Hey guys, I don't know about you but Odom is not playing up to what he needs to, to win games against big teams, he has about 2 maybe 3 20 point games but we need him to come out and do a 20 ppg with the 10 rebounds. Odom in the game last night verse the Kings missed about 3 open lay ups. He didn't play good lets face it and this year he is not playing like he should be and we expected him to play at. I for one am pissed because he was supposed to be the number 2 option yet, I don't see that. Its thirteen games this season and we have not seen the consistant superstar showing me need him to give. I don't know about you he has been a disapointment to me and you know hopefully I am wrong about him and he starts giving the 20/10/5 performance we need! Well what do you guys think, is anybody thinking what I am thinking?!?
Odom is having a tough adjustment to the West again. It's really hard when you're a PF because you're going up against guys like C-Webb and Amare. I think he will have a spark around the 25th game.
I think it is more because many times he is being forgotten on this teams offense. I remember when they played Orlando he was physically dominating Howard in the first half then Kobe went off, and just started shooting constantly completely forgetting about Odom. I do not think it is so much him having to adjust to the west again because he was only out of the western conference for a season, and even then he still played western conference teams, and forwards like JO several times including playoffs. Kobe needs to find a way to use Odom more for them to be successful.
I never thought Odom was that good to begin with. He was playing in an Eastern conference that was lacking good big men. Therefore he was able to show off scoring and such. Now hes playing some competition and his numbers have dropped.I really didnt expect anything less
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KleinBaller08:</div><div class="quote_post">I never thought Odom was that good to begin with. He was playing in an Eastern conference that was lacking good big men. Therefore he was able to show off scoring and such. Now hes playing some competition and his numbers have dropped.I really didnt expect anything less</div> See I do not buy the whole method that if you play in the eastern conference your average will be higher. Jermaine Oneal was doing a interview last year where he said a lot of people say he does well only because of the lack of good big men in the east when actually if you do your research you would know he averaged only 19 points against the east last year yet 21 against the west. I think it is more because in Miami he was the main option with Wade not coming into his own yet, and Eddie Jones on the drop of his career not demanding many shots. Now he has to work on an offense where he is not the primary scorer, and he is not doing well with that.
The Heat of last year used a lot of isolation play straight away from the basket from 18'+. It gave Wade and Odom the floor space to create shots or open perimeter shots for teammates. Very simple basketball. Draw the double team. Kickout. Shoot. The baseline cuts off the creativity. Odom's not quick like Bryant who can beat his man baseline pretty much regardless of defensive position.
I dont know, maybe he isnt completely adjusted to this offense yet, but I do not like it. He needs to step up sooner or later, hopefully sooner. We would of won last night if he would of made his 3 easy layups...right now I would rather have Caron as our second option..I hope he gets his game on soon.
we need a second option on the team, no one has been concistent, i hope someone else but kobe steps up, and i hope its odom.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe needs to find a way to use Odom more for them to be successful.</div> If you would have watched last nights game... you would see that Kobe does try to use Odom. The guy shot 5-15, regardless of how much Kobe passed to him. Guys, don't worry. He'll start doing better. The guy is playing with Kobe Bryant, he'll have no choice but to use his winning spirit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">if you do your research you would know he averaged only 19 points against the east last year yet 21 against the west.</div> For one thats Jermaine Oneal, totally different from Lamar Odom, I dont doubt that Oneal is good. Also when you play 4 games against a team you have a better chance of having a bad game, but when you only play a team twice you have less of a chance, as u east does with west.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KleinBaller08:</div><div class="quote_post">For one thats Jermaine Oneal, totally different from Lamar Odom, I dont doubt that Oneal is good. Also when you play 4 games against a team you have a better chance of having a bad game, but when you only play a team twice you have less of a chance, as u east does with west.</div> I was not comparing Oneal to Odom at all only that someone had stated that maybe he was having trouble adjusting to the western play after playing one year in the east. I was stating that they still see these guys every year, and in Odoms case he really didnt get a chance to forget how they play because he was only in the east one season before returning to the western conference.
Odom been getting looks, he is just not converting. But he has been pulling down rebounds. It was mentioned in yesterdays game against SacTown that the Lakers front line is averaging just 1 point less and 3 rebounds less than last years trio of Shaq, Malone, and George. That tells you that our starters are doing what needs to be done.
I'll just say that because one player isn't performing well it doesn't mean they should be to blame their team's failures. This is a team game and there are 4 other players on the court. As for getting Odom involved, maybe he just needs to have some easier plays ran for him. LBJ gets his team a lot of easy pts just off simple plays and a good pass. It works for Eddie Jones BTW trenchteam, I hear ya on the sig issue. Some mod edited mine because it was off by 15px. I had that sig forever and didn't even notice it until just the other day when it was edited. It's funny because the image sigs are limited but some members have huge sigs in which they put in a paragraph worth of quotes and their favorite teams records.
I totally agree with the adjusment issue. Just give him time. Its the West and he isn't as strong or as built as the rest of the PF's. He should play what he was made for; the SF position and have Cook play in his stead in the PF. Matchups there for him would make him more effective in terms of one on one on both ends of the floor. Although they'd still probably attempt to put the likes of PFs regardless of that.
according to the LA Times, Odom sat out most of the practice yesterday due to swelling in his left knee...could be part of his production problem
