Sprewell Caught Making A Vulgar Comment To Female Clippers Fan

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  1. Henacy

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    <font color="Red">Alright lets stick to Sprewell's comments and Sprewell as an indiviual because thats what this about. Once you start making insane comments grouping people together, thats when the thread gets off track. And will be closed - Henacy</font>
     
  2. Skriptz

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    where your from does take an effect on how you act, where you grew up and "how" and "who" you played ball with will take an effect towards your attitude on the court, and the bottom line is, there are many trash talking personalitys in the NBA that use profanity out of frustration or simply as a normal reaction to making a mistake or something, keep in mind that im not sayin all players are like this, however a bunch of them are.the basketball court is just a place where profanity is going to be used, the only reason fans hear it is because its so close to the court, you think hockey players and football players dont swear?, hell , tenniss players probably even let there anger out in profanity.....i jus dont think sprewells actions were that harsh, its jus talk, its not like he's threatening anyones life or family.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sitting in the row right behind Minnesota's bench, a female fan named Wendy quickly upbraided Spree, yelling back, "Watch your language, there are kids in this section!" Which there were. Spree should know that you shouldn't use obscenities around children, since he has about 16 of them. (I'm joking, he actually has three.) Of course, Spree glared at her and responded, "HEY, (BLEEP) YOU, BITCH!" Clearly, this is a league that knows how to reach its fans. For a second, Spree looked like he might charge into the stands before Sam Cassell came over to calm him down. </div>

    That's not harsh?
     
  4. Skriptz

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    ^^^????
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">That's not harsh?</div>


    Spree is a punk. Always has been a punk,and always will be a punk. When he was in college at Alabama there were always reports of him berading people (usually teammates) with bad language when he didn't get what he wanted. The Alabama fans didn't care for him for the way he always acted towards them and fans in general,he has always had that higher than thou aura. Nothing has changed. It's been associated with him since his college days,not just recent happenings or the recent past. Like I said,he's a punk..thats all there is to it.

    Has nothing to do with where you grew up,has everything to do with the type of person you are and clearly Spree thinks he is above everyone else...always has.
     
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    Yes it is harsh.. i am a die hard spree fan since back in the day.. but he shouldn't have said what he said.. its totally uncalled for.. HOWEVER there is a fine line between being professional and human.. understand that after spree's 97 incident there hasn't been a city where he isn't booed at, yelled and verbally abused and taunted.. so he reacts.. plain and simple. The fans are just as much in the wrong.. and as Spree said.. they should just shut the f*k up and they won't get a taunting back.. its a 2 way street, and no ammount of professionalism can make up for your pride. Same goes for Ron Artest and anyone else who appears "on the edge".. dont judge a man till you've stood in his shoes. But you over pay nba players, put thier posters on your walls, buy there jerseys and glorify them untill there egos burst THEN you sit back and expect them to act like saints.. 99% of the nba (put there game aside) are arrogant.. and i never wanted 2 admit it but ive come 2 grips with the fact that spree may be an arrogant person.. but i love his game since Golden State and his comeback triumph in New York. So i dont really care that he told someone to suck him off because there will always be issues like this in the nba.. as clean as you want the league to be.. you .. me.. we.. (the fans).. are part of the contribution that will always put a little dirt on the league.. so sit back.. relax.. and just watch the beauty of the game.. verbal profanities aren't going anywhere in a rush.. and spree got the suspension he deserved, so maybe he will learn.. maybe he wont.. but honestly, i love basketball enough to just sit.. watch.. and not care about anything else around me. This is all part of the game. Don't be so quick to judge ppl.. im sure u can all remember a time when u swore at someone uncalled for. Question the lack of human morale, not the professionalism of an athlete.. THEN we will be able to move forward with this issue.
     
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    You can't really justify what Ron and Spree have done recently or in the past. The bottom line is, they were in the wrong. They were also punished for their behavior.

    Fans however, need to stop thinking that they can heckle, abuse, and berate the players just because they pay to come to their games. I know this has been said before, but everyone has their own tolerance level, and everyone deserves a modicum of respect as a human being. I don't like this whole "they're overpaid to be professionals and these professionals cannot respond to anything from their fans." While to some degree this may be true, I think there's a time when the line has to be drawn. No one would stand for being hit in the face with flying beverages or being spit upon, having personal verbal attacks against them, etc. When the fans get out of hand, as they did in Detroit, the players will respond.

    I don't think slapping the players with fines and suspensions, even after Artest's season long one, will stop more fights and things of this nature from happening again. It's human nature in a way. You can never prevent the heat-of-the-moment reactions a person chooses to make, especially when things get crazy like the events that took place in Detroit. Sure, other preventatives can be instated to lessen the likelyhood of it happening, but I doubt that the suspensions the league is handing out left and right will really be the cure-all in itself. So while the suspensions of these guys can be supported as a punshiment (every wrong will have a consequence), I don't agree with the talk that the suspensions are necessary to restore order and protect the league from future skirmishes.
     
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    Spree was probably wrong in responding to the fan, cause you'd think he'd be used to it by now with all his years in the league.
    But a suspension is excessive. A fine would be appropriate.
     
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    I can understand that the league wants to clean it up, but if it continues, we'll never see another version of Reggie Miller and Spike Lee. Good times there.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">I can understand that the league wants to clean it up, but if it continues, we'll never see another version of Reggie Miller and Spike Lee. Good times there.</div>

    Come on.....Reggie vs Spike was the result of the fact that Reggie has historically killed the Knicks in the playoffs. It had nothing to do with Reggie losing his temper to hecklers, it had to do with Reggie being heckled because he performed well.

    I like players with attitude, but Spree can never seem to let his game speak for itself. Remember him cussing at the Knicks bench and GM last year? Everytime he gets traded he's sees the need to cuss out his old team everytime he scores on them. It shows that he is insecure and unprofessional IMO.
     
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    Does anyone know what the lady said to him? I don't think its right for fans to throw personal insults at players. But if its just light-hearted taunting, that's fine. Like chanting, "Spre-well, Spre-well." If I was in the stands and within shouting distance of him, I'd also want to call him on that stupid "got to feed my family" remark he made earlier in the season: "Hey Spree, you ain't going to be able to feed your family with the way your playing tonight!"
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I like players with attitude, but Spree can never seem to let his game speak for itself. Remember him cussing at the Knicks bench and GM last year? Everytime he gets traded he's sees the need to cuss out his old team everytime he scores on them. It shows that he is insecure and unprofessional IMO.</div>

    I do remember him cussing at the knicks bench last year. Funny how you don't find a 30 pt night (the most any former knick has scored against the team) and a win "letting his game speak for itself". Everyone from Kobe to Payton trashes.. Spree backs it up, and at 34 hes still performing at a very high level so let the man talk.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">If I was in the stands and within shouting distance of him, I'd also want to call him on that stupid "got to feed my family" remark he made earlier in the season: "Hey Spree, you ain't going to be able to feed your family with the way your playing tonight!"</div>

    If thats your attitude toward players you dislike why should his attitude be any different toward an annoying fan like yourself. Innapropriate behaviour works both ways.. stop degrading the image of fans while contradictorily begrudging the players.
     
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    ^^^agreed
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Spree:</div><div class="quote_post">I do remember him cussing at the knicks bench last year. Funny how you don't find a 30 pt night (the most any former knick has scored against the team) and a win "letting his game speak for itself". Everyone from Kobe to Payton trashes.. Spree backs it up, and at 34 hes still performing at a very high level so let the man talk.</div>

    I'm not questioning the man's talent. I'm just saying, why not leave the "talking" on the court? There's really no need to taunt a bench full of former teammates, they aren't the reason that he was traded. Cussing at your old team everytime you score doesn't prove anything except what type of person he is at times.

    Yeah, Payton is the master of trash talking, but he doesn't do it the way Spree does. When he returned to Seattle I think I remember him having a big game. Yet he saw no need to cuss at the organization. And actually, the Sonics were worse to GP than the Knicks were to Spree considering that GP personified a Sonic. But GP acted more maturely than Spree did.
     
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    You know it's not just about being professional or whatever. I mean these guys just need to take a step back and think about where they are in their lives. I mean being immature about the most mundane things is such a testament to how full of themselves some players are.

    If you're getting paid millions of dollars to "work" 8 months out of the year..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not questioning the man's talent. I'm just saying, why not leave the "talking" on the court? There's really no need to taunt a bench full of former teammates, they aren't the reason that he was traded. Cussing at your old team everytime you score doesn't prove anything except what type of person he is at times.

    Yeah, Payton is the master of trash talking, but he doesn't do it the way Spree does. When he returned to Seattle I think I remember him having a big game. Yet he saw no need to cuss at the organization. And actually, the Sonics were worse to GP than the Knicks were to Spree considering that GP personified a Sonic. But GP acted more maturely than Spree did.</div>

    Well yeh , your totally right and i agree with you. Spree cussing at his former organizations does show the person he is. I guess he just needs to cool it abit, but at the same time, that is the mans game. He feeds off controversy and fuels that energy on the court. He needs to be calmed by some team mates i think because he is having people (including me, his biggest fan) percieve him as a total hot head. But i guess like his former troubles, his on court play will over shadow his controversial comments and actions. But with regards to your comment on the trash talking, i agree.. his trash does contain alot more personal hatred than that of the bubble gum trash kobe & gp talk.
     
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    No one should be too surprised about this, this is after all Latrell Sprewell.
    Sure, in theory all NBA players should set a good example and show class on the court, but thats just not the way it is, and I dont see it ever becoming that way.
    I honesty believe that the players dont care, and i'm sure that after the Artest incident, that Spree didn't stop and think, "Hmmm, I have some serious anger-management issues, I should start thinking about that before I get myself into trouble"

    I love Sprewell, i've got his Knicks jersey that I break out when he is playing well, but you just got to recognize that hes a bit of a nutcase. I mean dont even make me get into his past, there's countless things that hes done, and the on the scale of things hes done, saying Suck My D*ck is nothing for him. And I think it should be nothing to everyone else. But in a time and age where people love to cry about BS like that,this is what has to happen.
    And it's even stupider since Spree was just replying to what the lady called him. He actually handled the situation well. He should have pulled an Artest on the bitch.

    So, sure it's a little innapropriate what Spree said, but in this day and age, it's nothing. If kids dont want to hear the "D word" then they shouldn't watch games or be in the audience. The players dont sign a contract saying that they have to put up with bullsh*t from fans so they shouldn't have too. I dont care that they are supposed to set a good example and neither do these players. That's just not the kind of world we're living in.
     
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    Anyone know what the lady said to him?

    Man, I'd sure as hell do what Sprewell did to the Knicks if I had a chance to play against the team which kicked me off...
     

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