Is he still playing point for the Raptors? He would be a great fit in the Lakers lineup and loves LA. He has had experience in dealing with big Egos and might help Rudy T( another Michigan guy) get his offense going. I know Toronto wants to package him with Carter, but I think thats too much contract for one team to take on. LA has a bunch of draft choices to offer along with bench players. Is Caron Butler and B. Grant enough for Carter and Rose salary wise? Maybe it will take getting humiliated on Christmas day to wake up the Laker's ownership and management to get some improvement on this Lottery team.
I don't consider the Lakers a lottery team, being 10-7. Plus, I'd rather have Butler than Rose and Carter BOTH.
Yeea man. Rose looks appealing at first, but his contract will always haunt the team that has him in the end.
Heart is not enough <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't consider the Lakers a lottery team, being 10-7. Plus, I'd rather have Butler than Rose and Carter BOTH.</div> Karl Malone is not coming now, the Lakers gave away the only potential scorer on the bench(Rush) along with any potential trade bait he may have had, lost to the Bulls, and accept for a miracle will be blown out by the Suns tonight. I hate to be negative, but so far, every move this team has made since Shaq's trade has been in the words of Walton....horrrrible. If Portland gets Kidd or Carter and the Lakers don't or can't make a move, can you honestly see the Lakers better than any of eight teams in the west. Kobe cannot do it alone, and unless he shuts up no one will want to play with him. I hope the lakers make a statement tonight, but honestly I don't think they have the players to stay with Phoenix or any of the top teams in the west.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatthef?:</div><div class="quote_post">Karl Malone is not coming now, the Lakers gave away the only potential scorer on the bench(Rush) along with any potential trade bait he may have had, lost to the Bulls, and accept for a miracle will be blown out by the Suns tonight. I hate to be negative, but so far, every move this team has made since Shaq's trade has been in the words of Walton....horrrrible. If Portland gets Kidd or Carter and the Lakers don't or can't make a move, can you honestly see the Lakers better than any of eight teams in the west. Kobe cannot do it alone, and unless he shuts up no one will want to play with him. I hope the lakers make a statement tonight, but honestly I don't think they have the players to stay with Phoenix or any of the top teams in the west. </div> Malone isn't the answer to our prayers. All he wants is a ring...that's all. He found a way to bail out. Rush is our only potential scorer off the bench? Haha...how about Cook, Jones, Tierre...these guys can score more than Rush has all season long. Rush's season has been disappointing in LA...and that's why he was traded. Kobe has "shut up" all throughout the off-season and regular season. He's kept his mouth shut and took the high road. What does that have to do with guys wanting to play in LA? If Kidd doesn't want to throw lobs to Kobe and rack up his assists column, he's crazy. The Lakers are in the 6th-8th spot in the West right now...which is okay by me. It's early in the season. Some teams will slow down, but the Lakers can only get better as long as they keep playing each game like a team. They are a brand new team, brand new coach, brand new offense...almost like a damn expansion team, really...yet, we aren't sitting at the bottom of the West. Right now, if we were in the East, we'd be in the top four seeds with who we'd be playing. Why take Carter and Rose? Neither are doing anything. Carter is tough...he's inconsistent though...and wouldn't share shots with Kobe. Same with Rose. The Lakers are fine. They need to all get on the same page, and then they'll start winning more. If that takes a year, it's okay...but we will make the playoffs, no doubt in my mind.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe cannot do it alone, and unless he shuts up no one will want to play with him. </div> I guess you're buying into the theory that Kobe in the reason Malone isn't coming to the Lakers. If Malone plannned on coming to the Lakers he would have signed the contract in the offseason and been on the Laker bench in street clothes supporting the team until he fully recovered from his injury. Malone wants a ring plain and simple. The Lakers aren't winning a ring this year and he knows that. He's using Kobe's comments as a cop out. Malone is sitting back waiting to see which teams looks the best so he can sign with the team he feels has the best chance of winning a championship.
Lakers will not be a lottery team they will make the playoffs. After I seen them play one of the best teams yesterday and only losing by 2.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Cash-Money:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers will not be a lottery team they will make the playoffs. After I seen them play one of the best teams yesterday and only losing by 2.</div> Do you think Kobe can score 42 each night? that tehy can shoot the 3point shot like that everynight? i dont think so.. Lakers are a 3point shootin team, if they're hot they're great, if they're cold.. that's not goin so well
Well Kobe might not score42 a night but since he averages 27 he could put 30 7 7 a night and others will eventually help him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you think Kobe can score 42 each night? that tehy can shoot the 3point shot like that everynight? i dont think so.. Lakers are a 3point shootin team, if they're hot they're great, if they're cold.. that's not goin so well</div> Right... Kobe doesn't need to score 42 every night. They can win when he scores less. Well and they can lose when he scores more too.. The point that you tried to make, doesn't make sense though, 'cause I'm pretty sure the Lakers will make the play-offs. To Real Deal : You can't be serious you prefer Butler before Rose and Carter. When Vinsanity is on the top of his game(which he wasn't in Toronto, and yes, I think that's the fault of Mitchell) I still consider him as a top 10 player. Rose is a big scorer, a good passer and a steady veteran. So it's your pick : Potential top 10 player and Good Role Player for a Good Roll Player. But now I realise that it isn't possible to trade for Carter and Rose, so I'm getting totally off-subject here. The deal would be great for the Lakers,'cause like I said, Rose can contribute.I've never been a big fan of him, because of his lack of hustle and lack of leadership but he has been a great player and still is pretty good IMO. I'm not sure whether I should trade him for Caron, but I should definitely trade him for Brian Grant(How that works out contract-wise, I don't know either) Brian isn't very happy that he'll be the second-string center and doesn't have a chance of being the starting PF since Butler is forced to move from his natural position, the SF. It'd be a good trade for both teams, Perimeter offense for the Lakers, and a better PG when I think of it, and in Toronto, Grant can teach Bosh some dirty tricks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When Vinsanity is on the top of his game(which he wasn't in Toronto, and yes, I think that's the fault of Mitchell) I still consider him as a top 10 player.</div> What? maybe 3 years ago, but not now. Right now, he is an overpaid injury prone SG with low trade value (see what Raps got for him from NJ) who averages 15 ppg and play with no heart. Caron Butler is younger and cheaper. The last thing LA needs is Carter--cancerous presence.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting UrbanLegend:</div><div class="quote_post">What? maybe 3 years ago, but not now. Right now, he is an overpaid injury prone SG with low trade value (see what Raps got for him from NJ) who averages 15 ppg and play with no heart. Caron Butler is younger and cheaper. The last thing LA needs is Carter--cancerous presence.</div> No, also last year. He averaged 22, 5, 4. That's a top 10 player right there! Because of his low pt and his unhappiness in Canada, he just couldn't give himself 100 %. Look, I'm not a Carter fan. I'm actually more of a hater.But the guy still does some pretty impressive things, and with a good coach like Frank, he could turn in a Top 10 player again, after the trade.
He's not worth it...Odom>Rose, and they both are technically the same player...long, rangy forwards who can score, pass and rebound, altho both have streaky jump shots, but Odom is the more consistent and valuable of the two...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">give us lamar odom + caron butler and we will throw in donyell marshall as well.</div> lakers wouldnt even give up mihm who isnt better than odom straight up for rose.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">I would actually hesitate to trade Brian Grant for Rose.</div> The only thing you wouldn't do that is because of Grant's hair Seriously, Rose is more of value than Grant, the way he's playing right now.
why does everyone always talk about Jalens contract hes such a good player his contract is perfect becuase he can easily average 20 ppg
