these numbers up off the bench. He will be a good player.
7 boards is NOT above the avergae of a wing player. Averaging 7 boards would be in the top 35-45 in the league. consider how many pf's and c's, averaging 7 rebounds as a WING player is really impressive. I'm too lazy right now to check but i wouldn't be suprise if deng is the top 10 in rebunds for a sg/sf. Which is really good for a rookie. Yea he willl be a beast player in the future, i'm amazed at how well he's doing so far in his rookie season
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting S.Livingston14:</div><div class="quote_post">7 boards is just barely above the average of a wing player. Luol should develop his passing skills more to become a more complete player. But it's amazing that he can put these numbers up off the bench. He will be a good player.</div> Averaging seven boards at the wing is very good, and considering that he's playing a lot on the perimeter since he's being asked to shoot, that's great. And why does he need to develop his passing skills? Kirk Hinrich is there for that. He's not a point guard. Sure, passing skills help, but, unless you're a point guard, they shouldn't be too much in your focal point at this point. And Vintage, I think I'm agreeing with you on the lineup thought. The one problem though, where's the scoring coming from? Deng has been consistent, sure. However, Nocioni has been lacking consistency, though he's coming around now. Hinrich has been off so far this season. Tyson is not producing points very well. And quite frankly, Duhon is not a great scorer. I'd almost have to say you should start Gordon over Duhon, however, Gordon hasn't shot very well either. We'll see what happens as the season progresses though. But, eventually, the Bulls need to find a lineup that will get them points, and more importantly, start getting them in the win column.
Smart move Vintage, not mentioning the player's name eliminated biased responses that would have existed. Props. Those are great stats, although I think that he could easily dish out more assists, and should.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Averaging seven boards at the wing is very good, and considering that he's playing a lot on the perimeter since he's being asked to shoot, that's great. And why does he need to develop his passing skills? Kirk Hinrich is there for that. He's not a point guard. Sure, passing skills help, but, unless you're a point guard, they shouldn't be too much in your focal point at this point. And Vintage, I think I'm agreeing with you on the lineup thought. The one problem though, where's the scoring coming from? Deng has been consistent, sure. However, Nocioni has been lacking consistency, though he's coming around now. Hinrich has been off so far this season. Tyson is not producing points very well. And quite frankly, Duhon is not a great scorer. I'd almost have to say you should start Gordon over Duhon, however, Gordon hasn't shot very well either. We'll see what happens as the season progresses though. But, eventually, the Bulls need to find a lineup that will get them points, and more importantly, start getting them in the win column.</div> That is the main concern with that lineup. However, and I do realize I will be blasted for saying this, Duhon does a better job of feeding the ball into the post than Hinrich. At least, so far this season. Hinrich seems to be more concentrated on scoring. I don't know if that has something to do with Skiles or not. But what I do know, is that when the Bulls went with Duhon, Hinrich at the 2, Deng at the 3, we battled back against the Nets. Granted, the Nets aren't a strong team, but battling back from 30 down is something. A sign. For whatever reason, neither Duhon, Deng, or Hinrich were ready to give up. If our team can field players that want to win; players who will give it all to win, we will stand a better chance.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">That is the main concern with that lineup. However, and I do realize I will be blasted for saying this, Duhon does a better job of feeding the ball into the post than Hinrich. At least, so far this season. Hinrich seems to be more concentrated on scoring. I don't know if that has something to do with Skiles or not. But what I do know, is that when the Bulls went with Duhon, Hinrich at the 2, Deng at the 3, we battled back against the Nets. Granted, the Nets aren't a strong team, but battling back from 30 down is something. A sign. For whatever reason, neither Duhon, Deng, or Hinrich were ready to give up. If our team can field players that want to win; players who will give it all to win, we will stand a better chance.</div> The one thing about starting Duhon that could play out to be positive, it'd give Hinrich more freedom. He wouldn't have to be focusing on sharing the ball, because Duhon would be able to. It'd allow Hinrich to play shooting guard (which I believe he could do easily). Because, quite frankly, there is no doubt the guy can shoot. And who knows, if he was given more freedom on the offensive end, given the opportunity to shoot instead of dish it off, who knows what could happen. That would be a big positive I think. It'd make Kirk more aggressive scoring, and who knows, maybe the FG% would go up and he'd start knocking em down with more regularity.
