<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hoggamill:</div><div class="quote_post">Fan: "I followed my friend down to the court and I didn`t notice the melee, next thing I know I see Ron Artest throw a punch into right eye...there has to be some kind of...lawsuit or something....you can`t hit a fan like that." In sounded like he was still shooken up and mumbled alot.</div> THat sucker is lying. Didn't you see? Another splash of beer as Artest walks by and when Artest and He saw each other, they posed to get ready to punch each other. LOL he didn't notice the melee? Is he a dumb and blind? Some people don't want to be responsible. Fans were wrong last night.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">So walking on the court is such a crime that it warrants a knockout punch in the face by a seven foot athlete?</div> I just feel that he should have never been on the court in this first place. You never know, he could have been armed, and could have really hurt someone. Plus he put his fists up like he was getting ready to punch someone, and you know that Artest won't take that crap. I feel that he did the right thing by protecting himself. The more I think about, I agree with you on O'Neal. He should've never punched the guy as he was getting up. One punch is enough for a scronny old fan...
These men who walked on the court know what they were doing. How the bleep can you not see or have any idea of the melee? That's total BS. Anyone notice this part: "there has to be some kind of...lawsuit or something" That shows exactly what his intention was. They wanted to provoke(spelling) the players. You can't come on the court. If I was a Basketball player and a melee was going on, and I saw two players from the stands coming at me, I would knock them out too.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">So walking on the court is such a crime that it warrants a knockout punch in the face by a seven foot athlete?</div> oh come on...the guy didnt just walk on the court...he totally and blatantly stepped to artest. watch the video again. seemed clear as day to me
Ben Wallace technically started the whole thing by shoving Artest, but his punishment from the league should not be as serious as those of Artest, Jackson and ONeil. Players get heated and push each other, that's not new. And surprisingly, Artest reacted well to it, just laying down and waiting till the whole thing calmed down. Then the beer came flying. Honestly, I think that the league has no option but to hand out serious, long, suspensions to the Pacers who were involved in fights with fans. But ultimately, the fans are to blame. Tim Legher wrote an article that I agree with here. It was just another heated melee in the NBA until that beer was thrown. If I was Artest, I would have done the same. Jackson was defending his teammate, same with Oneil. That does not justify what they did, but you can understand it. They should get suspended, but the fans who are responsible should also get some sort of punishment. I won't be surprised if there are lawsuits that come out of this, but I agree that once a fan steps onto the court and steps up to a player like Artest the way they did, you're asking for it.
A similar thing happened at a Cubs-Dodgers game a few years back. Here's a link to the article if u guys are curious what kind of action MLB took .. http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2000/0524/548523.html
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtfan:</div><div class="quote_post">Ben Wallace technically started the whole thing by shoving Artest, but his punishment from the league should not be as serious as those of Artest, Jackson and ONeil. Players get heated and push each other, that's not new. And surprisingly, Artest reacted well to it, just laying down and waiting till the whole thing calmed down. Then the beer came flying. Honestly, I think that the league has no option but to hand out serious, long, suspensions to the Pacers who were involved in fights with fans. But ultimately, the fans are to blame. Tim Legher wrote an article that I agree with here. It was just another heated melee in the NBA until that beer was thrown. If I was Artest, I would have done the same. Jackson was defending his teammate, same with Oneil. That does not justify what they did, but you can understand it. They should get suspended, but the fans who are responsible should also get some sort of punishment. I won't be surprised if there are lawsuits that come out of this, but I agree that once a fan steps onto the court and steps up to a player like Artest the way they did, you're asking for it.</div> So what are the ramifications? What did Wallace and Artest get?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Fan quoted: The melee escalated when Artest stormed into the stands, throwing punches as he climbed over seats. "He was on top of me, pummeling me,'' fan Mike Ryan of Clarkston said. "He asked me, 'Did you do it? I said, 'No, man. No!'''</div> Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oD...ov=ap&type=lgns
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">oh come on...the guy didnt just walk on the court...he totally and blatantly stepped to artest. watch the video again. seemed clear as day to me</div> Yeah exactly. Why are there people who backing up the fans when it's clearly looking that they done what they shouldn't have? I hope Artest or other indiana players don't end up getting lawsuit...They are out indefinitely for doing something that anyone could have done the same as a HUMAN.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Now is that a concern of the Palace security or Jermaine O'Neal?</div> Palace security was obviously not sufficient last night which forced players to take this into their own hands in order to ensure their own safety. Rick Carlisle said he felt like he was fighting for his life and i'm sure all the players, especially the ones such as J. O'Neal and all the ones involved in the middle of it felt the same way.
It's the guy's fault. Nowhere does it state that you can walk on the court during a game. If he didn't, he wouldn't have gotten knocked the **** out. I mean even during a fight, you still can't walk on the court and ****. Go back to your seat, and next time if you wanna get your a** knocked out again, by front row tickets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Now is that a concern of the Palace security or Jermaine O'Neal?</div> It WAS the Palace security's concern, but obviously they didn't do their job at all. So JO stepped in and took care of business. Next question.
The fact that the guy actually went after Artest should be Exhibit A in demonstrating that he was drunk out of his mind. No one thinking clearly would make fists at that psycho.
the fan is actually thinking of suing artest when he was the one who threw the beer at ron? stupid. i know players shouldn't attack fans, but fans shouldn't attack players either. you can boo them or throw curse words at them, but once you attack them, you're already crossing the line. it's the fan's fault this time, and that fan should be banned from the nba.
^^Yeah, but the fan that threw the beer ISN`T the fan that Artest attacked right? BTW- Watching Good Morning America, they`ll talk to the fan today!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Need4Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post"> Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oD...ov=ap&type=lgns</div> I could imagine Artest on top of the guy and him sayin that
Great link Need4Sheed. That shows you not to do stuff you think you can get away with. The look on his face is priceless. I have the picture on my desktop.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting That NBA Girl:</div><div class="quote_post">lol okay, but that doesn't solve anything. Why on earth was his friend on the court? :thumbsdow</div> they had courtside seats, and they got toppled over by the brawl.. there was nowhere else to go
i have to thank Ron,JO and Sjax for teaching those idiotic fans a good lesson. big props to RO,JO and Sjax :thumbsup:
You know what, everyone keep saying the players are just human. Humans are capable of mistakes too, so why shouldn't they be punished for it? Don't get me wrong, I think Artest, Oneil, and Jackson should not be suspended that long, but it's annoying to just keep hearing people go <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They are out indefinitely for doing something that anyone could have done the same as a HUMAN.</div> I'm human too, so if I was in Ron's position and threw a punch at the guy, don't you think I should be punished? Still, in my opinion its the fan's fault since Artest was acting of out defense.
