He was brought in for his 3pt shot but he's only shooting 29%-3PT in 22 games. I think everybody was praising SA for bringing in Brent Barry and now everyone forgot about him and why they even brought him in for. He just looks like another player coming off the bench rather than the 3PT specialist he was being hyped up to be. Do you think he's been a bust so far? Should SA look for another 3PT shooter to add to it's lineup?
I really like Brent Barry. The Spurs say they aren't mad and don't regret signing him, neither do I as a Spurs fan. They know what he's capable of, not only as a 3pt shooter but as a passer and team player. He's having trouble adjusting to the new system, but all he needs is time. I personally think he will live up to the praise and hype, given a little more time to get his bearings. You can't dispute the fact that his performance so far as been less than good. But, I don't think the Spurs should or would even think to sign another three point shooter to team. Especially since Devin, Beno, Parker, Manu, and Bowen all have had some heat from downtown on occassion so far this season. They've been good enough to get it done in the drive and kick plays.
In Seattle, Brent handled the ball a lot, in SA he's basically become a stand-still shooter... good players lose their effectiveness that way much like Gary Payton last year on the Lakers. SA should look for players who're good at that, like Kyle Korver, but it's unlikely the Sixers would part with him.
Different team, different system and new coaching. You also need to factor in the play of Devin Brown is to why bones's minutes have been limited. Devin has played very well so far this season and It is hard for minutes to be spread around. I'm sure come 2nd half of the season Barry will still clicking and earn more minutes.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Miami's Finest:</div><div class="quote_post">He was brought in for his 3pt shot but he's only shooting 29%-3PT in 22 games. I think everybody was praising SA for bringing in Brent Barry and now everyone forgot about him and why they even brought him in for. He just looks like another player coming off the bench rather than the 3PT specialist he was being hyped up to be. Do you think he's been a bust so far? Should SA look for another 3PT shooter to add to it's lineup?</div> You dont know anything about the Spurs If you did you wouldnt care if Barry was shooting 29% its about how the team is playing without the 3-ball imagine if Barry were to hit over 40% then the Spurs will be 22-0,but he's not and the Spurs are still off to a franchise best 18-4.What makes Barry a perfect fit in SA is because he already knows the Spurs system and that's one reason why he wanted to play for SA. He'll come through when they need him the most PLAYOFFS
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_greatest#23:</div><div class="quote_post">You dont know anything about the Spurs If you did you wouldnt care if Barry was shooting 29% its about how the team is playing without the 3-ball imagine if Barry were to hit over 40% then the Spurs will be 22-0,but he's not and the Spurs are still off to a franchise best 18-4.What makes Barry a perfect fit in SA is because he already knows the Spurs system and that's one reason why he wanted to play for SA. He'll come through when they need him the most PLAYOFFS</div> Dude Back off, this was a logical question, no need to give a response like that at all. Barry has struggled so far and many Spurs fans expected better but I'm sure he will pick It up. The fact is the Spurs have been looking for a replacement for Stephen Jackson for a couple of years now, that time however hasn't come yet. Maybe Bones will be that guy but so far he hasn't earned his minutes.
Brent Barry spreads the defense (freeing up TD), and helps break down the zone D by hitting threes. I think he serves his purpose.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">He knows plenty and this was a logical question, no need to response like that at all. Barry has struggled so far and many Spurs fans expected better but I'm sure he will pick It up. The fact is the Spurs have been looking for a replacement for Stephen Jackson, that time however hasn't come yet. Maybe Bones will be that guy but so far he hasn't earned his minutes.</div> WHAT? so are you telling me that Barry is a bust? ok then whats wrong with what i said? I'm responding to the question that was give Is Barry a Bust what do you think I gave my best answer that any real Spurs fan would give yeah he's not shooting good but look at the Teams record who cares! If they were losing then maybe you can bring this subject up. The Spurs found a replacement in Ginobili,Brown,Horry they forgot about Jackson along time ago.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_greatest#23:</div><div class="quote_post">WHAT? so are you telling me that Barry is a bust? ok then whats wrong with what i said? I'm responding to the question that was give Is Barry a Bust what do you think I gave my best answer that any real Spurs fan would give yeah he's not shooting good but look at the Teams record who cares! If they were losing then maybe you can bring this subject up. The Spurs found a replacement in Ginobili,Brown,Horry they forgot about Jackson along time ago.</div> I dont know if it's your computer or what. But could you please stop typing like this? You do it in every forum in every post that you make. It is annoying. You could say that he's a "bust" sure, but he also has a new role. Houston fans could also argue that Tmac is a bust but he.....oh wait . But you get my point. Is Shaq a bust this year? Is Steve Nash a bust? I agree with you that Barry is doing what he needs to, but the guy provided a legit case, no need to insult him simply because you are a Spurs fan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_greatest#23:</div><div class="quote_post">WHAT? so are you telling me that Barry is a bust? ok then whats wrong with what i said? I'm responding to the question that was give Is Barry a Bust what do you think I gave my best answer that any real Spurs fan would give yeah he's not shooting good but look at the Teams record who cares! If they were losing then maybe you can bring this subject up. The Spurs found a replacement in Ginobili,Brown,Horry they forgot about Jackson along time ago.</div> No I don't think Barry is a bust, but he has been a big dissapointment so far this year. After shooting 45% from three last year, I expected teaming up with Duncan would increase his game, not decrease. The fact is he is going to have to earn his minutes back, otherwise he won't look as great a signing as orginally thought. You saying the topic starter doesn't know anything about the Spurs just because he asked a question If he is a bust after Spurs signing him is wrong, Miami's Finest didn't say he was a bust or wouldn't be good this season, he was clearly asking If people think he will be successful or not. You can't point and say just because the Spurs record is so good that Brent Barry's poor shooting is not a problem because It is. People who watched the playoffs last season would know. The only thing thats holding the Spurs back in the post season is outside shooting, Hedo was terrible in the playoffs from deep which basically cost the Spurs a chance at a ring, this year wether It's the Wolves, Suns, Kings or whoever, they will pack in the paint and make life tough for Duncan which means the Spurs must find consistant shooters. Which is why Barry was brought In. If he isn't clicking then the Spurs will be in trouble come playoff time. Thats reality. You say people have forgot about Sjax but he was the one guy who would hit open shots at key time during the playoffs, Spurs must find another guy who can do that. Barry is expecting to be that guy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont know if it's your computer or what. But could you please stop typing like this? You do it in every forum in every post that you make. It is annoying. You could say that he's a "bust" sure, but he also has a new role. Houston fans could also argue that Tmac is a bust but he.....oh wait . But you get my point. Is Shaq a bust this year? Is Steve Nash a bust? I agree with you that Barry is doing what he needs to, but the guy provided a legit case, no need to insult him simply because you are a Spurs fan.</div> Oh so you got a problem with my typing deal with! Yeah it makes me mad when people go to other teams and talk about a player and all they do is watch highlights on ESPN If you dont know anything about a team then why are you going to go into some other room and argue about a player that you dont know about? Can you answer that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">No I don't think Barry is a bust, but he has been a big dissapointment so far this year. After shooting 45% from three last year, I expected teaming up with Duncan would increase his game, not decrease. The fact is he is going to have to earn his minutes back, otherwise he won't look as great a signing as orginally thought. You saying the topic starter doesn't know anything about the Spurs just because he asked a question If he is a bust after Spurs signing him is wrong, Miami's Finest didn't say he was a bust or wouldn't be good this season, he was clearly asking If people think he will be successful or not. You can't point and say just because the Spurs record is so good that Brent Barry's poor shooting is not a problem because It is. People who watched the playoffs last season would know. The only thing thats holding the Spurs back in the post season is outside shooting, Hedo was terrible in the playoffs from deep which basically cost the Spurs a chance at a ring, this year wether It's the Wolves, Suns, Kings or whoever, they will pack in the paint and make life tough for Duncan which means the Spurs must find consistant shooters. Which is why Barry was brought In. If he isn't clicking then the Spurs will be in trouble come playoff time. Thats reality. You say people have forgot about Sjax but he was the one guy who would hit open shots at key time during the playoffs, Spurs must find another guy who can do that. Barry is expecting to be that guy.</div> Okay if you dont think Barry is a bust then why tell me to calm down and get of "miami's back" I know that Barry is going to come through but its only 20 games into the season what is there to prove the Spurs are shooting great as a team 34.9% Beno is stepping up as a shooter as well as Brown,so i dont think you should aske that question "NOW" maybe during the playoffs or late in the season.Hedo was a bust in the playoffs and they got rid of him they played against LA who then had the best Center so they needed a shooter.who is going to stop TD now that Shaq is out of the West Garnett HA! Weber Yeah right,Yao sure if your Dallas.The Spurs are not going to need the deep ball because it going to go inside everytime,so if you still think that they need a 3-point shooter then your wrong. Oh in 2003 i think the Spurs had some great shooters that year and it wasnt Sjax (Steve Kerr,Speedy Claxton,Steve Smith) who shot better that SJAX.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay if you dont think Barry is a bust then why tell me to calm down and get of "miami's back" I know that Barry is going to come through but its only 20 games into the season </div> Because you told another poster he doesn't know anything about the Spurs when he was clearly only trying to get some disussion going about a player who has clearly struggled <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">what is there to prove the Spurs are shooting great as a team 34.9% Beno is stepping up as a shooter as well as Brown,so i dont think you should aske that question "NOW" maybe during the playoffs or late in the season</div> It's good that they are shooting the ball well now but can they do It in March/April time is the key and to continue It all the way through to june. People thought the shooting was fine heading into the post season last year but that was not the case v L.A <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">who is going to stop TD now that Shaq is out of the West Garnett HA! Weber Yeah right,Yao sure if your Dallas.The Spurs are not going to need the deep ball because it going to go inside everytime,so if you still think that they need a 3-point shooter then your wrong. </div> No one can stop Tim but those teams are sure going to try and by doing so will double him in the post and therefore leaving the guards open. Two years ago when teams packed the paint the Spurs guards knocked down the open shots and those teams tried more to face Duncan straight up. Last year v L.A they gave the Spurs wide open jump shots and they clanked them. The Spurs went inside everytime last year but obviously they didn't win the NBA title because the shooters kept missing. The west elite aren't dumb, they know what Duncan can do and they know he is unguardable one on one which is why they take the risk of making the role players beat them. Which the Spurs couldn't do last year. Duncan will get his stats no matter what because he is that damn good but he will need help from the role players to knock down open shots. If you think all the Spurs will need to do come playoff time is to get the ball to Tim and let him destroy everyone you are in for a surprise. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh in 2003 i think the Spurs had some great shooters that year and it wasnt Sjax (Steve Kerr,Speedy Claxton,Steve Smith) who shot better that SJAX.</div> Speedy wasn't a spot up shooter, he broke down defenses really well which gave the rest of the team more options. Steve Smith basically never played and Steve Kerr was used rarely.Although when he played he did alot of damage in game 6 of the conference finals but apart from that he was hardly used. It was basically Jackson knocking down big shots late in the games that gave teams less reason to double Duncan inside which therefore played the Spurs straight up. Also that year Parker, Bowen and Manu also knocked down open shots consistantly, which they for some reason didn't do last year.
Aw man I didn't no he was only shooting 29% from the arc. But San Antonio is still doing very well. His lack of playing time due to his non defensive play is what's most likely messing up his rhythm. But he still better then Hedo was last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the_greatest#23:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh so you got a problem with my typing deal with! Yeah it makes me mad when people go to other teams and talk about a player and all they do is watch highlights on ESPN If you dont know anything about a team then why are you going to go into some other room and argue about a player that you dont know about? Can you answer that?</div> Calm down, fam. If you feel a certain way about your Spurs then that is fine, but just b/c you feel the way that you do, doesn't mean that your viewpoints are facts. It's your opinion and you are entitled to them. I have had an opportunity to watch Bones play a bunch the last five years in Seattle and he brings a lot of things to the table that don't come up in the box score. He is one of the top teammates in the league b/c he is a selfless guy who has a great feel for the game. I believe that he is partly responsible for the developments of players such as Beno Udrith and Devin Brown b/c he is known for really going out of his way to help younger players. Is he playing well right now? No, I think that he is struggling and I'm guessing that Brent understands that he isn't playing well too. But I'm not going to label him a bust when we are only a quarter of the way through the season. Seems a bit premature.
I don't see why "The_Greatest" is overcome with rage. I have gone to other teams forums and have discussed how they feel regarding a player or situation that they specifically follow because they can give me insight. And did the person who posted the thread claim to be a "Real" Spurs fan.
FIRST OF ALL I'M TIERED OF FANS FROM OTHER TEAMS VIEWING THERE OPINON ON SOME THING THEY NOW NOTHING ABOUT and i dont go in SEATTLE OR DENVER and talk about how a player is play'n on thier team when i dont know nothing about them,yeah i can watch ESPN and say "Well that guy sucks because he missed a dunk" NO thats not what i do and i hate when people talk about players they dont know so if you want to tell me Brent Barry isn't going to make a difference then fine THATS YOUR OPINON If its wrong to step up for my team then i dont know whats right i reply to things that i agree with or dont agree with and for this thread i didnt agree with him even if it was an opinon or not i made it so he understands that the comment he made is wrong and if you didnt agree with me fine as long as i made my point heard So get off my sack if you dont like me F#@% U i'm not try'n to make friends i'm doing the same thing every one else is and thats make a statement on why the Spurs are going to need Barry THATS IT
my sources say Brent Barry is on his way out in San Antonio. Expect him to be shipped right around the trade deadline.
