Miami Heat @ LA Lakers Christmas Preview!

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  1. Mamba

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    Shaq is dumb..."I knew that wasn't going in.."

    Great game though, and why is everyone making a big deal out of the handshake. Great game by Lamar and Co..Kobe started off hot, cooled down. Shaq let his team down, Wade has been winning games for Miami all year.
     
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    I seriously got sick. No matter what Kobe does, that makes no difference to me. The Lakers had it won, and their defense just failed them...again...and again.

    Rudy T, where's Bobbitt? And Brian Grant wasn't playing bad at all, but wasn't even seeing any minutes late in the game. Jumaine Jones, no defense...makes me sick. Chucky Atkins let Damon shoot threes all game long...and Tierre wasn't anywhere on the court in the second half. Odom did okay...offensively, he was incredible. Defensively, he pretty much played terribly. Mihm couldn't handle the ball about 4 times. Kobe...I can't believe it. That shot was there...he's gotta hit it no matter how many guys are on him.

    Shaq was pretty much owned in this game. Dwyane Wade broke Jumaine's ankles three times and shot over him with ease. I didn't see much of Rasual...but Laettner surprised me off the bench. Shandon Anderson...why was he even there? And with Eddie Jones, he pulled through.

    Great, great great game. Well worth the hype, and more. Congrats to the Heat for pulling it off...and congrats to the Lakers for keeping it hot with the best team in the East.
     
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    Kobe got fouled that last second shot in OT Wade or someone slapped his hand. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cash-Money:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe got fouled that last second shot in OT Wade or someone slapped his hand. [​IMG] [​IMG]</div>
    True, but we still shouldn't have let it go into overtime.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">True, but we still shouldn't have let it go into overtime.</div>

    Did He?
     
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    Yes he salpped him in the hand and Kobe was soppose to go to the line for free throws and the Lakers would of won it because Kobe was like 12-12 in free throws tonight.
     
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    Hmm....seems to me like a reason the Lakers fans will use to claim that they didn't lose this game. It was a great game and I give props to the Lakers for fighting till the very end so get over it please.
     
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    I didn't see a foul, but nevertheless, the officials won't call that at the end of games anyways... ..That's just a part of the game really ...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm....seems to me like a reason the Lakers fans will use to claim that they didn't lose this game. It was a great game and I give props to the Lakers for fighting till the very end so get over it please.</div>
    That's not my reason why we lost. We shouldn't have let it go into OT anyways. There were questionable calls, but that makes no difference once the game goes into OT. If the final shot was a foul, it wasn't hard enough anyways...and the refs won't make the call.
     
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    Their were many questionable calls, but they were going both ways..I will not put that on the reason for defeat.

    The reason we lost is because we couldn't stop Wade in OT. All we needed was one stop, and we couldn't get that.

    But if you think about it, there was NO reason this game should of been in OT. Our defense was horrid down the stretch, that cost us the game. I hope we can solve that.

    Lamar had a great game offensively, I would love to see games like that from him more often.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With Shaquille O'Neal watching from the bench after fouling out late in the fourth quarter, Dwyane Wade and Eddie Jones scored four points each in overtime and the Heat beat the Lakers 104-102 to extend their winning streak to 11 games, equaling a franchise record. </div>
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Corvette won, but the Lakers lost. </div>
    http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3275180
     
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    The reason y'all lost was because Kobe kept shooting 3's. Especially the last shot. He know that he was going to be double teamed and JUMAINE JONES WAS WIDE OPEN RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!!

    So they wrapped it up and did yall see how Kobe got the cold shoulder at the start of the game from Shaq. What is with that?

    All I am saying is that the Heat won without Shaq in their with it being crunch time. That shows that they are a good team because they dont just rely on one person.

    But I do hand it to Kobe he did his thing, but I thought he was trying to show-off and be the big man in the end. This game had me hanging from the couch!
     
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    that was one of the best games i've seen in a while, and i'm still shocked that eddie jones was hitting on his jump shots, he hasn't done that all year.
     
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    Excuses excuses...

    Are you serious? Wade was fouled on his last shot before OT too, so there you go, it shouldnt have even gone to OT. Idiot Kobe thinking he all that [​IMG] 12/30 shooting, how phenomenal, especially in crunch time, he scored how many points after Shaq left? Like what, none or something I think? [​IMG] Shaq was playing better from the bench!!! Kobe is the most overrated player in history of the NBA, there is no way you can mention his name in the same sentence as Michael Jordan! MJ was an amazing shooter, he would go to the line, he had everything. And he actually had a high shooting pct. unlike mr. MJ jr. who cant manage to get his team higher than a 7th seed [​IMG]


    AND the corvette didnt win either, hogging the ball doesnt mean outplaying SHAQ! [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ctp005:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you serious? Wade was fouled on his last shot before OT too, so there you go, it shouldnt have even gone to OT. Idiot Kobe thinking he all that [​IMG] 12/30 shooting, how phenomenal, especially in crunch time, he scored how many points after Shaq left? Like what, none or something I think? [​IMG] Shaq was playing better from the bench!!! Kobe is the most overrated player in history of the NBA, there is no way you can mention his name in the same sentence as Michael Jordan! MJ was an amazing shooter, he would go to the line, he had everything. And he actually had a high shooting pct. unlike mr. MJ jr. who cant manage to get his team higher than a 7th seed [​IMG]


    AND the corvette didnt win either, hogging the ball doesnt mean outplaying SHAQ! [​IMG]</div>
    Idiot Kobe? You judge him on his shooting, but Wade shot a worse percentage...I don't get it.

    Everyone else, Heat fans, Lakers fans, etc...are avoiding confrontation and trying to keep the thread mature. I don't see the need to bash Kobe, really...he, and everyone else, just gave us an incredible game.
     
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    HAHA the Heat WON !!!!!
    O YEAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY

    When that game went into overtime and Shaq was fouled out, I truly thought it was over. I'm not trying to hate on Kobe, but he was trying to show off in this game and every one knows it. Shaq played smart like a team player throughtout this game and in the End the Heat came up with a victory. Lol Kobe was practically the whole Lakers team in this game, besides Lamar Odom who played great offense and mediocre defense. Lamar Odom was tryying to prove something. Shaq played this game like nothing was different. He wasn't trying for 40+ points like Kobe. Dwyane Wade realy picked up the slack in Overtime.

    THe Heat won their 11th consecutive victory and they beat the Lakers AT HOME. O YEAH!!!!!!!! Also There were many questionable calls in this game most of them in favor of the LAkers I might add. I'll just leave this at that.
    Great game too.

    Lol there was one Laker fan in the audencience who has really spoke the truth and All LAker fans know it's true.

    "All I want for Christmas is my Shaq back"
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">HAHA the Heat WON !!!!!
    O YEAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY

    When that game went into overtime and Shaq was fouled out, I truly thought it was over. I'm not trying to hate on Kobe, but he was trying to show off in this game and every one knows it. Shaq played smart like a team player throughtout this game and in the End the Heat came up with a victory. Lol Kobe was practically the whole Lakers team in this game, besides Lamar Odom who played great offense and mediocre defense. Lamar Odom was tryying to prove something. Shaq played this game like nothing was different. He wasn't trying for 40+ points like Kobe. Dwyane Wade realy picked up the slack in Overtime.

    THe Heat won their 11th consecutive victory and they beat the Lakers AT HOME. O YEAH!!!!!!!! Also There were many questionable calls in this game most of them in favor of the LAkers I might add. I'll just leave this at that.
    Great game too.

    Lol there was one Laker fan in the audencience who has really spoke the truth and All LAker fans know it's true.

    "All I want for Christmas is my Shaq back"
    [​IMG] [​IMG]</div>
    Haha, I'd hate to say this...but if it wasn't for Shaq fouling out, which was great btw...the Heat would've been in trouble. The Heat are <u>amazing</u> without O'Neal...because they are fast and can shoot the ball. That's tough to beat. When the game was slow, we were taking it to the Heat...which wasn't supposed to happen in the first place.

    Fact remains that the Heat should've blown us out, since we have guys saying we aren't good enough for the playoffs. If we're good enough to hang with the best team in the Eastern Conference (at the moment), then we are a pretty good team IMO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, I'd hate to say this...but if it wasn't for Shaq fouling out, which was great btw...the Heat would've been in trouble. The Heat are <u>amazing</u> without O'Neal...because they are fast and can shoot the ball. That's tough to beat. When the game was slow, we were taking it to the Heat...which wasn't supposed to happen in the first place.

    Fact remains that the Heat should've blown us out, since we have guys saying we aren't good enough for the playoffs. If we're good enough to hang with the best team in the Eastern Conference (at the moment), then we are a pretty good team IMO.</div>

    Ya Even as one of the biggest Shaq fans on this board I must agree. When Shaq got fouled out the team was then placed on Wades shoulders, and Wade was creating shots and making shots, and creating a fast break style of play. I still say that usually the Heat are MUCh better with Shaq than without Shaq. Injuries were slowing him down I think.

    Ya you guys played a great and competitive game and were missing Caron Butler a key player IMO. The LAkers played better than I thought actually. I think that the Heat can keep that 1st Seed in the East the whole season or by the end of the season #1 will be thiers. When Shaq fouled out though I don't think Kobe really wanted to prove something and he though he beat Shaq in thier litle "ShaqvsKobe" thing. Having Shaq in the game I think is what set him on fire.

    Lol Did Kobe dunk on Shaq or even attempt? Sorry I missed like almost the entire first half of the game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">Haha, I'd hate to say this...but if it wasn't for Shaq fouling out, which was great btw...the Heat would've been in trouble. The Heat are <u>amazing</u> without O'Neal...because they are fast and can shoot the ball. That's tough to beat. When the game was slow, we were taking it to the Heat...which wasn't supposed to happen in the first place.

    Fact remains that the Heat should've blown us out, since we have guys saying we aren't good enough for the playoffs. If we're good enough to hang with the best team in the Eastern Conference (at the moment), then we are a pretty good team IMO.</div>

    Yeah I guess youre right, when the lakers on their best day still lose, theyre a pretty good team [​IMG] Lakers had a good day today, they dont play nearly as good on a regular basis, so yeah lakers suck, so does Kobe. Oh sorry, are we not allowed to use the words idiot and suck around here? I dont get it, you were describing what i said as horrible and oh this and that, i used the word "idiot" not f.....or b....or you know, nothin like that. Fact of the matter is, whether you like it or not, kobe is overrated.

    Yeah Dwyane Wade did shoot worse than Kobe, so? He was having a pretty bad day, well, he played well early and late, but everywhere else he did pretty bad. But lets check Kobe and Dwayne's stats on the year shall we?
    Dwyane Wade fg pct. .496
    Kobe Bryant fg pct. .393

    Yeah thank you very much, Kobe can be 1st or 2nd or whatever in shooting but lets see what the 2 leaders in ppg are doing. One's team is 7th in the conference, the other's is what? 9th or something? And in the east on top of that! So yeah hogging the ball really gets you somewhere doesnt it? Kobe got what he wanted, hes the star now, but he cant win by taking all the shots, especially now that he doesnt have a decoy like shaq to draw the coverage and ease up life for him. Now i see youre a lakers fan, it might piss you off that i am bashing kobe but all i am doing really is laying the facts on the table
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ctp005:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I guess youre right, when the lakers on their best day still lose, theyre a pretty good team [​IMG] Lakers had a good day today, they dont play nearly as good on a regular basis, so yeah lakers suck, so does Kobe. Oh sorry, are we not allowed to use the words idiot and suck around here? I dont get it, you were describing what i said as horrible and oh this and that, i used the word "idiot" not f.....or b....or you know, nothin like that. Fact of the matter is, whether you like it or not, kobe is overrated.

    Yeah Dwyane Wade did shoot worse than Kobe, so? He was having a pretty bad day, well, he played well early and late, but everywhere else he did pretty bad. But lets check Kobe and Dwayne's stats on the year shall we?
    Dwyane Wade fg pct. .496
    Kobe Bryant fg pct. .393

    Yeah thank you very much, Kobe can be 1st or 2nd or whatever in shooting but lets see what the 2 leaders in ppg are doing. One's team is 7th in the conference, the other's is what? 9th or something? And in the east on top of that! So yeah hogging the ball really gets you somewhere doesnt it? Kobe got what he wanted, hes the star now, but he cant win by taking all the shots, especially now that he doesnt have a decoy like shaq to draw the coverage and ease up life for him. Now i see youre a lakers fan, it might piss you off that i am bashing kobe but all i am doing really is laying the facts on the table</div>
    Haha, you might wanna debate this with someone else...
     

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