Trade T-Mac

Its obvious that the T-Mac experiment failed, just like the Steve Francis did. So who is next, These are the trade scenarios

Trade

Tracy McGrady for Mike Bibby and a second round draft pick
Tracy Mcgrady and Jim Jackson for Richard Hamilton
Tracy McGrady for Michael Redd


All of these trades would help Houston, and these guys will make Yao a superstar something Steve Francis and Tracy McGrady could do

 

Somebody's been sniffin a little too much glue...

 

No idea if this is sarcasm or not. But If we were to trade him at all, those deals would be so bad, it wouldn't be funny. Like Kobe 8 Ball said, what type of fan gives up like that? What has McGrady done wrong? Why were so many people predicting Champion rings this year? Exactly, it was all hope and hype. No reason to get all pesimistic on us. All of us are disappointed, but you take it in and move it on. I didn't predict a WCF berth, second round at BEST. Why trade him now? What is so wrong with him? What did Francis do wrong? I don't get these experiments. The team has played 13 games. 13. 13! And you expect us to be what? 13-0? You're always gonna lose those games, but look at it. We haven't been blown out. TOs have killed us in <u>FIVE</u> games. Think of that record. 11-2, as long as we didn't turn the ball over MORE THAN ONCE, within the last 6 minutes of the game. We're young, no reason to hurry. I don't see a need to rush the offence, or the game itself. No matter if we go 6-76, or 75-7, I'll still be a Rockets fan. And that's really what counts.

 

muwhaha. T and Yao haven't even played a quarter of the season and your giving up on them already. I think they need more role players, but they can do serious damage. I cant believe your sayin this....

 

Yao needs to get 25 shots a game , to become a star. And he isnt gettin that with T-Mac.

 

Why does Yao need 25? Isn't that a bit too much? I wouldn't trust Yao with that many possesions...Yao is turnover prone as shown in tonight's Sac Game.

 

We have the stars. We need the role players. Its that simple.

And what is going on with your trade suggestions? They are absolutely stupid. T-Mac is worth 2 good players. Why should we lost tmac AND JJ for Rip who isn't as good as T-Mac? You make no sense.

And another thing, Yao is the Rocket's FUTURE not the present. For the time being, T-Mac has to do what he has to do to keep us in the running. Yao is playing bad because he isn't ready for the pressure that JVG wants to applyo n him. Nothing to do with Tmac.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Trading T-Mac is not the solution, the Rockets need, has been the same since the season started, and that's a point guard. Charlie Ward and Tyrone Lue do not fit at all and are bench players at best. When Sura returns, he will be an upgrade, but he's more of scoring guard than a playmaker. The Rockets need a steady guard who can breakdown a defense and find the right angles to get Yao the ball in the post. Having a point guard to run the offense will also help limit the shots T-Mac takes. Right now T-Mac is the only playmaker on the court, and he has a shoot first mentality. Until the Rockets find a pointguard worthy enough to take that responsibility away from T-Mac, he's going to dominate the ball for better or worse of the team's success.

As for the trades mentioned above, a player like Rip Hamilton would be a perfect compliment to Yao, but he still needs a guard to find him off the screen.

Michael Redd is a free agent, and there would be no guarantee he re-signs.

Mike Bibby would be a nice fit, but it would take more than him and draft pick to pry T-Mac away.

If I were the Rockets I'd start figuring out what players and picks I could package for Jason Kidd.</div>you are so right about not trading him
T-mac got 25 pts & Yao had 29.
the real reason they lost tonight wasnt because of T-Mac, it was because they got next to nothing from the rest of the team... I dont see how trading T-mac is going to fix that.

let this team get together a bit before you start thinking of blowing it up....
get a PF that you can get some real production out of... get more from your bench 14 pts (which is what they gave tonight).. there are a lot of ways to make improvements rather than doing something like getting rid of someone that can give you 20pts+ once he gets his game goin...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">Its obvious that the T-Mac experiment failed, just like the Steve Francis did. </div>

Even if we don't get over 500 for the season, that doesn't mean much. The way our team is built right now, we're just not very good. Terrible rebounding team, and mediocre point guards. Bobby Sura might help a little, but we don't have a championship contender right now, and anyone who thinks differently is frankly delusional.

That said, the McGrady experiment should be treated as a long-term investment. We have a nucleus for what hopefully in years to come could become a great playoff team. Pieces are still missing, and in the offseason we'll need to address that.

And remember our record could easily be 9-4 right now, if McGrady didn't miss games and we didn't give away those games to Atlanta and New York.

 

after the allstar game, i think we should go for kidd

 

If Kidd is as unhappy as reports tell us, then its a possibility. Also, i think we have a real problem at PF. While our PG situation isn't all that goood, we can live with it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If Kidd is as unhappy as reports tell us, then its a possibility.</div>
Its pretty slim, with the Mavericks pushing pretty hard for him. Plus, getting Jason Kidd would kill our salary cap. I mean, that would mean there would be three incredibly expensive contracts, something that we can't have.
Those trades are a bit improbable too. JJ and T-mac for Rip Hamilton? T-mac's alone is probably over Rips. We would want way more than Mike Bibby and a draft pick for T-mac. Really, what has he been doing wrong? He doing pretty nice scoring and knows how to distribute the ball around. He's not that much of a ball hog really unless the whole team is ice cold.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If Kidd is as unhappy as reports tell us, then its a possibility.</div>
Its pretty slim, with the Mavericks pushing pretty hard for him. Plus, getting Jason Kidd would kill our salary cap. I mean, that would mean there would be three incredibly expensive contracts, something that we can't have.
Those trades are a bit improbable too. JJ and T-mac for Rip Hamilton? T-mac's alone is probably over Rips. We would want way more than Mike Bibby and a draft pick for T-mac. Really, what has he been doing wrong? He doing pretty nice scoring and knows how to distribute the ball around. He's not that much of a ball hog really unless the whole team is ice cold.
Second of all, why are you worrying about whether or not Yao becomes a star. Give patience, and he will. T-mac's a great compliment to Yao and allows him to develop with a great shooting guard, what more can you ask?
All we need to do is give time for chemistry to develop, so hold off all those trade/signing ideas until maybe the offseason?

 

HAHAHAHAHA! What the heck is this guy talking about! First of all, the rockets have played about 15 games and you are already coming to the decision that you need to trade McGrady! He is the best thing you got. And your trade suggestions are terrible! Rip for Tmac and Jim Jackson! HA, Richard Hamilton played well in the Finals but is nowhere near Tracy's level of talent. You are a fan that obviously needs to learn more about the game before making these types of comments. Go on NBA.com and look at the players averages that you mentioned and you will see why everyone is all over you about these lame trades. Then you said Yao Ming needs 25 shots to become a star. What did you expect T-Mac to do when he got to Houston? Pass the ball to Yao and shoot once or twice a game. T-Mac is a better player than Ming and deserves more shots than he does. The Rockets wouldn't be paying McGrady all that money if they just wanted him to pass the ball and jog down court. If Houston did trade T-Mac they would probably look to do a deal like Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker for Tracy McGrady. I am not saying the Spurs would do this but the Rockets need 2 role players (preferably SG and PG) if they want to succeed. Before you start making comments like the season is over, let the team play 20 games first.

 

Seriously, trading T-Mac is not an option right now. Les Alexander is obviously in love with T-Mac, giving him an extension that could have gotten us someone like Kobe Bryant. Therefore, it might be that Yao would be the one to go even if we wanted to rebuild.

Yao Ming does not need and want 25 shots a game. He is a very streaky guy and might not have 10/20 nights all the time. Sometimes, Yao would go 3/14, 5/18, 6/22, and games like that. Would we want him taking 25 shots each night if all he can make is 7? McGrady has shown that he is willing to give Yao the ball, but only if he's hot. When Yao has missed 7 shots in a row, there is no reason that T-Mac shouldn't try to take matters into his own hands.

 

Tmac is one of the top 2 talents in the league right now.

I think however, TMAC needs to change his game. In Orlando, he grew so accustomed to throwing up jump shots cause the rest of his team sucks. He needs to learn, in Houston, to get the ball to Yao first, and feed off him. He's still taking lots of bad jump shots with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Once TMAC can adjust his game, i think Rockets will start winning.