Arroyo from Utah to the Lakers? He seems to be in the dog house in Utah but would fit in great with the Lakers. In a third less minutes he still has more assists than Chucky and I will bet that he could be had for a draft choice.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Atlanta trades: Boris Diaw-Riffiod (No games yet played in 2004/05) Atlanta receives: PF Stanislav Medvedenko (2.9 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 5.4 minutes) Change in team outlook: +2.9 ppg, +0.7 rpg, and +0.1 apg. L.A. Lakers trades: PF Stanislav Medvedenko (2.9 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 5.4 minutes) L.A. Lakers receives: Boris Diaw-Riffiod (No games yet played in 2004/05) Change in team outlook: -2.9 ppg, -0.7 rpg, and -0.1 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED</div> Nothing blockbuster, but Diaw is an outstanding perimeter defender and crashes the boards for a guard. He could be a player the Lakers could count on to make a defensive stop or disrupt a player Chucky allows to get hot offensively. Slava has been lost this season and I don't think he's in the future plans for the Lakers. Given the minutes on a team like the Hawks, he could turn out to be a solid player. The Hawks are loaded with young guards, and they will likely lose Walker in the off-season. Slava would be an upgrade over their current front line, and give the Hawks a good 16 to 18 minutes off the bench.
We need a PF, Lamar can't play it. How about making a run at Kwame Brown..he is 7'0 and 1/2, almost 7'1. He is 273, about 20 pounds up from last year I believe, and most of that 20 pounds is muscle. In the game against the Heat in which he played, he was the only Wizard that gave Shaq problem. I believe Shaq went 1-4 against him. Shaq couldn't budge him, but he couldn't budge Shaq. I believe he can still be a star in this league, and for all those who thinkn that the Wizards forgot about him, or he is a failure this year. He has been on the injured list all year long. I think we could get him while keeping Caron, Odom, and Def. Kobe. If we did get Kwame, we could place Caron on the bench, Odom at the 3 (natural spot). We might have to give up Atkins though... pg- ? sg- Kobe sf- Lamar pf- Kwame or Mihm C- Kwame or Mihm
Odom in the West, to undersize "We need a PF, Lamar can't play it" Lamar, cannot play PF in the West period. Too undersized, fairness to himm he's ask to play teh 4 spot, when everybody knows he's at best a 3. BUT, the Lakers have no choice. Now question is, do the Lakers keep Odom and his 14mil contract and keep experimenting him as a point forward, like Dallas did with AWalker. I really REALLY, hope not. Lakers should use Odom as bait and try to deal him back East for a real PF, but would Mitch/Buss budge?
Yo! Everbody Benifits From This Trade L.A. Lakers trades: PF Lamar Odom (14.8 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.1 apg in 35.8 minutes) Devean George (No games yet played in 2004/05) PF Stanislav Medvedenko (3.7 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.3 minutes) PF Brian Cook (7.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 18.3 minutes) SF Luke Walton (1.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 8.6 minutes) L.A. Lakers receives: PF Tyson Chandler (7.8 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.1 minutes) C Samuel Dalembert (6.3 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes) SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes) Change in team outlook: +10.9 ppg, +6.2 rpg, and -0.4 apg. Chicago trades: PF Antonio Davis (6.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.0 minutes) PF Tyson Chandler (7.8 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.1 minutes) PF Othella Harrington (6.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.2 minutes) Chicago receives: PF Brian Cook (7.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 18.3 minutes) SF Luke Walton (1.7 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 8.6 minutes) Glenn Robinson (No games yet played in 2004/05) C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: -4.1 ppg, -9.0 rpg, and -0.6 apg. Philadelphia trades: Glenn Robinson (No games yet played in 2004/05) C Samuel Dalembert (6.3 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.4 minutes) Philadelphia receives: PF Lamar Odom (14.8 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.1 apg in 35.8 minutes) PF Othella Harrington (6.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.2 minutes) Change in team outlook: +15.0 ppg, +6.2 rpg, and +3.2 apg. Indiana trades: SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes) C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes) Indiana receives: Devean George (No games yet played in 2004/05) PF Stanislav Medvedenko (3.7 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.2 apg in 6.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: -27.8 ppg, -8.9 rpg, and -3.3 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED
Tempted 2 Touch Lakers and Timberwolves Lakers Trade: Chucky Atkins Lamar Odom Devean George FOR: Troy Hudson* Kevin Garnett This is all good news for the Laker's and they could use any 2 of these guys, both would bring a great defensive toughness to the middle and some scoring on the opposite end. Devean George was and will continue not to be a contributor to this desperate laker team. I think getting rid of Deaven George to his hometown would be a great fit. New Laker Lineup: Troy Hudson Kobe Bryant Caron Butler Kevin Garnett Chris Mhim
That is the funniest thing I have read all day..to think the Wolves would give KG up for a player that struggles at the 4 in the West.
KG is not going to the Lakers... Deavan George has not "played" the best season .. And both Hudson and Garnett are first team players, they are making sure the T-Wolves are playing the best they can.. If they trade Hudson and Garnett they will die! But do anyone else have a Lakers trade proposal?
I'd love to have a duo of my two favorite players on the same team with Kobe & KG. I'd trade everyone on the roster and the picks to get KG, but it's a pipedream. How about trading Brian Grant and our #1 pick to Portland for Derek Anderson & Ruben Patterson & Portland's 2005 2nd Round Pick ? Lakers unload Grant's massive contract and take on two smaller contracts that expire the same time as Grant's. Derek Anderson is a viable backup for Kobe, and gives the Lakers a reliable shooter and a scorer off the bench. A change of scenary could be exactly what Anderson needs to get back to being a solid player. Ruben Patterson gives the Lakers a perimeter defender, and defensive energy off the bench, something the desperately need. Portland makes this trade to land another 1st round pick, which opens the door for them to trade up in the draft. The Blazers will be rebuilding and getting rid of two disgruntled veterans is a big step in doing so. Brian Grant was always a fan favorite and will be a the right kind of veteran presence the team needs. Since his contract expires at the same time as Anderson and Patterson anyways, the Blazers aren't really hurting their cap space. The draft is PG deep, and the Lakers can use 1 of their 3 second round picks to bring in a solid player, like Chris Thomas, Aaron Miles, or Luther Head PG - Chucky Atkins/Chris Thomas SG - Kobe Bryant / Derek Anderson SF - Caron Butler / Ruben Patterson / Devean George PF - Lamar Odom/ Brian Cook C - Chris Mihm With the two smaller contracts of Patterson and Anderson, it will be easier for the Lakers to dump those instead of Grant's enormous contract. The Lakers could also look at trading Butler to get a big man, and re-open the Carlos Boozer trade. The initial deal was Butler, George and Slava for Boozer. Landing Boozer allows the Lakers to move Odom to SF. PG - Chucky Atkins/Chris Thomas SG - Kobe Bryant/Derek Anderson SF - Lamar Odom/Ruben Patterson PF - Carlos Boozer/Brian Cook C - Chris Mihm/2nd Rnd Draft pick Feedback?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd love to have a duo of my two favorite players on the same team with Kobe & KG. I'd trade everyone on the roster and the picks to get KG, but it's a pipedream. How about trading Brian Grant and our #1 pick to Portland for Derek Anderson & Ruben Patterson & Portland's 2005 2nd Round Pick ? Lakers unload Grant's massive contract and take on two smaller contracts that expire the same time as Grant's. Derek Anderson is a viable backup for Kobe, and gives the Lakers a reliable shooter and a scorer off the bench. A change of scenary could be exactly what Anderson needs to get back to being a solid player. Ruben Patterson gives the Lakers a perimeter defender, and defensive energy off the bench, something the desperately need. Portland makes this trade to land another 1st round pick, which opens the door for them to trade up in the draft. The Blazers will be rebuilding and getting rid of two disgruntled veterans is a big step in doing so. Brian Grant was always a fan favorite and will be a the right kind of veteran presence the team needs. Since his contract expires at the same time as Anderson and Patterson anyways, the Blazers aren't really hurting their cap space. The draft is PG deep, and the Lakers can use 1 of their 3 second round picks to bring in a solid player, like Chris Thomas, Aaron Miles, or Luther Head PG - Chucky Atkins/Chris Thomas SG - Kobe Bryant / Derek Anderson SF - Caron Butler / Ruben Patterson / Devean George PF - Lamar Odom/ Brian Cook C - Chris Mihm With the two smaller contracts of Patterson and Anderson, it will be easier for the Lakers to dump those instead of Grant's enormous contract. The Lakers could also look at trading Butler to get a big man, and re-open the Carlos Boozer trade. The initial deal was Butler, George and Slava for Boozer. Landing Boozer allows the Lakers to move Odom to SF. PG - Chucky Atkins/Chris Thomas SG - Kobe Bryant/Derek Anderson SF - Lamar Odom/Ruben Patterson PF - Carlos Boozer/Brian Cook C - Chris Mihm/2nd Rnd Draft pick Feedback?</div> I don't understand why we would do that tho. We trade away our LOTTO pick with, even a horrible contract, 1 of our only good defensive big men we get a shooting guard and a small foward. We got 5 small fowards all ready who can back up the 7 minutes Kobe is riding the bench. I mean I would understand if we were getting contracts that were expirign, but those 2 contracts combined are just as bad as Grants, and he takes only 1 roster spot. And we don't even get our lotto pick from it..... which sucks.... That trade would be horrible for us and would not be a trade for the future....
Here is a trade I have been working on this season: Lakers trades: PF Lamar Odom (15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes) Miami Heat 2006 First Round Pick Lakers receives: PF Carlos Boozer (17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes) Utah First Round Pick 2005 - Not Lottery Protected Change in team outlook: +2.6 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and -0.9 apg. Utah trades: PF Carlos Boozer (17.8 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.8 minutes) Utah First Round Pick 2005 - Not Lottery Protected Utah receives: PF Lamar Odom (15.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 3.7 apg in 36.3 minutes) Miami Heat 2006 First Round Pick Change in team outlook: -2.6 ppg, +1.2 rpg, and +0.9 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Laker Benefits: They will get a good power foward which they need badley for their success. They ship out one of hteir numerous small fowards with Miami Heats First Rounder for this plus another Lotto Pick. This is going to give them probably the 4th overall pick which leaves us to draft anyone except Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, and Chris Paul. With the tenth pick also it gives us a option (if we pick up Deron Williams/Raymond Felton/Jarret Jack with the upper pick to secure out point guard needs) than pick a big to back up Mihm/Boozer front court like Ike Diogu or somebody. Utah Benefits: They pick up a ballhandler and a guy with an extremely good inside/outside game. He can play the pg-sg-sf for them and could really help this team grow chemistry, plus his contract ends sooner than Boozer's and this just gets them a player who can help them grow better team chemistry.....which is what they need. Odom is a unselfish player who can help set up guys like Okur/Harping/Kirelinko for easy baskets and he is a very coachable player which Sloan loves. Plus they get Miami's 2006 pick which good be high/low or in the middle of the 1st round because....if Miami doesn't pick up Shaq in the off season, hang them out to dry and I have a feeling if they don't win a championship he is not going to resign with them.... Input?
no.odom is better than booz.odom brings ODOM BOOZER points=b- points=b rebounds=a rebounds=b passing=b passing=f blocks/steals=b blocks steals=b
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> How about trading Brian Grant and our #1 pick to Portland for Derek Anderson & Ruben Patterson & Portland's 2005 2nd Round Pick ? </div> I like that, I think that the Lakers could use them both
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers1:</div><div class="quote_post">no.odom is better than booz.odom brings ODOM BOOZER points=b- points=b rebounds=a rebounds=b passing=b passing=f blocks/steals=b blocks steals=b</div> how bout low post defense: ODOM = F Boozer = B right now we dont need a passer we need defense if you dont watch laker games, plus we get their lotto pick...which is good cuz we can draft another BIG and A Point guard! the portland trade sounds horrible....we would be stupid to do that, yes it is good to trade B. Grant contract away but the problem is, we get back 2 contracts that are just as bad combined, we would be doing them a favor ginvign them our lottery pick and taking 2 roster spots.... we dont even need guys at those positions....we need big men, Grant is the second best one on our team right now whether you like it or not, he is the best with Mihm on the IR.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">how bout low post defense: ODOM = F Boozer = B right now we dont need a passer we need defense if you dont watch laker games, plus we get their lotto pick...which is good cuz we can draft another BIG and A Point guard! the portland trade sounds horrible....we would be stupid to do that, yes it is good to trade B. Grant contract away but the problem is, we get back 2 contracts that are just as bad combined, we would be doing them a favor ginvign them our lottery pick and taking 2 roster spots.... we dont even need guys at those positions....we need big men, Grant is the second best one on our team right now whether you like it or not, he is the best with Mihm on the IR.</div> My trade was a 2 part deal, and the Lakers end up with Boozer anyways. Who cares if Anderson and Patterson take up two roster spots. The Lakers bench is terrible, this upgrades it. Sure the Lakers get two ugly salaries, but at least Patterson and Anderson can contribute on a nightly basis and fill some of the Lakers' needs. Anderson won't struggle to give the Lakers 10 to 12 points off the bench, and more importantly, he's a viable sub for Kobe Bryant. The Lakers depend far too, much on Kobe, and the older he gets, the harder it will be for him to heal and recover from 40+ minute nights. Patterson improves the Lakers pathetic perimeter defense. He's a guy who will challenge his teammates and get into Kobe's face. He also brings a toughness to the club and isn't afraid to foul hard. BTW - I also like your trade, I'd like to give Odom a season at SF first before giving up on him though.
Can sum1 explain to me what is going on with Big ben??? Is he going to be a free agent after that season or what??? Just imagine Big Ben in LA!!
Big Ben will be a free agent after next season, but he will likely sign an extension this summer with the Pistons.
Hmm, im near DC and my secondary team has always been Bullets/Wizards..... Kwame Brown 98% GONE from DC. Im sure everyone knows he is no longer traveling nor practicing with the Wiz this postseason after a visit with coach jordan and the GM. I know some like kwame and some hate em, i think he has always had the potential (he does carry a 30/20 game on Sac i believe) he just has been to soft and quite horrible in washington. Anyone see LA picking him uP? and would you think that would be smart?
I don't mind the Lakers gambling for Kwame if they can do it for cheap. If they can do something similar to what the TWolves did with Eddie Griffin, and sign Kwame to a 1 year deal to see if he is truely committed to fulfilling his expectations, than go for it. If it's going to cost them a Pick or the MLE, I'd pass on him.
