Hey I would just like to know the Hawks fans opinions on the subject of Walker. he is a home town hero, and has lite it up for the team, but the Hawks cant win still.. do you see him returning next season to the franchise?
I see Antoine Walker returning to the Hawks for atleast a few more years, because who else do they have to build around at this point? Josh Childress? Josh Smith? I dont think so. Antoine is staying in ATL till either one of the Josh's has worked there way to semi-stardom or complete stardom like Wade did over a year. I would consider trading 'Toine if it were for someone good but if its for scrubs or player's who's potential barrier hasnt been broken yet, im against it.
The only scoring option right now is Walker. You dont wanna trade him and I hope he doesnt leave either.
If I'm not mistaken Walker is a free agent. I have always seen Antoine Walker as a winner guy. I don't think he will be willing to return to a losing franchise. If the Hawks offered him the right kind of money that might be a possibility however, there will be many teams willing to pay Walker a lot of money. I've heard rumors he might be going to the Knicks, or the Sixers. If the Hawks let Walker walk not only will they save a ton of money, but, they can also sign a quality player in return, wath Childress and co. develop, and the way it looks now have a decent pick in the lottery. So Walker might go and if he does it is not a huge minus for the Hawks. They will have more going for themselves then they do against imo.
there are rumours EVERYONE is going to the knicks....just the other day a source close to the knicks suggested that i might go and play for them...or maybe the elephant man, jordan really would be good too......any way. You know what i mean. Knicks....no. They dont have the cap room or the goods to do a trade.
There are many rumors about New York but, the Walker to NY rumor actually had substance to it. And the Knicks are looking like such a good team now that some players are even considering playing for the MLE. Trading wise they have a couple of big expiring contracts next season so they will have the goods.
in what world are the knicks looking like "such a good team" ?? they havnt even won 2 games in a row and recently got embarassed by the raptors...who arent by any means a high powered offensive or defensive team. there is no question that the knicks have lots of good players...are they as a team playing up to the potential of what they should be? i dont think so at least
Very true DJ, the Knicks are not nothing sprecial right now, as a matter of fact nobody in the Atlantic Divsion is doing that good. I think Toine may end up leaving, that is if anyone wants to sign him.Right now I doubt anybody would offer him a big contract, the best he is worth imo is MLE.Unless the Hawks offer him an extension, I see him signing with another team, but I think the Hawks should resign him, him and Al Harrington are the only players worth building around.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">in what world are the knicks looking like "such a good team" ?? they havnt even won 2 games in a row and recently got embarassed by the raptors...who arent by any means a high powered offensive or defensive team. there is no question that the knicks have lots of good players...are they as a team playing up to the potential of what they should be? i dont think so at least</div> What are you talking about the Knicks have'nt won two games in a row. They beat Philadelphia, and LAC, then they beat Cleaveland and Atlanta, and will most likely beat Atlanta today for the second straight W again and win 4 of their last 5 games. The Knicks are loaded with offensive talent and I think can be classified as a high powered offense. Steph, Jamal, H2O, Penny, Kurt, Mohammed(the way he's been playing as of late), and many other players I'm leaving out I think is a high powered offense. The Knicks have had a very tough schedule so far. Minnesota, Indiana, Dallas, and San Antonio are all elite teams. Then you have other teams that are still competition for NY like Cleaveland, Philadelphia etc. The Knicks President of Basketball operations said we would be lucky to be at .500 by the end of 20 games because the competition of our first 20 games is intense. So I have no idea of what you are talking about when you say they aren't a good team.
first all i didnt mean they havnt won two games in a row at all this season (if thats what i meant then thats what i would have said). what i meant was they arent even riding a two game winning streak...they are now with last nights win over the hawks, but they werent when i typed that. and i never questioned whether the knicks were loaded with talent or not...in fact if you actually read my post i even said that they are. and im beginning to think that you didnt read my post, because you ended your post by putting words in my mouth...i never said that they arent a good team...i only questioned your statement that they are currently "looking like such a great team". and i still question that. so what...you've had a tough schedule? lots of teams have had a tough schedule...a team thats "looking like such a good team" is the spurs...who have had a tough schedule and have a record to back that up. one game over .500 with recent wins over toronto and atlanta is hardly something to get all excited about
^ true that. The "such a good team" is over .500 for the first time in 3 years. Oh ya..they're a powerhouse. And dont talk about schedules.... Raptors Rockets - W Pistons - W Blazers - W @Kings - L @Jazz [B 2 B] - W @Sonics - L @Blazers [B 2 B] - L @Clippers - L @Nuggets [B 2 B] - L Sonics - L Spurs - W @Wizards - L Knicks [B 2 B] - W Summary: 4 back to backs, 7 games on the road, and 10 games vs West. Knicks @Timberwolves - L Celtics - L Sixers - W Clippers - W @Pacers - L @Spurs - L @Rockets - W @Mavericks [B 2 B] - L Cavaliers - W Atlanta - W @Toronto - L Summary: 1 back to back, 6 games on the road, and 5 games vs West we've got you trumped in quality teams,number of road games, games vs the west and check out the back to backs we played!!!! Your schedule is about average...maybe a bit tougher. But our is the hardest in the NBA.
I never put words in your mouth. When you say: "in what world are the knicks looking like such a good team??" I automatically assume that it means they are not a good team. The Knicks are the favorites to take the Atlantic this season, and have the chance to advance deep into the playoffs now that Indiana is arguably out of contention. The two game wining streak thing I think you should have clarified a bit. The fact that they are landed with talent makes them an attractive team to a guy who is on a team that isn't.
perhaps ^. But they're loaded with the same type of talent has him. Purely offensive, inconsistent, poor shot selection, "what the hell is defence" kind of talent. I think even he'd see that wouldnt work.
I never said Toronto was a bad team infact, Toronto was never mentioned in the thread until now. This thread is about Antoine Walker not about the Raptors. Walker has been interested in NYK as well as NYK interested in Walker. I haven't heard any reports that Walker coming to Toronto. Try reading this link son: Link
Just to bring things back to the topic a bit, aren't the Bulls suppossed to have some nice cap space this summer? Antoine is from Chicago, his daughter lives there, he has his basketball camp there every summer. While I think the Knicks present the biggest draw (high-profile media market, weak conference and the lure of playing at MSG) if they can't put together enough of an offer and if the Hawks don't show any signs of improvement, I wouldn't rule out the Bulls.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CeltsMan54:</div><div class="quote_post">Just to bring things back to the topic a bit, aren't the Bulls suppossed to have some nice cap space this summer? Antoine is from Chicago, his daughter lives there, he has his basketball camp there every summer. While I think the Knicks present the biggest draw (high-profile media market, weak conference and the lure of playing at MSG) if they can't put together enough of an offer and if the Hawks don't show any signs of improvement, I wouldn't rule out the Bulls.</div> Hmm. That is interesting but, I think Walker would want to play for a better team. But, you should never rule out the hometown team. Interesting scenario. I don't know if Walker would be a good fit for Chicago. I dont know if his style of play should be exposed to young players. He's somewhat of a ballhog, and he chucks up bad shots. The young players might witness this and start doing this because of his example. The way Hinrich distributes the ball so well, Walker might ruin the flow of things. I dont see how Walker would really be a good fit for them. If I were Chicago I would try and make a run at players like Redd. Walker needs to get his style under control and then maybe it might work out for Chicago.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm. That is interesting but, I think Walker would want to play for a better team. But, you should never rule out the hometown team. Interesting scenario. I don't know if Walker would be a good fit for Chicago. I dont know if his style of play should be exposed to young players. He's somewhat of a ballhog, and he chucks up bad shots. The young players might witness this and start doing this because of his example. The way Hinrich distributes the ball so well, Walker might ruin the flow of things. I dont see how Walker would really be a good fit for them. If I were Chicago I would try and make a run at players like Redd. Walker needs to get his style under control and then maybe it might work out for Chicago.</div> I don't think it would really work either, but I just wanted to throw it out there. The thing about Toine is that he can work within a system. People forget that at the start of last season, Toine was playing as well as anyone on the Mavericks and had big assist numbers. He was also willing to take a step back and be the second option behind Pierce in Boston. I just think that in Atlanta he feels he HAS to shoot that much for them to have a chance to win. Also, he's never been afraid to step up and be the media scape-goat, which is something that Curry and Chandler might appreciate. It'll be an interesting offseason. Also, just one more to keep in mind: LB has always been a big fan of Antoine. If they move Artest I'm willing to bet that you'll hear rumors of Antoine to the Pacers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I never put words in your mouth. When you say: "in what world are the knicks looking like such a good team??" I automatically assume that it means they are not a good team. </div> well..here is a quote from your post "So I have no idea of what you are talking about when you say they aren't a good team" thats putting words in my mouth since i never said that or emplied it...you made an assumption and read into my post when i didnt mean anything other then what i said...not exactly my fault is it? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Knicks are the favorites to take the Atlantic this season, and have the chance to advance deep into the playoffs now that Indiana is arguably out of contention. The two game wining streak thing I think you should have clarified a bit. The fact that they are landed with talent makes them an attractive team to a guy who is on a team that isn't.</div> all i see here are opinions...no facts. but good on ya...thats what msg boards are for...opinions <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CeltsMan54:</div><div class="quote_post">Just to bring things back to the topic a bit, aren't the Bulls suppossed to have some nice cap space this summer? Antoine is from Chicago, his daughter lives there, he has his basketball camp there every summer. While I think the Knicks present the biggest draw (high-profile media market, weak conference and the lure of playing at MSG) if they can't put together enough of an offer and if the Hawks don't show any signs of improvement, I wouldn't rule out the Bulls.</div> its possible...i dont see antoine taking a huge pay cut to go and play for the knicks any more then i see him signing another huge contract and playing for someone like atl or the bulls
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">well..here is a quote from your post "So I have no idea of what you are talking about when you say they aren't a good team" thats putting words in my mouth since i never said that or emplied it...you made an assumption and read into my post when i didnt mean anything other then what i said...not exactly my fault is it?</div> When you say "In what world are the Knicks looking like such a good team" I think it can be emplied tha you are saying they're not a good team. If I were to hypothetically say in what world are the Raptors looking like such a good team I think that one can automatically assume that the "in what world" phrase would mean they are not a good team although I never actually said it. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">all i see here are opinions...no facts. but good on ya...thats what msg boards are for...opinions</div> The Knicks having talent is a fact. The Knicks still being the favorites to win the atlantic is also a fact. The Knicks have the chance to advance deep into the playoffs if Indiana is out is also a fact. Hmm. I don't see any oppinions. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">its possible...i dont see antoine taking a huge pay cut to go and play for the knicks any more then i see him signing another huge contract and playing for someone like atl or the bulls </div> Last summer Erick Dampier was strongly debating on taking the MLE and was traded before making his final decision. Also if Rasheed Wallace never won a championship with Detroit, said he would sign with the Knicks for the MLE. It is very possible Walker can sign with NY for the MLE. Walker said he is interested in the Knicks and the Knicks are interested in him too.
