<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jenike:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree. I'm sure Mitchell did not call a play that has Milt dribble the ball for 20 seconds. He drew up a High Pick n` Roll. Milt and CB4 couldn't get their timing, and Milt dribbled the ball around instead of passing the ball. Milt does have an ability to get to the net, but he rarely finishes, and now teams know he can't pass so it makes his drives pretty much useless.</div>I too am sure Mitchell didn't call a play w/ Milt dribbling the ball for 20 seconds, but he did elect to go with Milt controlling the offense instead of Alston. That's why he was the one at fault.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dunksworth:</div><div class="quote_post">I too am sure Mitchell didn't call a play w/ Milt dribbling the ball for 20 seconds, but he did elect to go with Milt controlling the offense instead of Alston. That's why he was the one at fault.</div> So when Mitchell draws a play for Vince to drive to the basket but he misses an off balance three, it's mitchell's fault because Vince did something other than what the play called for? All the coach can do is draw up the play, it's upto the players to execute.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jenike:</div><div class="quote_post">So when Mitchell draws a play for Vince to drive to the basket but he misses an off balance three, it's mitchell's fault because Vince did something other than what the play called for? All the coach can do is draw up the play, it's upto the players to execute.</div>Your analogy does not co-relate with my statement. A more accurate analogy using your scenerio would have Mitchell drawing a play for Loren Woods to drive to the basket.... but results in an inevitable turnover. Who's fault would it be now, Mitchell's or Wood's?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dunksworth:</div><div class="quote_post">Your analogy does not co-relate with my statement. A more accurate analogy using your scenerio would have Mitchell drawing a play for Loren Woods to drive to the basket.... but results in an inevitable turnover. Who's fault would it be now, Mitchell's or Wood's?</div> So with Milt being our point guard, it doesn't make sense for Mitchell to draw a play for Milt to handle the ball? I can see why he did it. Rafer is a much better outside shooter, so he draws a play with Milt handling the ball and Rafer at the shooting guard. It's Milt's job to get rid of the ball. Not Mitchell's. I don't see this being Mithcell's fault whatsoever. Loren Woods driving to the net doesn't make sense because Loren is a center and is not suppose to have those skills. Milt is a point guard so he is supposed to be able to drive and dish. I don't understand your point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jenike:</div><div class="quote_post">Loren Woods driving to the net doesn't make sense because Loren is a center and is not suppose to have those skills. Milt is a point guard so he is supposed to be able to drive and dish. I don't understand your point.</div>Okay maybe using Woods in the example was a little far-fetched on my part. So instead picture this; After a timeout in OT, Mitchell draws a play for L. Murray to drive to the basket so he can either draw the defense in and dish it to an open man or take it straight to the rack. Carter was also in the line-up at that time. What results is Murray driving to the basket as planned but elects to take a fade-away jumper instead. Now in this scenerio, Murray is a sf and is capable of attacking the basket and drawing the defense in, but is it a wise decision on the coach's part to use him instead of using Carter(who's more capable at running that play)? So would it be fair to place all the blame on Murray and let Mitchell off the hook? Now in the Piston game, we had Milt and Alston on the floor at the same time. One is the more creative and capable point guard while the other isn't nearly as creative or capable at running the point. Keep in mind that we are facing the reigning nba champs on their home court in OT and Milt is the type of pg who would fall prey to a defense like this one (he struggles in a half-court setting whereas Detroit's excellent defense flurishes in this kind of setting). Now wouldn't logic tell you to let Alston run the offense instead of Palacio? Alston is the better shooter so you're right, he is better than Milt at playing the 2, but with the game on the line in OT you MUST let the guy who is better at handling the ball and creating for his teammates run the point. Milt was given a much more pivotal role as a point guard in those sequences and the more capable pg was assigned a less significant role. What's the logic behind that?
He shouldn't of let Milt on the floor, but if he was u cant blame Mitchell for what Milt did. They were doing pick and rolls and needed shooters to spread the floor, and Milt certainly cant spread the floor.
^ if he wanted to spread the floor, then why not have MoPete, Murray, or Rose (I can't remember who was at 3 at that moment) play the 2 and Alston run the offense? My point is that this was a game that was on the line against the best defensive team in the league, so they can't afford to have Milt orchestrating the offense in such a highly stressful situation.
geez man u guys are rediculous.. i cant believe how stupid some people are.. palacio has probably the best mentality on teh raptors.. he breaks down the defence so consistantly.. and he was always able to make a lay up he rarely EVER missed layups last year and this year as well.. its a big surprise when he does.. he also dunks on the break as well. some ppl are so dumb do you not see him coming off the bench and dropping 18... he always looks to drive cuz he knows his shot is not very effective, he utilizes the skill he has and does a great job of being fearless and attacking the rim. he is not a flashy player, he is an average passer, only thing i seen was a few tiems this eason he kills the shot clock too much but its not all for nothing.. the whole time he is dribbling looking for a hole in the defence to get in to make a layup.. he is very underrated.. he is having a great year shooting almost 50 percent..
Palacio has developed a much-improved shot. We should learn to utilize his shooting capabilities by playing him off the ball. When he has the ball in his hands, good things do not happen. My whole image of him was tarnished by the Detroit game. Dribbling away the shot clock and costing a win? He should be an undersized combo guard, rather than a point guard.
What Mitchell tried to do was let Rafer spot up for a trey or a two while Palacio drives and dishes because at that point of the game, he did have 6 points and 6 assists and Mitchell certainly believed he could count on Milt penetrating and allowing others to spot up. They had Milt, Rafer, Lamond, Marshall and Bosh playing and obviously with Rose shooting 5-16, Carter in the locker room, and Mo-Pete shooting 1-5 (0-3 beyond the threepoint line) Mitchell thought who they had on the floor were the best options. Milt screwed up the first time, Mitchell gave him another chance (which I think he shouldn't have) and he screwed up again, that's what happened, period.
