How great would it be if the Bulls fans get to watch the Bulls be coached by MJ i mean Skiles would make a good asst coach in COLLEGE but i dont think he is ready for the NBA the Bulls are off to the worst start since 1968/69 season. Why not try to lure fans back into the Untied Center you know players are going to listen to the GREATEST basketball player ever to play. John Paxson needs to sit down with MJ and talk about another dynasty he can bring to the Bulls Do you think the Bulls should try to hire MJ as new head coach?
Jordan has stated numerous times that he would not like to go into coaching. Stop dreaming Bulls fans.
NO ABSOULTELY NOT!!! Go read the new Jordan book and learn all about the real Michael Jordan. Jordan will never be a coach and he can't coach. Regardless of the kind of leader he was on the court, he would never make a good coach. He doesn't know how to make good decsions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_greatest#23:</div><div class="quote_post">How great would it be if the Bulls fans get to watch the Bulls be coached by MJ i mean Skiles would make a good asst coach in COLLEGE but i dont think he is ready for the NBA the Bulls are off to the worst start since 1968/69 season. Why not try to lure fans back into the Untied Center you know players are going to listen to the GREATEST basketball player ever to play. John Paxson needs to sit down with MJ and talk about another dynasty he can bring to the Bulls Do you think the Bulls should try to hire MJ as new head coach?</div> Skiles isnt the problem. we just dont have the right players. you cant win games without experienced players. FIRE PAXTON!! Mike wouldnt be a great coach because hed expect the players to put in the hard work he did. and now adays we know thats not happening. Hes is too easily frustated by other players if his team is down his mind will be on putting on a jersey to hit the gamewinner, Not motivating his team to believing they can pull out a win.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Skiles isnt the problem. we just dont have the right players</div> I disagree. The Bulls have the right players but a horrible coaching system. Watching them this year is atrocious. There's no offensive scheme at all. It's just dribble dribble dribble until there is 3 seconds left, pass it to someone for a bad shot and that's about it. No one cuts or sets screens and it's just awful. Take this into consideration: Kirk Hinrich shoots better from 3 than from 2. It doesn't make sense. Skiles doesn't have a #1 option on the team and just slanders his players in the media. Perhaps if he learned how to coach it wouldn't happen that way. On defense, I have no idea what is going on. Back in highschool we played better defense. Offensive players just get into the lane for easy layups and there is no resemblence of any kinda of D. Skiles needs to go.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Skiles isnt the problem. we just dont have the right players. you cant win games without experienced players. FIRE PAXTON!! Mike wouldnt be a great coach because hed expect the players to put in the hard work he did. and now adays we know thats not happening. Hes is too easily frustated by other players if his team is down his mind will be on putting on a jersey to hit the gamewinner, Not motivating his team to believing they can pull out a win.</div> I think Jordan will be the best fit just because player respect him Indiana had a great coach in Larry Bird (which i think i a guiness) but players know what Jordan did for the NBA half of them watched him on TV i think player will respond better to a NBA Legend rather than the NBA's Six Man. The Bulls have the right piece they just cant talorate what the coach's are doing they are trying to show strict attitude rather than letting them show their skills on the court Jordan will bring out their talents and the players will play for him JORDAN SAID HE WAS 99.9% SURE THAT HE WASNT COMING BACK in 94''
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree. The Bulls have the right players but a horrible coaching system. Watching them this year is atrocious. There's no offensive scheme at all. It's just dribble dribble dribble until there is 3 seconds left, pass it to someone for a bad shot and that's about it. No one cuts or sets screens and it's just awful. Take this into consideration: Kirk Hinrich shoots better from 3 than from 2. It doesn't make sense. Skiles doesn't have a #1 option on the team and just slanders his players in the media. Perhaps if he learned how to coach it wouldn't happen that way. On defense, I have no idea what is going on. Back in highschool we played better defense. Offensive players just get into the lane for easy layups and there is no resemblence of any kinda of D. Skiles needs to go.</div> you said they don't have a number one option. You just agreed about what you disagreed about.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">you said they don't have a number one option. You just agreed about what you disagreed about.</div> No. It was said the Bulls don't have a #1 option. That being because Skiles never appointed one. If said that Eddy would be the focus of the offense then Eddy's the #1 option. That's obviously not true. Not having a set #1 option is not the same as not having the right players.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">The Bulls have the right players but a horrible coaching system. </div> How is Skiles the cause of these huge problems: 1) Horrible free throw shooting 2) Tons of turnovers 3) Lots of fouls/bad defense C'mon, that's all on the players. if we had made a couple free throws, we'd have a few more wins. and how is it Skiles' fault that players like Amare have dunked on us... hell, guards have been getting layups on our frontcourt D
People deal with it. Jordan isnt going to coach any team. Now getting back on firing Skiles. Are you kidding me? You cant blaim the coach for something that isnt his fault. Its all about the players. They have no spirit. So many turnovers. How is it possible??
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How is Skiles the cause of these huge problems: 1) Horrible free throw shooting</div> Not enough practice with the free throw line? Chicago shoots the least amount of free-throws in the league. Mostly because players aren't sure what to do on offense so they stand around and there is no penetration. Who's fault that there is no offensive scheme? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2) Tons of turnovers</div> Poor offensive schemes. There is no continuity in their play or consistency. Mostly because the players look confused on what they're supposed to do. You see Skiles just standing at the sidelines or screaming and nothing changes. If a coach loses his players then he might as well not be there. Case in point in New Jersey with Byronn Scott. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">3) Lots of fouls/bad defense</div> Players don't make team defense. The team has good defenders but play horrible defense. It doesn't make sense. A team like the Nets who has the 8th best defense do not have that many good defenders where as the Bulls have the second worst defense (.2 away from the Bobcats) but players like Kirk Hinrich, Loul Deng, Chris Duhon, and sometimes Tyson Chandler who are good defenders play horrible defense? I blame that on the coach for not teaching them where to be on defense. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">C'mon, that's all on the players. if we had made a couple free throws, we'd have a few more wins.</div> So few free throws are shot and they lose by a large margin so I doubt it for most of the games. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and how is it Skiles' fault that players like Amare have dunked on us... hell, guards have been getting layups on our frontcourt D </div> It's not all Skiles' fault but I wouldn't exempt him. When things are not going well you go to the leader first. Skiles is the leader and he's obviously not leading well. Either he goes or the players go. And it's alot easier to fire a coach than to get rid of the players.
Lets clear this up now. Michael Jordan has said many times he has no desire to coach in the NBA. He is currently living in Chicago every now and then leaving on some kind of promotion for his shoe label. He is currently sitting back on his shoe label to get money patiently waiting for bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf to retire so he can make an offer to own the team. As far as Skiles go he does not have a easy job, but he has recieved full support from the Bulls front office to do w/e he sees fit to this teams lineup to get them to win which means benching Chandler and/or Curry, and any other player. nextlevelgame I disagree with yuo about turnovers being the cause of poor offensive plays. It is the cause of our team being so young before the change in the lineup in inserting Davis into the starting rotation we had no one in the starting lineup over 30 years old. That will cause a couple of extra turnovers. Also the coach puts in a game plan for a team, but he can not excecute them for the players. No matter how long a coach works a player and tries to motivate him to improve its up to the player to imrpove. So normally when a coaching change is needed and would solve the problem I would be all for it, but a coach change at this point would not solve our problem. It would be like changing quarter backs when both QB's have broken arms it wont do much good.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> Poor offensive schemes. There is no continuity in their play or consistency. Mostly because the players look confused on what they're supposed to do. </div> What is it about the schemes that are poor? It's not like we run anything out of the ordinary. rest of the NBA runs our plays; difference is, they execute them. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> Players don't make team defense. The team has good defenders but play horrible defense. It doesn't make sense. </div> This I don't get. How can players not "make team defense"?? they are the ones that have to actually play it! When Curry gives up baseline, and gives up a dunk to a guard... how is that Skiles' fault? we get killed down low regularly.... haven't you noticed the layups we've given up? Eddy and Tyson are a pair of swinging doors down there. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> I blame that on the coach for not teaching them where to be on defense. </div> i don't get this either. it's not like you can stay in one place and automatically stop someone. if you're an NBA player, you should be able to guard a man. Several Bulls can't do this... and that's our problem. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> So few free throws are shot and they lose by a large margin so I doubt it for most of the games. </div> there has been at least one game where we had more field goals then the other team. and LOST. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> Skiles is the leader and he's obviously not leading well. Either he goes or the players go. And it's alot easier to fire a coach than to get rid of the players.</div> it is easier to fire the coach. and that's why people are so quick to jump on the coach. it makes them feel better, and it's this great way of thinking you're going to solve the team's problems. but, honestly, is Phil Jackson going to win with this team? Red Auerbach? No, because these players are LEARNING to play. Tyson and Eddy were incredibly raw coming out of HS... nothing like Kobe/KG/Amare... they were ready. my point is there are fundamental issues with these young Bulls... things that go beyond Skiles. why even judge Skiles when there are larger problems at issue?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What is it about the schemes that are poor? It's not like we run anything out of the ordinary. rest of the NBA runs our plays; difference is, they execute them.</div> You put the sole blame on the players for poor execution? I wouldn't. I'd place that heavily on the coach for not teaching them how to properly execute plays. Execution and things running smoothly is a responsibility for the coach to handle. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This I don't get. How can players not "make team defense"?? they are the ones that have to actually play it! When Curry gives up baseline, and gives up a dunk to a guard... how is that Skiles' fault? we get killed down low regularly.... haven't you noticed the layups we've given up? Eddy and Tyson are a pair of swinging doors down there. </div> Eddy Curry is not a great defender, true. Tyson Chandler has signs of being one and more often than not I see him being contained on the defense. He has the mentality of a great shot blocker and does come for weak side help. Problem is that no one properly told him how to avoid fouls. Taught being the key word here. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i don't get this either. it's not like you can stay in one place and automatically stop someone. if you're an NBA player, you should be able to guard a man. Several Bulls can't do this... and that's our problem.</div> Yes I agree, you should be, but why isn't it happening? The Bulls' defense with Cartwright last year was better than it is now. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">there has been at least one game where we had more field goals then the other team. and LOST.</div> So instead of being 1-9, the Bulls are 2-8. Still horrible. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">it is easier to fire the coach. and that's why people are so quick to jump on the coach. it makes them feel better, and it's this great way of thinking you're going to solve the team's problems.</div> It is. But honestly, I think Skiles has lost control of his players. Byronn Scott was a good coach for NJ but when he lost control then the Nets plummetted. The Bulls need to regroup and reform. A trade of either Curry and CHandler for a solid player could be called for, but I wouldn't stop there in trying to better things. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">but, honestly, is Phil Jackson going to win with this team? Red Auerbach? No, because these players are LEARNING to play. Tyson and Eddy were incredibly raw coming out of HS... nothing like Kobe/KG/Amare... they were ready.</div> Not asking to make this team a winning team but a progressive team. Bulls have stunk it up for awhile and there seems to be no progression or incline of status. Moreover, Dwight Howard was just as raw as Tyson and Eddy and he's doing a lot better than they have. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">my point is there are fundamental issues with these young Bulls... things that go beyond Skiles. why even judge Skiles when there are larger problems at issue?</div> One step at a time. Skiles going can help. Maybe next move is to trade either Tyson or Chandler, but with each step towards the right direction is needed.
My opinions on this whole Skiles debacle. Ok, here's the thing, the losing record is just as much Skiles' fault as it is the players. That's what it comes down to. There is not one person who can be singled out and blamed for this terrible start the Bulls have. Cause, seriously people, look at this thought. For the last 6 years now, the Bulls have been getting off to a bad start. Skiles has only been here since midway through last year. Now, we've had personnel and player changes since than, but it shows that it's not just the coach. Cause seemingly, whatever coach is brought it, they do terrible. The Bulls led Tim Floyd to one of the worst win percentages ever by a coach. They played so bad that they got him and Cartwright fired. And right now, they're off to one of the worst starts in franchise history. So, to single out the coach is wrong. It's everyones fault. In order to win, everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, from coaches, to starters, all the way down to the 12th man, needs to put in 110% to win. And quite frankly, the Bulls aren't. They're playing lazy. They're not executing, which is partial coach and partial player fault. They don't show the same heart throughout an entire game, which is why they blow leads. If they get a big one, they just sit on it and be satisfied instead of continuing to be the aggressor and getting the lead large enough to where it can't be blown. That's their problem. They stop playing the way they were playing that got them the lead. Again, that's partial player problem and partial coach problem. So, in my opinion, you can't single out Skiles as the problem, cause quite frankly, everyone is part of the problem. And just a thought, don't hire Jordan as the coach. It's not the answer to our problem. And aside from that, he's said time and again he won't coach, he just wants to own a team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> One step at a time. Skiles going can help. Maybe next move is to trade either Tyson or Chandler, but with each step towards the right direction is needed.</div> I think you meant trade Curry or Chandler, as it is kind of hard to trade a players first or last name .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Moreover, Dwight Howard was just as raw as Tyson and Eddy and he's doing a lot better than they have. </div> My friend saw Eddy Curry play in HS.... this kid could barely make it up and down the court.... he was obviously very effective against little people, but they would laugh (even then) at how clumsy he was. Tyson? He has no move to the hoop whatsoever. He can't hold onto the ball. How can you compare him to where Howard is at?? These aren't things Skiles can teach... the Twins just are not as good as Dwight Howard. Simple as that. How are you sure that Skiles is "teaching" the wrong things? how does Skiles' bad "teaching" explain the turnovers, foul trouble and bad defense. Can't we agree that these players just are not good enough to win? Consider this: if Skiles is to blame for Curry and Chandler's failures... then how do you explain that the Twins played under TWO other Bulls coaches too? they havent even been around Skiles that long.
Jordan wouldn't be able to handle coaching. He doesn't have the right mentality for it. He was the type of guy that would do anything for his team, and would play through anything in order to get a W. Jordan wouldn't be able to deal with his players not giving it the effort that he used to. Even Magic Johnson couldn't handle coaching because of that. Anyways, Jordan would never want to coach because he has nothing left to prove in that respect. Plus, it's not like he needs the money, either.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">Jordan wouldn't be able to handle coaching. He doesn't have the right mentality for it. He was the type of guy that would do anything for his team, and would play through anything in order to get a W. Jordan wouldn't be able to deal with his players not giving it the effort that he used to. Even Magic Johnson couldn't handle coaching because of that. Anyways, Jordan would never want to coach because he has nothing left to prove in that respect. Plus, it's not like he needs the money, either.</div> Yeah i remember when he owned washington I read a book that said he use to lock himself in his office, and not even be able to watch the games because of all the frustration he felt watching them lose. Jordan really is a guy who was a great player because he could get his team a win on the court, and if they lsot at least he new he was there and did everything he could as a coach, and GM he cant say the same because he is not playing the game on the court so he feels if they lose it is all his fault because he did not do everything possible in his mind.
