ummmm what the f%$#

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  1. J-E-T-S 1083

    J-E-T-S 1083 The Original Jets Junkie

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    the Jets traded Sam Cowert to the Vikings for a 7th rounder. wat the hell are the jets thinking, hes worth more than that. Maybe its cap cutting but still get more than that :x :x
     
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    Thoth Sisyphus in training

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    The Dolphins only surrendered a 6th (I think) for Seau. So, its all relative [​IMG] I guess :cheesey:
     
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    good for the viks
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaBossMoss)</div><div class='quotemain'>good for the viks</div>

    Jets got the better deal. Cowart is past his prime. He is not the player he was 2 years ago, and that was just a good player. He is no longer an impact player. The 7th rd pick could possibly turn into a good player.
     
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    FLORIDA PACKER nfl-*****s member

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    Wow Seau was worth only a 6th rounder? That is ludicrous goood for the Fins however [​IMG] . Cowart has declined alot but damn! Why the Vikes? They are getting pretty stacked, What are we gonna do Bearsfan? Hope the Vikes flop again(even though they thumped us in the Post season [​IMG] ).
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow Seau was worth only a 6th rounder? That is ludicrous goood for the Fins however [​IMG] . Cowart has declined alot but damn! Why the Vikes? They are getting pretty stacked, What are we gonna do Bearsfan? Hope the Vikes flop again(even though they thumped us in the Post season [​IMG] ).</div>

    They arent that stacked. In fact they are getting old sorry veterans or young busts in front 7. They will not be able to stop run for shit, and no good teams are out thier that cant stop the run.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>They arent that stacked. In fact they are getting old sorry veterans or young busts in front 7. They will not be able to stop run for shit, and no good teams are out thier that cant stop the run.</div>


    Once again, BearsFan1 makes a poor assessment. I'd make a bet with him, but he's lost so many bets lately he has nothing left to give. [​IMG]

    This is a decent move by the Vikings. They need some veteran leadership for their linebacking corps. They have very talented players, but these players play out of position. When Henderson, Thomas, Harris are playing in their position and don't make mental mistakes, they are extremely good. We saw that from Henderson and Harris last year in the playoffs against the Packers. Cowart will be able to line them up and provide that leadership they need back there.

    As far as the front 4 portion, I really don't know what BF1 is talking about...we did not have the worst front 4 last season, and we haven't lost anything in the front 4 (other than Chris Hovan...and that was not a loss).
     
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    I'm not overly impressed w/ the moves Minnesota has made but somewhat agree w/ VF. If nothing else, Cowart will provide some veteran leadership.

    Pat Williams when teamed w/ Kevin Williams inside will be an upgrade for the run D.

    Its Smoot I have mixed feelings about. Antoine Winfield whom they signed last offseason is a much better CB.
     
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    Smoot is a bit of a gamble, and definitely not as good as Winfield. He has the upside of being a younger corner and shows quite a bit of promise, which is the big upside.

    I'm very happy with the offseason. I do think we could have done better at the linebacker position (losing A. Pierce was a big blow) and I wouldn't have minded seeing an upgrade on the defensive line, but we can improve there through the draft.
     
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    DP He shoots, he scores!

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    Y the H@%$ is everyone tradeing with the viks...Is the VIks GM threating to kill everyone(lol) I hope they get injured.....Back to the Topic_only a 6th round!!!! y thats bull S%*@
     
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    The minute you have to defend a player because he will provide leadership, is the same minute i realize that you cant defend the players production on the field. Production is all that counts his leadership means @#$!.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>The minute you have to defend a player because he will provide leadership, is the same minute i realize that you cant defend the players production on the field. Production is all that counts his leadership means @#$!.</div>

    I promise not to point out the Patriots have more "leaders" than "producers"
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>The minute you have to defend a player because he will provide leadership, is the same minute i realize that you cant defend the players production on the field. Production is all that counts his leadership means @#$!.</div>

    I promise not to point out the Patriots have more "leaders" than "producers"</div>

    No they have more producers, than they have credit for producing.
     
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    DP He shoots, he scores!

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    umm i think the pat are to stuck up..."there i said it and dont try to do anything because johanson there is a snitch"

    SIMPSONS!!!!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DaPackersGb)</div><div class='quotemain'>umm i think the pat are to stuck up..."there i said it and dont try to do anything because johanson there is a snitch"

    SIMPSONS!!!!</div>

    WTF are you babbling about!!! Everyday I come here read 10 of your posts and 9 of them make no sense whatsoever.
     
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    JustBry07 The Underdog

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    HAHA. BF1 you have a point there. I dont understand a lot of the shit that guy comes out with either.
     
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    LoL hahah
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>The minute you have to defend a player because he will provide leadership, is the same minute i realize that you cant defend the players production on the field. Production is all that counts his leadership means @#$!.</div>

    You really think this BF? Leadership plays a huge role in football, especially when you have a bunch of young players.
     
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    Bearsfan1 2 Time Defending FF Champion

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>The minute you have to defend a player because he will provide leadership, is the same minute i realize that you cant defend the players production on the field. Production is all that counts his leadership means @#$!.</div>

    You really think this BF? Leadership plays a huge role in football, especially when you have a bunch of young players.</div>

    There is only one good kind of leadership. Leadership by example. If you want a good leadership, get a productive player and then have the other players copy his work ethic. There is no need for grandpa sitting in the locker room telling stories of how back in his day they used to have to run 12 miles up hill in the snow to tackle someone. Getting an unproductive player to be there for "veteran leadership" means you are wasting a roster spot on someone who could be productive and help your team.
     
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    So you think Cowart is unproductive? I think he's proven that he can be a very productive player in this league. He is definitely on the downside of his career, but he still has the athletic ability to play and to play well.

    The most important part of taking him on, however, is his ability to get the younger players lined up correctly.

    I think it is a big assumption to say that he is unproductive, especially when he had a 140 tackle season just two years ago, and last year he was replaced by Vilma while he was hurt. There is no way to judge how good he really is.

    You have to admit that bringing a veteran player in who can still play, who can provide some leadership, and who knows the game will improve the younger players on the team, can't you?
     

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