I was just wondering if you guys feel that Brand's time as a Clipper is almost up? He is the highest paid Clipper in Clipper history and he hasnt brought them a winning season. Do you think Sterling will ship him out? I think the team is moving more towards Livingston/Wilcox/Maggette than they are towards Brand. Is this just my personal opinion, or does anyone else feel Brand's time is almost up?
I feel the offensive game plan is moving away from Brand. I have been feeling for a while now that this really looks to be to be more Maggette's team then Brand's. Pretty soon this team will have two big names besides brand when livingston developes, and Brand will be lost in the mix a little imo.
I have alot of love for brand. but a move might be the best for him. I think he'll do well playin for the Lakers.
I would of loved him in a Laker uni, over the summer there was something circulating that ship Shaq to the other L.A. team for Brand, Jaric, and a few others..but I heard Shaq refused to play there. Brand is the most underrated player in the L IMO and I would be willing to ship anyone except Kobe for him as long as it isnt to ridiculous. But I doubt that happens, I could see him ending up somewhere on the East coast. I think this is his last year with the Clippers as they look to be building around Maggette, which is not a bad thing.
I think the lossing just got to him. What's the use when you gotta go up against the best forwards in the league. The Clippers should consider a trade definitely and make this Maggette, Simmons and Wilcox's team. Kaman should be healthy soon. But then that sux about Livingston. I watch this team all the time (being from Long Beach) and i hate it when this team just looks horrible. You guys may not like this but i think if you can pry Chris Bosh away from Toronto for the Brand, he would make you guys an actual Western Conference team. Next Year?
No, Sterling seems to be changing slightly in terms of constantly getting rid of players, I don't think Brand goes anywhere. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Pure Skillz":</div><div class="quote_post">I feel the offensive game plan is moving away from Brand. I have been feeling for a while now that this really looks to be to be more Maggette's team then Brand's. Pretty soon this team will have two big names besides brand when livingston developes, and Brand will be lost in the mix a little imo.</div> About the offensive plan, one of the problems this season is more that Brand hasn't been hitting his free throws and getting O-Boards which give him more FT attempts, rather than he's not getting his shots. Last time I checked he was averaging the same amount of shots per game as last season, just getting less offensive boards which also equal less FT attempts. Also the team has been playing great team ball and moving the ball, that's why they're winning. Lastly he also has an injury to his right hand which has been bothering him, and it was a little evident last game. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I watch this team all the time (being from Long Beach) and i hate it when this team just looks horrible. You guys may not like this but i think if you can pry Chris Bosh away from Toronto for the Brand, he would make you guys an actual Western Conference team. Next Year?</div> This is just a joke, Bosh isn't even close to Brand's level yet offensively or defensively, Bosh won't make them an actual anything. Also the team looks horrible? The best passing team in the league, and leading the league in assists, while also being high up there in FG%, maybe you don't watch the games well, but they play ball the way it should be played.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This is just a joke, Bosh isn't even close to Brand's level yet offensively or defensively</div> You've made my argument much eaiser with this "yet" remark. No shyte sherlock. Livingston, Maggette, Simmons and Wilcox are all guys that play great when in the transition game, Brand just doesnt move the way everyone else does. When Livingston takes over that PG position (and my trade offer goes thru) he would have field days with Bosh, CMag, Bobby, Wilcox, even Moore along with Jaric. R U seriously saying that this run n' gun offense wouldn't give anybody problems??? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">maybe you don't watch the games well, but they play ball the way it should be played.</div> I've been watching this team and when i say their playing horrible i mean their losing to teams like the Lakers. It's just inconsistant the way the Clippers play so fine keep Brand and stay out of the playoffs and WATCH the big boys play.
Well let me tell why it wouldn't work, the team is already one of the worst in the league in rebounding because Brand's rebounding numbers are down a little, and Kaman has been out. Wilcox is playing center, and he's not that good a rebounder for a PF. I'm a big Raptor fan, their my #1 team, but personally, I don't think Bosh will ever reach the level of Brand defensively and on the glass, his rebounding has stayed the same this year after getting more minutes, buliking up, moving to PF, and having the taem take more shots which equal more rebound oppurtunities. Bosh is only averaging 7.4 RPG in 36 minutes, and is also small, and not a capable center himself. Brand is the teams rebounder, shot blocker, and enforcer inside, without him they definately wouldn't be able to compete in the West with Bosh and Wilcox at PF and C who can't compare to him defeinsively or on the boards. Also people seem to have a misconception that he can't run the floor, he's not Stromile Swift, but Brand is capable of running the floor, he's been doing it with the team for the past few years he didn't suddenly forget. Wilcox has been great offensively for the most part, but the team has also struggled on the glass because of him. Also the team is 7-6 right now, not too bad.
I think that Brand leaving might be better for Brand himself but it would not be better for the Clips. It would be better for him because,well, he gets to leave the Clippers... I have been angry at so many moves that the Clips have done and getting rid of Brand would just be another one of those moves. He is one of the best power forward's in the league and any team would love having him on their squad. The Clips have the talent, now they just need to keep that talent!
og15... OOOHHH... your a Raptors fan, well i wouldnt want to give him up either, but i get your argument, but my lineup was a little more like PG - Livingston SG - Maggette SF - Bosh PF - Wilcox CC - Kaman Run a 2-3 zone on D and break on every play available.
Yea the problem is Bosh is already stuggling with his handles going one on one agaisnt PF's, we were also thinking of him playing some SF, but he's not capable, and it will just slow his development. Also running a 2-3 zone all the time would be kinda bad would'nt it?
arguements aside, if brand wants to move, i suggest an eastern conference team. this would definately help brand a lot
man the rockets could really use a guy like Brand. The rockets cant get any rebounds. But I dont think the Rockets have the players to trade for him.
If I were Elton Brand, I would be happy ton be traded.Brand has not provided the Clippers with a wining season because he doesnt fit the job discription as a franchise player. Brand can produce but he doesnt seem like a leader, and if you want your team to be sucessful you have to have a leader, the Clips have very good young player but they arent good enough as a team to win. Once Elton Brand realizes that the team isnt going anywhere I doubt he will resign after his contract ends.So if I were the Clippers, trading him while he is yours and vaulble would be the smart thing to do.
Too many people have this blame it on Brand thing going on, please, it is definately not Brand's fault for the losing, please do some reasearch on the injuries and team situation and realize why the team actually lost, the team was 16-18 last season with their starting lineup playing, not even when they were healthy, ironically all those times Chris Wilcox their only factor off the bench in addition to Simmons last season was playing too . Anyways, if you think it's because he hasn't been a leader or any garbage like that, you're very misinformed. Brand is actually a good leader, he's a vocal guy on the court, and also leads by example with the way he plays, he's one of the only star players you'll see scrapping it out and battling on the floor. Also talking about leadership, thier are hardly an franchise players you'd really call "leaders", their's KG, Kidd, Shaq, Duncan, and some others, but Pierce isn't a leader, Kobe isn't a leader, Tmac isn't a leader, Yao isn't a leader, Iverson can will the team to wins, but isn't a leader like the others, Carter isn't a leader, many times the leader is not even the franchise player, like in Orlando when they were winning, it was Darrell Armstrong. Silky, Brand just signed his contract recently, it's not ending anytime soon, the Clippers have good young players this season because they're playing good team ball, but before the season all anyone would say is, the team is Brand and Maggette and then no one else.
Why should Brand leave? The team is young, so they are only going to get better. A few people have said it for me, the team has more people who can play offensively, so Brand is not getting as much shots. I don?t think that is a problem because the team is playing great right now: 10-6. I think taking fewer shots will make him better in the long run because you can see he has been working harder on his D, which has stepped up since last season. I think if you ask any player on that team who the leader is they would say brand. He looks happy too. If it is not his choice thats another discussion..
Statistically, Elton Brand is the best player on that team. The Clippers are gonna have a lot of success when they learn to play as a team. They have some good pieces around Elton Brand and Maggette but if they get rid of Elton they're not win for a long time and will probably end up trading the team like they always do with their other teams.
i don't think that they will trade brand because he is the best player on the team and the only on ewho can match his talent is maggete so if u build the team around those two u will probably get some wins
/ yup, the Clips would be nothing without Brand and CMag........stupid move if they let him go. He'z the icon of the team. No disrespect to the others like Bobby, Wilcox, and etc. who are also valuable.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">I was just wondering if you guys feel that Brand's time as a Clipper is almost up? He is the highest paid Clipper in Clipper history and he hasnt brought them a winning season. Do you think Sterling will ship him out? I think the team is moving more towards Livingston/Wilcox/Maggette than they are towards Brand. Is this just my personal opinion, or does anyone else feel Brand's time is almost up?</div> And you don't think this season isn't considered a winning season??? <font color="Red"><font size="1"> Edited -NMG</font></font>
