<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Jumaine Jones who was wide open 5 feet away from Kobe. Great game, just was very disappointed in Kobe's play through the 2nd half and OT.</div> I originally thought he was open too, but after I saw the replay, there was a defender just to the right of him, slightly off-screen ... If Kobe had passed it to him, Jumaine would've had to swing it one more time, and they didnt have enough time for that ... with 3 seconds, there isn't much to do except shoot the darn thing ... edit: I meant to the left of him, not the right ..
You can't pass the ball out with three seconds and a near-triple team. Kobe was the only one who moved off the ball. Is it Kobe's fault? No. Is it Rudy's fault? Could be. Or maybe it's someone else's fault for not using the screen set for them...I don't know. Kobe still should've hit the shot. In fact, this game should've never went into OT. That last offensive rebound seriously killed it for us.
great game, it would have been great if either kobe or wade had gotten the a buzzer to win it. Kobe had a great game on a losing cause , he was on fire in the first hitting all those 3's but he cooled off after the 1st. Wade had a good overall game, especailly doing well in OT. nonetheless a great game as expected.
lakers had two key posessiong where they messed everything, one was the shot clock violation and the other was the charge by atkins, if they could have at least gotten a shot it would have been better and maybe gone in and we would have won
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I had a lot of beef about some of the coaching decisions in the latter part of the game...why didn't Rudy put Kobe on Wade a bit earlier, and not wait until he was done torching us to make the switch....why was Mihm still in the game when Shaq came out? What was Chucky thinking when he passed up the shot to drive into the lane?? lol </div> Kobe was on Wade earlier, he got two fouls, normally you don't like the best perimeter player on your team guarding the best one on the other team, <u>if</u> they're players who draw a lot of fouls on their man. Kobe did good early on, but he was taking some bad shots all game, except for about 3 shots of the pick and roll on Shaq. He was overdribbling and taking bad shots, but he was on <font color="Yellow">fire</font>. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">yea, Odom shot the ball well, but he had several stupid fouls. Why did he feel the need to foul Laetner 90 feet away from the basket </div> Wasn't that an over the back on a rebound or something? The Wade foul was stupid, but I think the Laettner one was over the back.
Wade more than made up for his bad shot at the end of regulation with his play in overtime. This was a great game, kept me jumping off my couch throughout. Shaq did not do as well as I thought he would on his revenge day though, real stupid with the fouls. The main reason the Lakers lost this one was because Kobe became loathe to attack the basket after Shaq fouled out. It was as if he didn't want to anymore because there was no more challenge in doing it.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe was on Wade earlier, he got two fouls, normally you don't like the best perimeter player on your team guarding the best one on the other team, <u>if</u> they're players who draw a lot of fouls on their man. </div>. I realize that...what i'm referring to is OT, when Kobe only had 4 fouls ... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wasn't that an over the back on a rebound or something? The Wade foul was stupid, but I think the Laettner one was over the back.</div> It was both (like I said, he had several of them, including that T) . The Laettner one was when Odom had already lost the rebound, but he kept pressing for it .... in any event, it's irrelevant who it was...he should've been smarter than to let his frustrations come out in the form of fouling people from behind half court
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With Shaquille O'Neal watching from the bench after fouling out late in the fourth quarter, Dwyane Wade and Eddie Jones scored four points each in overtime and the Heat beat the Lakers 104-102 to extend their winning streak to 11 games, equaling a franchise record. </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Corvette won, but the Lakers lost. </div> http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3275180
Odom kept us in it in OT, but he also kept us out of the lead. I think Kobe should of looked more to penetrate in OT, he should of demanded the ball and drove. I believe we would of won if that was going to happen. None the less, the Heat played a great game and it lived up to its hype. Dwyane Wade is on the road to stardom. He won the game for them, Shaq was just a pawn in the game.
Too bad the Lakers should have won it. Kobe draining a three in the end would have been a perfect ending. But it didn't happen, I'm wondering will there be another early preview of Lakers@Heat game? Will it be as much hyped or less.. or more?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purpleb0n9:</div><div class="quote_post">Too bad the Lakers should have won it. Kobe draining a three in the end would have been a perfect ending. But it didn't happen, I'm wondering will there be another early preview of Lakers@Heat game? Will it be as much hyped or less.. or more?</div> Their will be less hype because it will be the 2nd time they face eachother, not first, it won't be on christmas day, and Lamar Odom/Butler/Grant didn't win rings or anything special in Miami like Shaq, so the hype won't be there like this game. Still will be another amazing matchup if nobody significant is injured or hurt.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purpleb0n9:</div><div class="quote_post">Too bad the Lakers should have won it. Kobe draining a three in the end would have been a perfect ending. But it didn't happen, I'm wondering will there be another early preview of Lakers@Heat game? Will it be as much hyped or less.. or more?</div> I think that the hype is going to be less and the spotlight will be on Wade and Kobe not Shaq and Kobe. Listen before y'all go crazy. Kobe and Shaq will resolve this incident that is between them and the media will be focused on the guard comparison. Trust me.
Hopefully the Lakers can maintain this kinda play for the rest of the season. Miami is the best team in the East and they showed it. But the Lakers played very well even though they lost. But yeah goin back to their play today. Playing like the way they played today for the rest of the season means more then just making to the playoffs. Not saying title contenders either. But being a threat in the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sonics1:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that the hype is going to be less and the spotlight will be on Wade and Kobe not Shaq and Kobe. Listen before y'all go crazy. Kobe and Shaq will resolve this incident that is between them and the media will be focused on the guard comparison. Trust me.</div>right right. I believe the lakes played well as a team before shaq was foulded out and then the lakes just looked lost. Personally; I believe the lakers didnt deserve to win this game down the stretch due two critical plays that they made at the end of the game. There first mistake was when Chucky atkins drew a charge and gave the ball back to the heat down the stretch when the lakes deserately needed points. I believe if the lakes would have been focused on just scoring and not neccesarily taking the three chucky would have never gotten that charge. Kobe should have driven in to get the two instead of the lakes passing around the perimeter for the three. which led to chucky giving the ball back to the heat. If the lakes would have just taken a two before chucky got the charge. then when they got the critical stop on the heat they would have had a chance to win the game with another two, three , or just force overtime where they could have regrouped and collected themsleves for the win. I believe the lakers played really well before the last seconds trickled down where i believe the Lake show collasped. oh yeh almost forgot theses are only my opinions.
Point is, when Mihm forgot to grab the rebound instead of tip it out to halfcourt, that's when I knew it was over. Even with Wade missing it at the end of the fourth, this game was done when we took it into overtime. Why? No matter what Kobe did, could do, or would do...the Lakers can't run with a quick shooting team like Miami. Without Shaq, the Heat are a threat to a less-defensive team like the Lakers. I've said this all along...that the Lakers aren't going to have problems down low, or pulling boards...the biggest problem is their backcourt and them trying to keep up. Against a shooting team, the Lakers will have trouble, especially if the PG can shoot...it's all over. Kobe was on Jones...and that allowed Wade to take over this game...simple as that. The reason? The Lakers were having trouble keeping up with the Heat. Jones wasn't quick enough, and neither was Mihm. Like I said, I pretty much died when Mihm missed the rebound on that last Heat possession (before Wade's miss). It killed me to know that we were either going into OT, or we were going to lose on a Wade game-winner. But, I knew Wade's shot wasn't going in, because the Lakers were playing good defense when the game was slow. Hehe...
What about the play before that, where Kobe held the ball way too long? He dribbled it out til about 4 seconds, shoved it to Odom who had two guys on him. Because Odom had no where to go he passed it to Atkins with about 1 second left and the shot clock ran out before Chucky could release his three that didn't count. You could pretty much pin every possession and say it "cost" us the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">What about the play before that, where Kobe held the ball way too long? He dribbled it out til about 4 seconds, shoved it to Odom who had two guys on him. Because Odom had no where to go he passed it to Atkins with about 1 second left and the shot clock ran out before Chucky could release his three that didn't count. You could pretty much pin every possession and say it "cost" us the game.</div> I actually can laugh at that play, really...because it was the first time that Kobe actually did that to someone else, rather than the numerous times that they do it to him. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't happy about it. In fact, I wasn't happy about anything once Shaq left the game. Too bad we couldn't use him just a little more before he fouled out.
One mistake I think lost of the game was Kobe driving and fouling out Shaq...the way I look at it with Shaq out on the floor they can not run the ball...at all...I mean they are reduced to a half court offense and when Shaq was in the game was easiest for us to score because we could run them and they would be down a man....but when he fouled out htey could match our speed and thats why they came back and won. Good game by both teams.....I didnt get to see the whole thing...I sa the begginning and the end(seeing family) but I recorded it. Shaq had a good game...not dominated....but good. i think they should have used him more. Kobe was on fire first 3 quarters....he just went out in the 4th. I think in OT Odom should have taken the three...he was hot...he already made two the same OT...why not give him the ball. Welll I will watch the tape I recorded and check that out and really watch the game besides ridiculous radio. You know...we may have a W on the board but I really think it was an emotion win and a team win for the Lakers because this Kobe-Shaq fued really has been a problem in the teams progressment and now with it out of the wya and the game being down to the wire...i dont think you will here much crap on the choices the lakers and the organization made.
