Let it be known, I'm a Cavaliers fan, a BIG TIME LeBron fan, and all that stuff. I watched the "rivalry" between the two all last season and really grew to like Carmelo for a bit, but then even in the midst of the season I started to feel he was losing his mind. Look, I don't want to kick the guy while he's down, which apparently he is now even physically, but I'm writing to the Nugget board here for several reasons: the KEY reason being that I thought the league and the corporation that the league itself IS, was unfair towards Carmelo in setting him up to be LeBron's rival. It really wasn't fair. Melo was set-up in a losing situation, and I'm not talking about performance on the court or statistics. He's been pidgeon-holed into being this one and only competition to the league's fastest rising star both on AND off the court. Trying to rip LeBron away from this topic is pointless, because the spectre of LeBron has as much to do with the pressures on Carmelo as anything else. Let's go back and remember a few things: 1) What was it, three weeks before the end of the year, Carmelo decides it best to remain on the bench after Andre Miller (whom I feel was the absolute UNSUNG hero of that Nugget team, along with Boykins AND Camby) questioned his shot selection. I mean, if that's not "punkish", what is? 2) After he did it he said "I'm just upset that I threw away the ROY..."... and that was it for me, personally. The only way he "threw away the ROY" was because his name wasn't LeBron James- but I digress. So he does something punkish, then SAYS something punkish in regret over first punkish act. 3) That would have been ok, and everything would have chilled if it stayed there, but then when playoff time came around and while everyone and their mother were heaping oodles of praise on Carmelo for "SINGLE-HANDEDLY TAKING HIS MISERABLE TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS"- Melo vanished. POOF. Gone. First round speedy exit. Melo played so poorly it was as if he'd decided that he had already accomplished his main goal- to do something LeBron HADN'T, then just STOPPED PLAYING. I mean, didn't any Denver fans realize that was what happened? I'm certain I wasn't the ONLY one that saw it... Odd... and I would have thought all that talk about Melo dragging his team to the playoffs then leaving them at the door to rott would start to sink in as something that may be evident of a larger issue- silence. Season ends, Melo finishes second in the ROY... and the hell began. At first he was left off the Olympic squad, but as LeBron made mention in a televised interview between he, Melo, Magic, and Larry Bird- he wanted Melo on the team. Magic told LeBron to talk to the coaches of the team to "Get his boy on". LeBron does it, Melo now part of Olympic team. 4) In truth, I don't think Melo was all that kean to play on the team in the first place. I'd bet dimes to dollars however that he felt "obligated" in order to somehow keep up with LeBron- to have that media sun shine on him, or he'd lose a step in this odd battle between he and LeBron. You can tell from the way he played and ESPECIALLY the way he ACTED that he didn't want to be there- that he wasn't in control of his own life and was 'forced' to do this. That's when the wheels REALLY started to come off, and why it's become so clear to me that Melo was really feeling the heat of things. See, I don't believe that the friendly Carmelo that so many want to paint him as ever really existed. I believe what you're seeing NOW, and the issues that are going ON now, are the real Carmelo. I don't think he's "changed" at all- because the image of who Carmelo was last year was handed to us by the league- by the handlers of Carmelo's career and by his sponsors. The expectations of Carmelo were to handle himself "like LeBron" in front of all the money and distractions that come along with such a meteoric rise to fame. Melo isn't LeBron, and Melo's letting everyone know, whether consciously or not. All you have to do is look at these ridiculous Nike ads out now with that guy doing his pseudo-Mars Blackmon immitation calling Carmelo, of all things: "The Shepherd King"... I mean SERIOUSLY. What is THAT??? Why don't they just come out and say that they WANT him to be seen as "The Chosen One"... the freakin' SHEPHERD KING? THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH CARMELO ANTHONY. For an entire YEAR this guy has been pushed into and marketed as something he simply is not, and he's revolting. That's why I don't think it's fair at all and was NEVER fair to continually push Melo's rivalry with LeBron James. Carmelo is a great basketball player, and I agree that he rightfully gave LeBron a great run for the ROY- but he is NOT LeBron James and personally... I think it's plain to see that he's just plain sick of trying to be one. He's twenty years old, has had a hell of a start to what can be an incredible NBA career, and he can recover from this in time and get his head on straight. BUT, as long as everyone and their mother's uncle insist on comparing him to James, and particularly the kind of individual that James IS- Melo will suffer from it on all levels. The most of which will be his development as a young man. We can argue about their on-the-court stats or the impact that they have on their teams all we want, but what pisses me off is the simple fact that a young man is hurting right now in the face of being shoe-horned into a role he does not want, a situation that he cannot handle simply out of youth, and no one in the world is going to sympathize with a multi-millionaire who has been given everything in his life yet seems to want none of. Phew. There, I said it. Here's to hoping that ankle gets better for Thursday... when his old pal comes to town... On National TV... Chip
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1) What was it, three weeks before the end of the year, Carmelo decides it best to remain on the bench after Andre Miller (whom I feel was the absolute UNSUNG hero of that Nugget team, along with Boykins AND Camby) questioned his shot selection. I mean, if that's not "punkish", what is?</div> I agree he was being totally childish their, but he did have a bigger part in taking Denver to the playoffs than any of those 3 guys, even though they were big parts. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2) After he did it he said "I'm just upset that I threw away the ROY..."... and that was it for me, personally. The only way he "threw away the ROY" was because his name wasn't LeBron James- but I digress. So he does something punkish, then SAYS something punkish in regret over first punkish act.</div> What the hell? If anything, Melo was the better player last year. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">3) That would have been ok, and everything would have chilled if it stayed there, but then when playoff time came around and while everyone and their mother were heaping oodles of praise on Carmelo for "SINGLE-HANDEDLY TAKING HIS MISERABLE TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS"- Melo vanished. POOF. Gone. First round speedy exit. Melo played so poorly it was as if he'd decided that he had already accomplished his main goal- to do something LeBron HADN'T, then just STOPPED PLAYING. I mean, didn't any Denver fans realize that was what happened? I'm certain I wasn't the ONLY one that saw it...</div> Who said Melo SINGLE HANDEDLY took the Nuggets to the playoffs? I don't know who you talked basketball with, but thankfully for you, we have a lot of quality poster's here. In the playoffs, he was being guarded by one of the best (underrated) defender's in the league. Hassell just gave him no room at all. I mean, it wasn't like Denver was a high seed or anything, they were the 8th seed going against the best team in the West in Minnesota. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Phew. There, I said it. Here's to hoping that ankle gets better for Thursday... when his old pal comes to town... On National TV... Chip</div> Same here.
omg. i am sick of these threads. We all know Meloisnt an angel anymore but theres no point in making these threads over and over again. if you want to discuss this go to one of the other 5 threads on Melo. And thank you Bobcats for having Melos back on this one. I feel the same way.
Why is everybody trying to single handly trying to tarnish this man. Its really starting to annoy me. Every other thread is a thread saying what he did to mess up. BIG DEAL he made a few mistakes. LEAVE HIM ALONE. And to the little comment that he "single handly took the nuggets to the playoffs" the nuggets werent that misreble.. you forgot the name Andre Miller, Nene, Marcus Camby etc.. now im not saying he is a bad player but the team wasnt exacly misrable. and I agree with boogie man, if you want to bash him go find one of the other "Melo bashing threads" because this is really getting annoying next thing we know there will be a thread title "Melo caught not wiping after he uses the restroom" some people cease to amaze me...
^ I ain't a Nugget fan or anything, but when people try to bring the kid down every other day, it gets annoying, and sad really.
Well Melo has been going threw some tough times, but theire is no need to make continuos threads bashing him.He has done some pretty stupid stuff but so have many other players in this leauge. I think I remeber hearing about the incident when Melo didnt want to come off the bench.I also read an article saying how Jordan contacted him about it and told him how dumb it was, but he also told him Scottie Pippen did the same thing. His trouble with the authorites/crime have been explained also, the weed ws not his, he passed several drug test proving that there is no way he could have been smoking pot.Someone spit in his girls face, that caused a fight, but fellas I want you to ask your girl what she expects you to do if someone spits a drink into her face. But he has done some childish stuff like wearing a political suggestion on his shirt when he didnt even vote.This all comes with maturing and its just taking Carmelo longer to do so. He is in a slump and his production has gone down some, and I'm not sure what his medical staus is (sprained his ankle in last game), but the season is young and with MJ guiding him, I beleive he will go the right way not only this season but for the rest of his career.
i agree with bobcats, IMO carmelo deserved the roy over lebron last year coz he just played better.the nba should have put them as co-roy instead of awarding it to lebron.the guy is no angel coz he is just 20 yrs old and he just aint mature enough.i hope he matures yrs frm now.im also looking forward to that cavs vs nuggets game.hehe hope carmelo can play. :mrgreen:
really chip isnt trying to bring melo down, he is saying the LEAGUE is the cause of carmelo's problems. and i feel chip's argument makes lots of sense. HOWEVER, i disagree with the fact that melo is being a punk a**. he is just not ready to step into the image the league and the fans perceived him to be.
Look, I read a bunch of those other Melo threads that were getting on the guy- THAT was not my point. My point is that Melo was put into a bad situation from the get-go. I have more sympathy for him than others who may just be around to cut him down. I simply wanted to share my thoughts of why he may be acting out- breaking the mold that was cast for him by the NBA and corporation that it is. Not here to hate, but to pose a theory as to why this has been happening. My whole point was simply that I don't think it's fair, at all, to constantly compare him to LeBron James- and that I think he's displaying how sick he is of being compared to him as well. Now if anyone wants to debate who had the better team last year around them, or who's doing what this year, that's cool. Just restating my point that I feel and have felt that he was put in an impossible situation, and dude don't want it anymore. Peace Chip
OK if you want to debate who had the better year last year i will. It was simply Melo. He took his team to the playoffs,reegnigted a falling franchise and even averaged more points than "king" james. This year i'd give it to LeBron. Everytime i see him hes pulling off an amazing dunk or scoring in the 40's.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">Look, I don't want to kick the guy while he's down, which apparently he is now even physically, but I'm writing to the Nugget board here for several reasons: the KEY reason being that I thought the league and the corporation that the league itself IS, was unfair towards Carmelo in setting him up to be LeBron's rival. It really wasn't fair. Melo was set-up in a losing situation, and I'm not talking about performance on the court or statistics. He's been pidgeon-holed into being this one and only competition to the league's fastest rising star both on AND off the court. Trying to rip LeBron away from this topic is pointless, because the spectre of LeBron has as much to do with the pressures on Carmelo as anything else.</div> First of all, this is one hell of a long Melo-bashing thread. You said it's unfair to compare him to LeBron then it's the same you who insisted LeBron has gotta be mentioned here. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post"> Let's go back and remember a few things: 1) What was it, three weeks before the end of the year, Carmelo decides it best to remain on the bench after Andre Miller (whom I feel was the absolute UNSUNG hero of that Nugget team, along with Boykins AND Camby) questioned his shot selection. I mean, if that's not "punkish", what is? 2) After he did it he said "I'm just upset that I threw away the ROY..."... and that was it for me, personally. The only way he "threw away the ROY" was because his name wasn't LeBron James- but I digress. So he does something punkish, then SAYS something punkish in regret over first punkish act.</div> He had every reason to believe he's gonna win ROY since his team record was far improved from the previous season as compared to LeBron. Their first years, they're having careers that were as good, if Melo's not better. This season, no question LeBron is playing much better than Melo although I won't be surprised if Melo catches up in the mid-season. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">3) That would have been ok, and everything would have chilled if it stayed there, but then when playoff time came around and while everyone and their mother were heaping oodles of praise on Carmelo for "SINGLE-HANDEDLY TAKING HIS MISERABLE TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS"- Melo vanished. POOF. Gone. First round speedy exit. Melo played so poorly it was as if he'd decided that he had already accomplished his main goal- to do something LeBron HADN'T, then just STOPPED PLAYING. I mean, didn't any Denver fans realize that was what happened? I'm certain I wasn't the ONLY one that saw it... Odd... and I would have thought all that talk about Melo dragging his team to the playoffs then leaving them at the door to rott would start to sink in as something that may be evident of a larger issue- silence.</div> As someone in this thread mentioned, he was guarded by one of the best defensive players in the L, Trenton Hassell. Plus, it was his first experience in the playoffs... plus, it was his rookie year... plus, he was barely 20 years old. If you remember Vince Carter, he had far worse performance in his first playoff experience against the Knicks, where the Raps were swept 0-3 in the first round. I remember Tracy was still on the team (it was his last year there) and he, not Carter, led the team in scoring. It stil continued the next season where the Raps faced the Knicks in the first round again... well, until his teammate Oak called him out "he's playing like a little girl". I'm sure if LeBron goes to the playoffs this year, he's going to have his little struggle... although I expect him to figure it out faster than Melo does. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">4) In truth, I don't think Melo was all that kean to play on the team in the first place. I'd bet dimes to dollars however that he felt "obligated" in order to somehow keep up with LeBron- to have that media sun shine on him, or he'd lose a step in this odd battle between he and LeBron. You can tell from the way he played and ESPECIALLY the way he ACTED that he didn't want to be there- that he wasn't in control of his own life and was 'forced' to do this.</div> What to do? I believe it's the NBA commish's decision to get Melo on the team, hoping the move would sell both Melo, the Nugs and the NBA. Had he declined the offer, you all Melo-bashers were gonna say, "first it was not going back into the game, and second is this, Melo is a punk, he's selfish." You all are not gonna stop saying sth bad about him. Things didn't work out between him and Larry, they were just too different to be together. Unlike Iverson as the only star in Philly, on this team, if he didn't use Melo there're many other stars like Wade, Matrix and LeBron that he could use. Brown could afford to sit Melo down. And when you're not playing when you're used to being the star, would you really act like you love being on the team? Unless you're Ron Artest or someone who didn't mind being the male cheerleader or waterboy. Be realistic, he's a 20 year old. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">That's when the wheels REALLY started to come off, and why it's become so clear to me that Melo was really feeling the heat of things. See, I don't believe that the friendly Carmelo that so many want to paint him as ever really existed. I believe what you're seeing NOW, and the issues that are going ON now, are the real Carmelo. I don't think he's "changed" at all- because the image of who Carmelo was last year was handed to us by the league- by the handlers of Carmelo's career and by his sponsors. The expectations of Carmelo were to handle himself "like LeBron" in front of all the money and distractions that come along with such a meteoric rise to fame. Melo isn't LeBron, and Melo's letting everyone know, whether consciously or not.</div> Obviously they are two different players and persons. I gotta say LeBron is one of a kind. I don't think veterans at 28-32 are gonna be able to handle all that spotlight that LeBron is handling now, and he's handling them so well he's like born to do it. But in the end, these two guys are just different... you can't expect Melo to do the things that LeBron does. Although he's older than LeBron, Melo is still a twenty year old man, the age where people are commonly trying to figure out who they really are, with the exception of those who're darn mature like LeBron. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">All you have to do is look at these ridiculous Nike ads out now with that guy doing his pseudo-Mars Blackmon immitation calling Carmelo, of all things: "The Shepherd King"... I mean SERIOUSLY. What is THAT??? Why don't they just come out and say that they WANT him to be seen as "The Chosen One"... the freakin' SHEPHERD KING?</div> Marketing guys, they don;t want Melo shoes to go unnoticed amid all the "temptation" LeBron Nike ad. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post"> THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH CARMELO ANTHONY. For an entire YEAR this guy has been pushed into and marketed as something he simply is not, and he's revolting. That's why I don't think it's fair at all and was NEVER fair to continually push Melo's rivalry with LeBron James. Carmelo is a great basketball player, and I agree that he rightfully gave LeBron a great run for the ROY- but he is NOT LeBron James and personally... I think it's plain to see that he's just plain sick of trying to be one.</div> Since when does Melo ever want to be LeBron James? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">He's twenty years old, has had a hell of a start to what can be an incredible NBA career, and he can recover from this in time and get his head on straight. BUT, as long as everyone and their mother's uncle insist on comparing him to James, and particularly the kind of individual that James IS- Melo will suffer from it on all levels. The most of which will be his development as a young man.</div> Where did you get all this BS? If anything, his family wants Melo to be Melo, they all know who LeBron is and how financially more successful he is (at least now) than Melo, but as long as his family is financially darn able, they're gonna have Melo's back... because he's feeding the whole family. Comparing him to LeBron... for what? Did LeBron ever give his share of millions to Melo's family? No. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ChipDWood:</div><div class="quote_post">We can argue about their on-the-court stats or the impact that they have on their teams all we want, but what pisses me off is the simple fact that a young man is hurting right now in the face of being shoe-horned into a role he does not want, a situation that he cannot handle simply out of youth, and no one in the world is going to sympathize with a multi-millionaire who has been given everything in his life yet seems to want none of. Phew. There, I said it. Here's to hoping that ankle gets better for Thursday... when his old pal comes to town... On National TV... Chip</div> Well, you're right that Melo is being placed in a situation where he perhaps doesn't want to be. Maybe he doesn't want to be compared at all to LeBron. But maybe he's loving all this... who knows? His second year is off to a slow start, not due to him being compared to LeBron. He's got lots of off court issues... all unfortunate incidents that he didn't want to get himself into in the first place. The Mary Jane, the video tape allegation, and now the ankle injury... things aren't so smooth with Melo as they are smooth with LeBron. It's just about luck.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all, this is one hell of a long Melo-bashing thread. You said it's unfair to compare him to LeBron then it's the same you who insisted LeBron has gotta be mentioned here.</div> Well, LeBron DOES have to mentioned in the thread, considering that the thread is about all the comparisons made between the two. That's like, the whole point of why I think it's been unfair to Carmelo. Besides, this thread isn't all about bashing the guy- I'm just putting together the reasons for his strangely irresponsible behaviour since it all started going down hill. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">He had every reason to believe he's gonna win ROY since his team record was far improved from the previous season as compared to LeBron. Their first years, they're having careers that were as good, if Melo's not better. This season, no question LeBron is playing much better than Melo although I won't be surprised if Melo catches up in the mid-season.</div> Again, I can throw tons of ammo at ya concerning the ROY from last year, but I figure that's best left for another thread. Now, I could see if Melo were way ahead of anyone else at the time he made the comment ("I'm just upset that I threw away the ROY"), but since it was so close, all year long, I thought it was very punkish for him to say. Think about it. This was also the beginning of Melo's troubles so it fits right in with my case that he was already feeling the weight of the comparisons. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">As someone in this thread mentioned, he was guarded by one of the best defensive players in the L, Trenton Hassell. Plus, it was his first experience in the playoffs... plus, it was his rookie year... plus, he was barely 20 years old. If you remember Vince Carter, he had far worse performance in his first playoff experience against the Knicks, where the Raps were swept 0-3 in the first round. I remember Tracy was still on the team (it was his last year there) and he, not Carter, led the team in scoring. It stil continued the next season where the Raps faced the Knicks in the first round again... well, until his teammate Oak called him out "he's playing like a little girl". I'm sure if LeBron goes to the playoffs this year, he's going to have his little struggle... although I expect him to figure it out faster than Melo does.</div> Point being: he vanished. I don't care who was guarding him, he didn't show. I watched the games man and I could see it. Now I know that rookies going into their first playoffs can get all caught up and thrown off, but this was a potential rookie of the year here, 'supposedly' brought his team to the door, then POOF- gonzo. It's what happened, and it had an affect on his attitude afterwards as well, which is what my original thought was all about. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">What to do? I believe it's the NBA commish's decision to get Melo on the team, hoping the move would sell both Melo, the Nugs and the NBA. Had he declined the offer, you all Melo-bashers were gonna say, "first it was not going back into the game, and second is this, Melo is a punk, he's selfish." You all are not gonna stop saying sth bad about him. Things didn't work out between him and Larry, they were just too different to be together. Unlike Iverson as the only star in Philly, on this team, if he didn't use Melo there're many other stars like Wade, Matrix and LeBron that he could use. Brown could afford to sit Melo down. And when you're not playing when you're used to being the star, would you really act like you love being on the team? Unless you're Ron Artest or someone who didn't mind being the male cheerleader or waterboy. Be realistic, he's a 20 year old.</div> This is a salient point that rockets right back to my original thought: Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't. That's part of the reason, I think, that Melo really started acting up. I am NO fan of Larry Brown's by the way. Guy's a pompous bafoon who tried to blame all of his own coaching mistakes during the games on everyone but himself: Bron Bron and Melo being the prime targets. Then he goes and tries to take all the credit for both James and Wade playing so well this year. Freaking unbelievable. I don't think there's an argument though concerning how Carmelo re-acted to the bad situation... poorly, at best. He powted, complained, got all lethargic, and when he was put in all he did was jack up shot after hopeless shot. He didn't play his game at all. And that, again, is the point. He wasn't happy with the situation at all, and he responded to it incredibly poorly. It was yet another domino. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Obviously they are two different players and persons. I gotta say LeBron is one of a kind. I don't think veterans at 28-32 are gonna be able to handle all that spotlight that LeBron is handling now, and he's handling them so well he's like born to do it. But in the end, these two guys are just different... you can't expect Melo to do the things that LeBron does. Although he's older than LeBron, Melo is still a twenty year old man, the age where people are commonly trying to figure out who they really are, with the exception of those who're darn mature like LeBron.</div> Wait, lemme repeat this part here: "But in the end, these two guys are just different... you can't expect Melo to do the things that LeBron does." And THAT, my friend, is exactly my point. It's been unfair since he came into the league to be thrust into these comparisons with LeBron. LeBron is a different kind of guy and has been able to handle the hype before he even left St. Vincent St. Mary. Melo wasn't ready for this, yet was shoved into it by the powers that be. I think at the start he liked the attention of it all, but as the months went by he grew awfully tired of constantly being shown in LeBron's shadow. Hell, I know I would have been. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Marketing guys, they don;t want Melo shoes to go unnoticed amid all the "temptation" LeBron Nike ad.</div> lol... yea, but "The Shepherd King"... come on man. That's so pathetic it hurts me. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Since when does Melo ever want to be LeBron James?</div> ...I think we're hitting a recurring theme here... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Where did you get all this BS? If anything, his family wants Melo to be Melo, they all know who LeBron is and how financially more successful he is (at least now) than Melo, but as long as his family is financially darn able, they're gonna have Melo's back... because he's feeding the whole family. Comparing him to LeBron... for what? Did LeBron ever give his share of millions to Melo's family? No.</div> The price of tea in china is quite low, from what I've heard. Course, this point about his family and the money LeBron has or hasn't given Melo's or his own has about as much to do with that bargain tea as it does with what we're talking about, but, you digress... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, you're right that Melo is being placed in a situation where he perhaps doesn't want to be. Maybe he doesn't want to be compared at all to LeBron. But maybe he's loving all this... who knows? His second year is off to a slow start, not due to him being compared to LeBron. He's got lots of off court issues... all unfortunate incidents that he didn't want to get himself into in the first place. The Mary Jane, the video tape allegation, and now the ankle injury... things aren't so smooth with Melo as they are smooth with LeBron. It's just about luck.</div> Well, the whole thing is that he's had a rough go ever since late last season, and I think all these comparisons have finally started wearing on him to the point of becoming a distraction to not only his game but his life and the decisions he's been making within it. Again, I think the comparisons are something Melo wants to get away from, because I'm betting he's damn sick of them but can't break away. Keep in mind, no matter what either of the two did last year, Melo was always mentioned almost within the same breath as LeBron, and in being so, Melo did enjoy some benefits from all the attention. That's why trying to peal himself away from those comparisons and that attention will also have its ramifications. I'm telling you, I feel for the guy. And I for one believe that his off-court decisions and even his on-court struggles can draw their roots from this singular problem of high expectation and unreasonable comparison. Hence, my post. Just yo dos pesos chief. Chip
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, LeBron DOES have to mentioned in the thread, considering that the thread is about all the comparisons made between the two. That's like, the whole point of why I think it's been unfair to Carmelo. Besides, this thread isn't all about bashing the guy- I'm just putting together the reasons for his strangely irresponsible behaviour since it all started going down hill.</div>A fancy way to say your bashing Melo. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Again, I can throw tons of ammo at ya concerning the ROY from last year, but I figure that's best left for another thread. Now, I could see if Melo were way ahead of anyone else at the time he made the comment ("I'm just upset that I threw away the ROY"), but since it was so close, all year long, I thought it was very punkish for him to say. Think about it. This was also the beginning of Melo's troubles so it fits right in with my case that he was already feeling the weight of the comparisons. </div> Allright then lets look at the facts. Did melo not have higher sacoring average than LeBron? Yes he did. Lebron averaged more assists than melo but he was a point gaurd and Melo averaged more rebounds than Lebron so we'll just through those two away. Who took his team to the playoffs and, did it in the western confrnce. LeBron couldnt even take his team to the playoffs in the Easy EAST. Case and point. Second, that wasnt the start to melo's "troubles" it started when he acted a bit selfish in the olympics. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Point being: he vanished. I don't care who was guarding him, he didn't show. I watched the games man and I could see it. Now I know that rookies going into their first playoffs can get all caught up and thrown off, but this was a potential rookie of the year here, 'supposedly' brought his team to the door, then POOF- gonzo. It's what happened, and it had an affect on his attitude afterwards as well, which is what my original thought was all about. </div> Yes he had some struggles. playing in the playoffs is a tottally different game. It took him a game or two to realizze that and then he got hurt and mised game 5. Trust me, Melo wants anything than to lose. He is one of the most competitive guys you'll ever meet. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> lol... yea, but "The Shepherd King"... come on man. That's so pathetic it hurts me.</div>lol why even bring this up hes just trying to sell some sneakers. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Again, I think the comparisons are something Melo wants to get away from, because I'm betting he's damn sick of them but can't break away. Keep in mind, no matter what either of the two did last year, Melo was always mentioned almost within the same breath as LeBron, and in being so, Melo did enjoy some benefits from all the attention. That's why trying to peal himself away from those comparisons and that attention will also have its ramifications.</div> Well yea i agree in a sence. I think hes trying his absolute most to say "Hey im just as good as this kid." but in the end he's forcing it. and i have to bring up the Wu Wei it basically states that when you try to force things it never works out and in the end can cause you trouble. However, when you dont force things and let the "game" come to you you can reach your full potential P.S. sry about the Wu Wei part there, ive been reading the Tao Of Pooh in school
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogieman470:</div><div class="quote_post">Well yea i agree in a sence. I think hes trying his absolute most to say "Hey im just as good as this kid." but in the end he's forcing it. and i have to bring up the Wu Wei it basically states that when you try to force things it never works out and in the end can cause you trouble. However, when you dont force things and let the "game" come to you you can reach your full potential P.S. sry about the Wu Wei part there, ive been reading the Tao Of Pooh in school </div> I think maybe young Mr. Shepherd King could USE a little Tao of Pooh right now . Just wanted to throw this in too- anyone see how Melo ripped off his headband in the fourth quarter of Thursday's loss against the Cavaroonies? I'm telling you, dude is sick of the comparisons and he's letting everyone know whether he even knows it or not. Believe me or don't, but that's what I think has been going on. Best of luck to the Nuggs for the rest of the go and until we meet again. Chip D. Wood
Well i dont think its so much that as it is hes trying to hard to prove to ppl who, and what he really is. Jeff Bzdelik even mentioned that could be a potential problem against the cavs last night. Hes trying to hard , and that results in him taking shots that he shouldnt take or things of that nature
