New coach please!!

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  1. .cabangbang

    .cabangbang BBW Member

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    We need a new coach. Monty hardly plays our best player Pietrus. And I haven't seen Biedrins play the whole year [​IMG] It would be nice if we could get Muss back, we need his intensity
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriors #1:</div><div class="quote_post">We need a new coach. Monty hardly plays our best player Pietrus. And I haven't seen Biedrins play the whole year [​IMG] It would be nice if we could get Muss back, we need his intensity</div>

    Man, we need 2002 back. Wait, nevermind. Really though, I'll give these guys a year of leeway. Everything's pretty much new except for the owner, so yea...*growing pains*.
     
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    upsidedownside7 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I have a question regarding Monty...

    Is it likely that we could fire monty at season's end? Would we have to win 20 games or less? Would we still pay the rest of his contract? Is Mullin just sitting by and saying "give them more time?"

    We are losing games and losing bad so one could not say Montgomery has done a good job. The better coaches make lemonade out of lemons but you can't blame him either. Foyle, DD, Cliffy and Dunleavy have stunk it up and our concept of team defense is awful.

    This whole season has been bad and it's going to get worse.
     
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    Kwan1031 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I seriously doubt that Mullin will fire Monty. After all, hiring monty after bad break up with Muss was one of his signature moves during this offseason. Not only firing after one season will look awfully bad for Mullin, it's not like Jackson or any quality coaches are banging Warriors' door. Also, we have to pay him whatever he signed for, so no matter what happens, I think he will be hired at least until the beginning of next season...
     
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    Though they are playing pretty bad a coaching change at this point in the year would most likely not solve the problem. I think what they need is more of a inside game all they really do is take jumpers most of the time they do not work the ball around well either. I do not know I have only sen a few games, but I think what they need most is new offensive plays.
     
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    Pietrus and Biedrens need to be in there for sure...
     
  7. .cabangbang

    .cabangbang BBW Member

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    the warriors can't make outside shots. :thumbsdow and we shoot them all the time. when we win, most of the time we drive the ball inside all the time. Pietrus is great at that, :thumbsup: but Monty inists on starting Dunleavy and his horrible shooting. [​IMG] Start Pietrus [​IMG]
     
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    Stop with the knee jerk reactions. Monty has coached 11 games!

    I was at the game Friday night, the Warriors blew at least 7 layups, horrendous. Plus they got torched by Rick Brunson and Michael Ross. What the hell is that? That is not bad coaching, that's bad playing.

    For you Dunleavy haters, he hardly played so it was not his fault. Pietrus showed some good promise. There is no inside game though. Claxton was aggressive in the 2nd qtr and had 18 at halftime but then the Warriors started shooting jumpers again and could not contain Brunson, Jaric and Ross while Maggette, their best scorer, was on the bench injured.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    It's really not one player, but the players we have in general. No inside presence and horrible defense... and the team can't even make layups, or free throws and nobody respects their shot from outside. Monty doesn't have much to work with because his offense relies on big men to pound the ball inside and solid players who can play defense, rebound, handle the ball, and shoot... like any of the Utah Jazz type players would be nice like Carlos Boozer or Matt Harpring and Kirilenko. Defense first and solid team execution is his philosophy so you can at least keep tougher opponents within striking range. W's can't even hold out til the end of the first quarter to stop a blowout! The other team might as well 3-2 zone it everytime like last year, except we don't have Cardinal's outside shooting or Dampier's inside play to make it any easier. It's tough when you have no post game in your lineup. It's tough when your starting 2 guard can't dribble, make layups, play defense, or hit free throws. It's tough when your small forward has no strength to utilize in the post, takes forever to find his jumper, no speed, has no defense, no killer instinct, and also can't hit free throws. And then the list goes on with Fisher and Foyle being not as good fits for this team as Mullin hoped and being locked up for 6 years each.

    Right now I think Claxton and Pietrus are our best players because they seem to make everyone better. Not Jrich. Not in his condition. Take him out of the lineup and have him comeback when he's ready.
     
  10. .cabangbang

    .cabangbang BBW Member

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    JR has not been very good since the hand thing. Look he scored 20 + points a few times without the finger. Once he recovers he will be doing fine and being a better player than he has been latley
     
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    What's up with Montgomery's infatuation with Calbert "Dick" Cheaney? At first it was just annoying, but now it's really starting to p!ss me off! Pietrus was playing better than any other warrior in the first half, and benched the whole second half in favor of Cheaney, who f's something up every other possesion. I don't understand what is going on. And please don't tell me that it's because Pietrus is "lost", cause even a lost Pietrus outplays the gum-chewing Cheaney. If you want Pietrus to really take his game to the next level and not make the occasional out-of-control play, HE NEEDS THE PLAYING TIME!
     
  12. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I'm pretty unhappy about the coaching that game. What was up? Was it some little lesson for Jrich?
     
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    Guys, most of you seem to be missing a fundamental point. It takes a LONG time for players to learn a coach's system. A team can't learn a new coach's scheme in a summer and preseason, it takes at least half a season to become comfortable and I'd say at least a full year and two summers to become adept. And that's if you have a veteran coach.

    In addition, Montgomery has to learn not only about his players, but coaching in the NBA. Musselman said it took 50 games before he felt comfortable with his players in '02/'03, so I'd give Montgomery at least that long.

    If you keep changing coaches, you're going to keep being mediocore. There's a reason why teams like Minnesota, San Antonio, Sacramento, and Dallas are successful: they stuck with the same coach and the same core group of players, even though they were bad. They went through a few rough seasons and then moved to the top of the league because the players and coaches were all on the same page and had been together several years.

    When a team is struggling *cough* Warriors *cough* Clippers *cough* it gets into a vicious circle where the media and fans are constantly calling for trades and coaching changes which means new guys are brought in and they have to learn a new system, which takes time. Meanwhile the team continues to struggle, the fans and media call for more changes, the GM does it to show the fans they're doing something, more guys have to learn another new system, the team continues to suck, and the fans look around at other teams *cough* Kings *cough* Mavs *cough* T-Wolves *cough* who were equally bad a few years ago, but the other team stuck with the same players and coaches and now they're good, and the fans of the bad team wonder why their team can't make a similar turnaround...sound familiar???

    Grow up, be patient, and stick with the guys you got because the grass really isn't greener on the other side of the fence, you just need to give your own time to grow.
     
  14. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I don't think we should switch coaches again, but Monty should get his head checked. That was just horrible.
     
  15. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting superder81:</div><div class="quote_post">Man, we need 2002 back. Wait, nevermind. Really though, I'll give these guys a year of leeway. Everything's pretty much new except for the owner, so yea...*growing pains*.</div>

    That sounds familiar. The warriors have no continuty at all. Every year they make changes for no reason instead of letting the team grow.
     
  16. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Yeah I know it's horrible. A suggestion was made that Monty is using all his games this season to figure out what everyone does on the court together despite knowing about what the players limitations are.
     

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