Cheaney

This guy is a rock.

First of all, he has been the only shooter on our team. In December he has shot 17/32 (53%). He plays under control and actually knows how to score in a half court offense. On top of that, he forces a lot more turnovers than he commits (although firing the ball out of bounds could have been costly tonight).

His defense is unbelievable too. He doesn't make the jaw dropping plays that we see from Pietrus, but he defends like a dog, night in night out for every minute he's on the floor. Pierce's stat line looked pretty good tonight, 9-16 shooting with 26 points. But what I think was important was that he only played 31 minutes. The first reason for that was foul trouble. The second reason was Cheaney. Cheaney held him down and made him work his butt off for every point. By the middle of the 4th quarter, Pierce was so visibly tired that we stuck 38 year old Robinson on him, confident that Pierce couldn't get around him. Guess what? Pierce didn't hurt us down the stretch.

If you are a coach at any level you reward that kind of consistency and effort with minutes, I don't care what the slack-jawed KNBR hosts say. If you take away playing time from people like that, what kind of message does that send to your team? I guarantee the other players on the team are noticing Cal's performance. Tonight Richardson, of all people, drove to the hoop specifically to set up Cheaney for a wide open wing jumper.

I'm not arguing that Cheaney is the future of the team, we obviously have a lot of players on this team that one day could be a lot more talented than Cal has ever been. But let them earn their minutes. Cheaney is not going to be able to put up 30 minutes a night for the entire season. Hopefully by the time he slows down this year some of the young guys will have learned from his example and be ready to play with heart (Richardson, Dunleavey) or a level head (Richardson, Pietrus).

*digs in for the onslaught of Cheaney haters*

 

Let me step up as the first hater. I figure for all that love you must be family to the guy.

HE is the worst player on the team. Defense what? the guy is slower than dunleavy. I still can't figure what he has on Monty that gets him those minutes when clearly Pietrus should be on the floor instead of that clown.

What i hate the most about him is that he is a veteran but constantly makes rookie mistakes. CAse in point, the New Orleans game. Cheaney gets the rebound with a few seconds on the clock, instead of calling time out which virtually anyone from high school on up would have done, the moron panics and rushes to get a half court shot up. To make matters worse he steps out of bounds. So the hornets get an opportunity to win the game. That is why i nicknamed the guy "the towel". When Monty puts him in the game he is essentially throwing in the towel as fas as i can tell . Giving up on the game. The towel always has those turn overs where he panics with the ball and goes colorblind throwing it to the wrong team or like tonight to the third row.

i have been hoping Monty sees the light and puts the towel where he beongs . On the I.R. ..... i think he injured himself biting his tongue with that wad of gum he chews. So disgusting the guy chewing that wad with his mouth hanging open.

Biedrins should be active and learning on the floor, as well as Sesay, send Cheaney home.

Dunleavy has heart? what?....thanks for that laugh...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">CAse in point, the New Orleans game. Cheaney gets the rebound with a few seconds on the clock, instead of calling time out which virtually anyone from high school on up would have done, the moron panics and rushes to get a half court shot up. To make matters worse he steps out of bounds. So the hornets get an opportunity to win the game.</div>

Yeah, yeah, I remember that play.

1. We had no timeouts. I remember this distinctly because I thought to myself, "Why wouldn't he call timeout? We still had a few seconds left . . ." Then I looked up at the scoreboard and saw a big donut next to T.O. He calls timeout there, they shoot a technical, we lose.

2. We have caught the bad end of a LOT of calls this year, but that out of bounds was possibly the worst. When he was scrambling for that lose ball (what would have happened if a Hornet came up with it?) he got a nice little body bump out by the perimeter and his momentum carried him out of bounds. If the referees call the loose ball foul, we shoot freethrows for the win.

Regardless, we won, and he hit some big shots in that game.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy has heart? what?....thanks for that laugh...</div>

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear in that last part. What I was trying to say is that Dunleavy and Richardson don't play with heart. Also, that Richarson and Pietrus don't play with level heads. I was hoping they could learn a little of these things from Cheaney.

 

Last night he almost blew the game when he threw the ball into the stands.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Last night he almost blew the game when he threw the ball into the stands.</div>

Was Cheaney flawless? No.

Was his turnover any more costly than any in vast array of mistakes that Richardson made down the stretch? No.

Do I think Pietrus could have been more productive than Cheaney if he had gotten Cheaney's minutes? Yes. But I don't know that for sure. We won, I'm happy.

Do I think Pietrus is more valuable to player against Phoenix than against Boston? Absolutely. Pietrus and Sesay are essentially fully rested for tonight, and I like that.

 

He has a nice shot from the perimeter, but not much else. But he's nice in a game where outside shooting is king. But then again, basketball has turned out to be that way instead of whne the big men dominated the game going inside getting fouled and getting free throws. Murphy is pretty good at both. He hardly made any shots from the perimeter last night. He went inside and got fouled and as a result ogt fouled and made his free throws. Anyway, back to subject. I think Cheaney is alright but isn't some one the Warrirors should consider keeping for a long time. He doesn't have very good D and is getting real old, I mean even Murph is faster than Cheaney with and without the ball

 

I remember Calbert at Indiana. He is a smoother player who can hit the open jumper and create a little. He's come on in the past couple of games and is shooting pretty close to 50%. Calbert is a known commodity who is not prone to doing stupid things; although the New Orleans gaffe and last night's error were stupid.

I only wish that Dunleavy were getting some of Calbert's minutes but I think Monty likes Calbert's D.

 

Why isn't Pietrus getting any playing time tonight?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GSWScruff:</div><div class="quote_post">Was Cheaney flawless? No.

Was his turnover any more costly than any in vast array of mistakes that Richardson made down the stretch? No.

Do I think Pietrus could have been more productive than Cheaney if he had gotten Cheaney's minutes? Yes. But I don't know that for sure. We won, I'm happy.

Do I think Pietrus is more valuable to player against Phoenix than against Boston? Absolutely. Pietrus and Sesay are essentially fully rested for tonight, and I like that.</div>You sure ask yourself a lot of questions.

I am actually a fan of Cheany. Does he make stupid mistakes that make me want to pull my hair out? Sure but so does the rest of the Warriors. He is defensive oreinted and can drain the mid range shot. Thats all i care about. The guy plays with heart.

 

Fantastic question, and one that has me stumped anyway. The guy has been scoring at a pace of nearly a point a minute, and tonite he has not played a single damn minute. What the hell is going on? Does he dog it in practice? I find that hard to believe. Is Montgomery an idiot? I also find that hard to believe, but I am searching for answers.

 

^Yea I'm wondering the same thing. Even sesay is playing over him.

 

Rudeezy - I was doing my best Jim Tracy impersonation.

In response to questions about Pietrus, this probably has something to do with it:
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Montgomery called Pietrus a "wild card'' because of the second-year swingman's unpredictability on offense. In fact, Montgomery said the Warriors change their style with Pietrus on the court.

"If others are depending on set stuff, expecting him maybe to be some place, he may or may not be there,'' Montgomery said.</div>Chronicle Article

I don't know what to say, other than that I highly doubt we would have given up 20 straight points if Pietrus had been on the floor.

 

um...cheany is in his 11th nba season. this doesnt exactly make him young. hes not getting the minutes because they never know when hes gonna start sucking cuz of old age. they'd rather invest on younger players and give em more PT to gain experience

 

jtam101 - People are complaining because Cheaney HAS been getting a lot of minutes. I was defending those minutes.

 

montgomery is an idiot....how do you expect a player to learn without playing him a good 20 minutes at least, especially when he's the highest ceiling-ed player on your team and best defender

 

Pietrus is going to demand a trade and Mully will probably do it anyway whether he asks or not. Bet on it. Because Mully, realizing those contracts he signed during the offseason will make any chance of re-signing Pietrus impossible after he re-signs Dunleavy to some 8-10 mil ridiculous deal, Mullin will want something in return for Pietrus. I'm sorry but I feel like we're screwed no matter what we do and we'll be looking for a new coach in a couple of years.