Are the Pistons gonna repeat?

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  1. Pistons 4 Sho

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    Will the Pistons repeat. And clearly the answer is, well im not really sure. Some people put yesterday loss against the Bobcats in their minds and might have come to a conclusion, or maybe the way they are getting handled by the Cavaliers is affecting their decision. But keep in mind Ben Wallace isnt there. i think without Ben definately they wont win a chmapionship but with him they're just too dominant. Defensively they're better with him. Offensively they're better with him, and they are a much bettter team at rebounding with him.
    What's your stand on this?
     
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    I find it hard to say at this point weather they will repeat or not. They havent exactly stormed out of the gates this season, and there are so many other talented teams coming up like Orlando and Miami now in the east. So I think they will have a hard time making it out of the east let alone repeating.
     
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    No. This whole Palace incident believe it or not might effect them. Also I really don't think Dumars formula is a lock for 1+ seasons. The Knicks will in the championship this year!!!






    I'm just kidding. But, the championship is up for grabs now. Who knows they might get it! [​IMG]
     
  4. mike18946

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    It's impossible to tell at this stage, Spurs started out poor the last two seasons and won the championship two years ago and were a Derek Fisher shot away from contending for a place in the finals last year. Pistons started 16-13 last year and won the title, It's way too early to say but the Pistons look like a joke right now and are embarrassing themselves.
     
  5. Miami's Finest

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    To early to tell. Remember Detroit is a playoff team. If we were to judge by play or by record then Seattle is looking like the team to go all the way.
     
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    Well you cant make this kind of prediction this early in the season.But one thing I have noticed is the Pistons look a lot different without Ben Wallace.They lost to the Bobcats without him once, and took the Cats to double OT to beat them also.Imagine if Wallace suffered a major injury, this team would have a chance at falling off.
     
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    It's early yet, I said before the season started they'd probably struggle for the first month or so, and it looks like I was right... if you know anything about the Pistons tho, you know they play best after everybody writes them off, and it looks like its happening now, I'm sure they will drop right out of top 10 on the Power Rankings.

    Personally I'd like to see Coleman get traded for another guard, but I think Dumars will be more patient.
     
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    I still think they'll repeat. I mean all championship teams start off slow, and we have had alot of adversity come our way, with LB and Ben gone for a good period of time, Chauncey had a little ankle injury, the palace brawl, and new additions(bench), who are still trying to gel on the court, and lastly training camp was not used the way it should've been, we spent ALL of training camp trying to set the rotation, instead of gearing up for the season. And we aren't playing with some effort and intensity. As much as we miss Ben, we can still win games without him, just as long as we play with a purpose, you see, we beat MIA, and Houston without Ben, but with effort. And the games that we have lost, have been blowouts without Ben, but you see how we turn it on and cut 20 point deficits to 5 in a heart beat? That shows you how good we are, once we learn that we can't turn it on whenever we want... well... then watch out for the D!
     
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    sorry don't see it happening
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">sorry don't see it happening</div>

    What a well thought out response, we are so glad to have your amazing in sight on this board [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">What a well thought out response, we are so glad to have your amazing in sight on this board [​IMG]</div>
    Ok, I will explain, I do not think the Pistons will win because of the fact they won on defense, teamwork, and hardwork and not by having one "superstar" lead tham which, after MJ was what dominated the League, I.E. Shaq/Kobe. Now when the Lakers Vs. Piston finals happened everyone said the Lakers cuz they had Shaq/Kobe and all the rest of the fellas and pushed Pistons away because nobody has won a championship in a long time using what they had which was the teamwork/defense and such. now that has "proven to win games" teams are starting to play there kind of game which makes it kind of hard because now teams get more explosure to that kind of play and can play agaisnt the pistons and know how to win. so thats my explanation, hope It was inciteful enough [​IMG]
     
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    Not really, teams are trying to "play the right way" but only one other team is as great defensively and thats the Spurs. Of course the Pistons defensively stats aren't great now but that shouldn't last too long. They will get back to normal Pistons basketball soon enough. Most teams in this league's game plan to get get out on the break and score alot of points but don't really defend that well. With the Pacers losing Artest It gives the Pistons a better chance to repeat but in all honestly If any team that will beat the Pistons It is the Spurs, providing the Spurs role players knock down open shots. If Mcdyess stays heathly then the chance of repeating are quite high.
     
  13. Moo2K4

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    I don't think you can count them out yet. Big Ben will be coming back soon, and I'd expect them to play better when that happens. Beyond that, it's still VERY EARLY in the season. You can't find a teams identity just 14 games into the season....unless you're the Hornets or the Bulls....but those are far different teams. I don't think they are to be counted out though. They have essentially the same team they had last year, except they have added forward depth with McDyess. So, to me, they can't be counted out yet. Everyone is allowed to get off to a slow start. Counting them out is like counting out the Yankees this past year when they had a rough start to the year....you can't do it.
     
  14. detroit223

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    ^^True. And the big thing I want everyone to realize is that alot of championship teams start off slow, because of lack of effort, and even complacency. Last season we started off 16-13 and we went on to win the title, now we have more adversity coming our way, and I like the way we've been handling it, given the circumstances we've been dealt. One more thing, is that we have beaten good teams without BigBen. We beat Miami, and blewout Houston, without Ben, so that just shows you the depth we have and how good we are. And we've lost to mediocore teams, because of the lack of effort, as much better we are with Ben, it's because it's a lack of effort, but the way we come back from 20-point deficits, in like 2 minutes just shows you the potential of this team, and shows how dangerous we are, because we've won and have given ourselves a chance to win wihtout Ben.
     
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    too early to tell. i'm reserving all judgement until the team passes the All-Star break.

    McDyess is just starting to find his groove. Barring any injury (*crosses fingers*), Dumars is going to look like a genius, taking a chance on him.

    Delfino hasn't even gotten a chance to come to his own yet. Delfino shows flashes every night. He and Dice are and awesome tandem to bring off the bench.

    Once the team plays a large chunk of games with everyone (don't forget Ben!), we'll see what they're truly capable of.
     
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    i dont think they'll do it. Like i've said before, the Pistons thrived has the underdog...but people are all thinking their a lock for top 2 teams in the east and a trip to the conference finals. I think they'll struggle.....maybe grab home court with the 4 spot but i see it going Miami, Cleveland, Orlando, Detroit. After that i think it'll be Indiana, Washington, Toronto, New York. 1-5 i'm almost sure of. 6-8 could go either way..but those are the teams i see making the playoffs.
    I see the Spurs winning it. Dont be surprised to see a teams like Cleveland and Orlando in the conferance finals people.
     
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    ^ BTW those are teams based on games won...not their seed
     
  18. detroit223

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    We're better than those teams, so I think you are waaay off on your predictions, but you're entitled to your own opinion, I just disagree. I see us going to the finals. Like I said we're better than a couple of those teams that you mentioned, and the teams like MIA, who can cause alittle bit of trouble for us, can't beat us. We we're able to beat them without BigBen, and imagine how good we'll do without him. 2morrow we play SanAntonio, and I think SA and Det are going to the finals so this can be a little finals preview. But I'm not sure, if we're completely back 2 ourselves again, because we've only had one Detroit B-Ball game. So we'll see. But about the finals, I think we can beat the Spurs. Sheed is very underrated, no doubt about that, and the student ain't ready school the teacher. FYI Poppovich learned from LB. But again these are just my predictions, it's still way to early to tell.
     
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    The 2nd title is always tougher to get than the first one. It's gonna take even more effort and hard D from the pistons to repeat. I'm not saying it's impossible but I think some of the West teams will beat the pistons in 7 game series (Spurs & Twolves and maybe Mavs)...
     
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    Hey, I'm not saying ain't nobody going to beat us, I'm saying that we can repeat, and that I believe we will. Did you see the game where we played the T-Wolves? We really outplayed them, and gave KG a tough, tough night. LB knows how to handle star players, that's why we were able to beat Houston, to get us out of our slump, that's why we were able to beat LA for the championship, that's why we were able to beat Shaq and MIA without BigBen, and that's why we were able to beat KG, and that's why we were able to beat SanAntonio last season as part of our 13-game win streak even before we got Sheed. As for SanAntonio for this season? We'll see how it goes 2morrow night on ESPN.
     

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