Rankings for 12/05/04

CourtKing's Rankings (12-5-04)

<font color="Sienna"><div align="center">CourtKing?s College Rankings: (12-5-04)</div></font>

1: Kansas
2: Illinois
3: Gerorgia Tech
4: Wake Forest
5: Syracuse
6: Uconn
7: North Carolina
8: Oklahoma State
9: Duke
10: Michigan State
11: Kentucky
12: Pittsburgh
13: Louisville
14: Texas
15: North Carolina St
16: Washington
17: Arizona
18: Maryland
19: Wisconsin
20. Mississippi St.
21: Alabama
22: Notre Dame
23: Michigan
24: Virginia
25: Memphis

Near Miss: Iowa, Cincinnati, Oklahoma, Gonzaga

I'll be the first I guess cause I am going to be out from 10:00 AM-2:00 PM...

Please comment!

 

S.Livingston14's Rankings

Check umm out. This is what I am submitting into the rankings.

1. Kansas
2. Illinois
3. Georgia Tech
4. Wake Forest
5. UConn
6. UNC
7. Syracuse
8. Oklahoma State
9. Duke
10. Pittsburgh
11. Kentucky
12. Michigan State
13. Texas
14. Maryland
15. Louisville
16. North Carolina State
17. Arizona
18. Washington
19. Wisconsin
20. Mississippi State
21. Michigan
22. Alabama
23. Notre Dame
24. Memphis
25. Arkansas

 

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but I still have a few things to say -

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">10: Michigan State </div>

I think thats too high for the Spartans. They lost to Duke and George Washington this week. That should drop them a lot more than to #10.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">25: Memphis

Near Miss: Iowa</div>

At the very least I'd flip-flop these two. Iowa has played three top 15 teams: Louisville, Texas, and North Carolina, and they beat two out of those three. Memphis played two top 15 teams: Syracuse and Maryland, and they were dealt the worst losses in school history, 11 point and 23 point losses. They also only beat Arkansas State, a team that's only been DI for a few years, by four points. And they were down for a good part of that game against Arkansas State. I just don't like having them in the rankings, none the less over a team that's beaten Texas and Louiville and who's only loss came to UNC.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">22: Notre Dame
23: Michigan</div>

I realize that Michigan's record is worse than Notre Dames, but you have to realize that they've been without Lester Abram, their best player, for all of their losses. They played Notre Dame yesterday and beat theml, so how can you have them over them? I could understand that if an unranked team beat the #1 team then the next week you wouldn't have that unranked team over the #1 team, but when they're that close why not flip-flop them?

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">4: Wake Forest
5: Syracuse</div>

This is really arguable, but shouln't Cuse be over Wake Forest? They beat Mississippi State (your #20) and Memphis (your # 25). Wake Forest didn't just lose either, they got crushed. Syracuse still hasn't slipped. On paper the two teams seem pretty equal to me, but that one bad loss has to drop them at least behind Cuse imo.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">16: Washington </div>

Yeah, they beat a good Alabama team but then they got smashed by Gonzaga. And we're also finding out that the Alabama team they beat isn't as great as everyone thought they were. They have no quality wins now and took triple overtime to pull a one point win over Charlotte.

Again, I'm not trying to get you to change your rankings. I'm just pointing some things out for future reference.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">5. UConn
6. UNC
7. Syracuse</div>

In my opinion, you have these teams all mixed up. North Carolina has a loss, and Connecticut/Cuse don't. I could understand ranking UNC over UConn because UConn doesn't have the quality wins that UNC has at this point. However, Cuse does have the same kind of quality wins that UNC has, and they haven't lost a game yet. Why would you rank them under both UConn and UNC?

 

Where's Florida? Yes, they lost to Miami, but was this enough to have themdrop out of the top 25. Michigan has 2 losses, Memphis has 2 losses. Notre Dame has 1 loss, and they are all better than Florida? I'm not convinced.

 

CUSA Fan's Rankings

Well here we go......

1.Illinois
2.Kansas
3.Georgia Tech
4.Syracuse
5.Wake Forest
6.Oklahoma State
7.UConn
8.Duke
9.North Carolina
10.Maryland
11.Kentucky
12.NC State
13.Pittsburgh
14.Michigan State
15.Texas
16.Louisville
17.Arizona
18.Mississippi State
19.Florida
20.Wisconsin(kind of iffy)
21.Michigan
22.Notre Dame
23.Alabama
24.Virginia
25.Iowa

Theres my rankings. I think towards the end, its kind of iffy and I struggled to let me know. Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Michigan and Florida were the iffy ones.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Where's Florida? Yes, they lost to Miami, but was this enough to have themdrop out of the top 25. Michigan has 2 losses, Memphis has 2 losses. Notre Dame has 1 loss, and they are all better than Florida? I'm not convinced.</div>

I didn't even notice that one. As for Michigan, they have 3 losses: Arizona (1 point in OT), Providence, and Georgia Tech. However, keep in mind that their best player and team leader, Lester Abram, was injured for every one of those game. When he came back yesterday they beat Notre Dame. I think you just have to look past their losses when ranking them. Michigan without Abram is kind of like Louisville without Garcia and Dean. As for Notre Dame, I think they're much better than Florida, but that's really arguable.

 

I personally like most of your rankings. I'd have Michigan State lower and Wisconsin/Iowa higher, but that's something that's my pesonal opinion. There's no obvious bad picks.

 

Oh, I didn't even realize Michigan has 3 losses. As you pointed out, they are without Abram, so Horton is stuck with the PG duty. There losses could be blamed on that, but they are still losses. They have lost to good teams, however.

 

Dre's Rankings

1.Illinois
2.Kansas
3.Georgia Tech
4.Syracuse
5.Wake Forest
6.Oklahoma State
7.UConn
8.Duke
9.North Carolina
10.Maryland
11.Kentucky
12.NC State
13.Pittsburgh
14.Iowa
15.Texas
16.Louisville
17.Arizona
18.Wisconsin
19.Michigan State
20.Florida
21.Gonzaga
22.Michigan
23.Virginia
24.Washington
25.Alabama

 

Rankings: 12/5

1: Kansas
2: Illinois
3: Gerorgia Tech
4: Wake Forest
5: UConn
6: Syracuse
7: Oklahoma State
8: North Carolina
9: Duke
10: Pittsburgh
11: Louisville
12: Kentucky
13: Michigan St.
14: Texas
15: NC State
16: Washington
17: Arizona
18: Maryland
19: Wisconsin
20. Bama
21: Mississippi St.
22: Virginia
23: Iowa
24: Notre Dame
25: Florida

Even though Florida lost to Miami(FL), I still feel thatn they are a top 25 team. Same for Notre Dame too...

 

44Thrilla's rankings

1. Illinois *
2. Kansas
3. Syracuse
4. OK State
5. G TECH
6. UNC
7. Duke
8. Wake
9. UCONN
10. Pitt
11. Kentucky
12. NC State
13. Miss. State
14. Maryland
15. Louisville
16. Washington
17. Wisconsin
18. Texas
19. Michigan State
20. Zona
21. Bama
22. Iowa
23. Virginia
24. Gonzaga
25. Notre Dame

 

1. Illinois
2. Georgia Tech
3. Kansas
4. Oklahoma State
5. Syracuse
6. Duke
7. Wake Forest
8. Connecticut
9. North Carolina
10. Pittsburgh
11. North Carolina State
12. Kentucky
13. Wisconsin
14. Iowa
15. Louisville
16. Texas
17. Cincinnati
18. Virginia
19. Maryland
20. Marquette
21. Oregon
22. Michigan State
23. Gonzaga
24. Washington
25. George Washington

Close Calls: Arizona, UCLA, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, Mississippi State, Alabama, and Southern Illinois

 

We still need rankings from STCBBall3, Moo2k4, and Shard.

 

I don't know why some of you guys are rating Washington over Gonzaga, Gonzaga beat UW and the Zags' only loss was to one of the best teams if not <u>the</u> best team in the nation (Illinois).


1. Illinois
2. Kansas
3. Syracuse
4. Georgia Tech
5. Oklahoma State
6. UConn
7. Wake Forest
8. Duke
9. North Carolina
10. N.C. State
11. Kentucky
12. Pittsburgh
13. Michigan State
14. Louisville
15. Maryland
16. Texas
17. Wisconsin
18. Mississippi State
19. Gonzaga
20. Arizona
21. Florida
22. Washington
23. Iowa
24. Cincinatti
25. Virginia

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know why some of you guys are rating Washington over Gonzaga, Gonzaga beat UW and the Zags' only loss was to one of the best teams if not the best team in the nation (Illinois).</div>

Well, you did the same thing with Iowa. They beat Texas and Louisville, and their only loss came to a top 10 team in UNC. Yet you have them #23 and Texas and Louisville way ahead of them.

Thanks for the heads up though, I didn't even think about that. I'm changing my rankings.

 

1. Illinois
2. Kansas
3. Georgia Tech
4. Syracuse
5. Duke
6. Oklahoma State
7. Wake Forest
8. North Carolina
9. UConn
10. Wisconsin
11. North Carolina State
12. Maryland
13. Kentucky
14. Pittsburgh
15. Iowa
16. Louisville
17. Texas
18. Michigan State
19. Virginia
20. Mississippi State
21. Washington
22. Alabama
23. Florida
24. Arizona
25. Cincinnati

Just out : Notre Dame, Memphis, Michigan, Gonzaga

 

1. Illinois
2. Syracuse
3. Kansas
4. Georgia Tech
5. UConn
6. Oklahoma State
7. Duke
8. UNC
9. Wisconsin
10. Wake Forest
11. Kentucky
12. Pitt
13. NC State
14. Iowa
15. Texas
16. Louisville
17. Maryland
18. Virginia
19. Michigan State
20. Mississippi State
21. Cinci
22. Florida
23. Texas A&M (lots of blowouts....granted they weren't good teams, they're beating who they're supposed to)
24. Oklahoma
25. Alabama

 

Woohoo! 100% Participation... that's a first. I'll tally these up and have them out when I get home tomorrow.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Woohoo! 100% Participation... that's a first. I'll tally these up and have them out when I get home tomorrow.</div>

Well....it's also only the second week...