The Raps are hitting their free throws and shooting the ball pretty good. Not that exciting of a game thus far.
if jim todd was the coach on this team, i think the raps might have won 5 more games. our team is so disorganized: we have a high school offense and play defense like elementary school kids.
Jalen Rose is an idiot, end of story, that was the stupidest play I've seen in my life, let me pumpfake 7 times and shoot a shot off the backboard, no one was moving anyways, but Jalen wasn't looking to pass. With Carter gone, Lammond is probably our best option in crunch time. Jalen had a good game offensively till that point, and what did I tell you guys, it's not Bosh's time to shine yet, 12 points [5-12], 3 rebounds and 3 turnovers, meh....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Jalen Rose is an idiot, end of story, that was the stupidest play I've seen in my life, let me pumpfake 7 times and shoot a shot off the backboard, no one was moving anyways, but Jalen wasn't looking to pass. With Carter gone, Lammond is probably our best option in crunch time. Jalen had a good game offensively till that point, and what did I tell you guys, it's not Bosh's time to shine yet, 12 points [5-12], 3 rebounds and 3 turnovers, meh....</div> yeah i was thinking of devoting a thread to lammond tonight after i got home from exams but as soon i got home i found about vince being dealt and this would be the right time. yeah, lammond is becoming my favourite raptor; he's the best passer, most unselfish, excellent rebounder, smart player and his defense is alright this year. i remember him saying that he needed to play 20 regular season games for him to get his legs because of the injury problems and to his credit i'm seeing takeoff at that point.
Still too early to say anything. But Jalen's decision in the dying seconds is the move to be recognized as the stupidest moments in sports history. With Carter gone, he's officially trying to take over the Raptors with his selfish play and it will not do any good to either Bosh or anyone else. og15, what you failed to realize is that Bosh only received 12 touches tonight compared to 21 touches he had versus the Wolves, thanks to Rose hogging the freakin' ball. In the turnover department he also had 3 versus the Wolves.
Jalen Rose is trying to b the franchise without Carter but he has to realize that Bosh is Hier Canada so he has to give Bosh some touches
3 turnovers on 21 shots isn't bad, 3 turnovers on 12 shots is bad. Shooting 11-21 is great, shooting 5-12 is bad. Grabbing 14 rebounds in 40 minutes is good, grabbing 3 rebounds in 32 minutes is bad. Why would you get more shots if you aren't making your shots? 12 shots and 6 FT attempts are higher than his season average anyways. Some people get way too ahead of themselves, he has one good game but hasn't been consistent the 3 weeks before that and they expect him to 20-10 every game and consistently be the first option on the team. I'd rather have had Jalen hog today shooting 52.9% than Bosh shooting 41.6%. Jalen is an idiot, but he had a better game offensively.
I say bench that fker. Here's an interesting stat. -Rose scores 100.1 points per every 100 possessions and gives up 112.6 points. -When he is on the bench however, the team scores 111.9 points per 100 possessions and gives up only 99.9 points. -When Rose is on the court, the Raps have been outscored 17 times and in only 4 outings with Rose on the court, the Raps have outscored the opponent.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">3 turnovers on 21 shots isn't bad, 3 turnovers on 12 shots is bad. Shooting 11-21 is great, shooting 5-12 is bad. Grabbing 14 rebounds in 40 minutes is good, grabbing 3 rebounds in 32 minutes is bad. Why would you get more shots if you aren't making your shots? 12 shots and 6 FT attempts are higher than his season average anyways. Some people get way too ahead of themselves, he has one good game but hasn't been consistent the 3 weeks before that and they expect him to 20-10 every game and consistently be the first option on the team. I'd rather have had Jalen hog today shooting 52.9% than Bosh shooting 41.6%. Jalen is an idiot, but he had a better game offensively.</div> I think Bosh is a type of player that needs to get touches to be effective on both sides of the court, and Rose is becoming a road block for not only Bosh, but other players such as Peterson and Alston. I mean sure, Rose had the hot hand on the floor but the guy took 17 shots compared to Peterson's 8 shots and Alston's 9. That's one guy taking the combined total of the other two starters. It was almost as if Rose said "Okay you two aren't making your shots so you ain't getting the ball back when you pass it to me." I still remember when Rose had Bonner wide open in the left corner and he elected not to pass and instead go for a tough shot against a double team, the shot went in and all was good but what if the shot didn't go in? That kind of thing is what breaks down team chemistry. The guy has one, ONE assist and no fouls in 36 minutes of playing time, and that is just not a good sign because it shows he was being a non-factor on defense outside of being extremely selfish in shot selection. Who cares if he makes 52.9% of shots he takes if he gives up more than he scores? I still can't believe Reggie Miller made that shot but again, who was guarding him? Rose. I'm not saying Bosh is a 20-10 guy, at least not yet. But he would've had a better game if Rose wasn't being a pig. We know what Rose can do already, so let us find out what Bosh can do.
Easy there tiger, anyone who's heavier than 260 lbs in a one on one match is > Chris Bosh, it's not a special accomplishment these days, but Harrison was playing Loren Woods. <u>Per 40 minutes:</u> David Harrison: 12.0 PPG, 6.7 RPG [we complain about Bosh's rebounding, but this is just sad], 0.7 APG, 0.7 steals, 3.17 blocks, 3.17 turnovers, 6.3 fouls, TS% - .560 DH per 40 as a starter: 14.0 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 0.56 APG, 0.6 SPG, 3.29 BPG, 2.83 turnover, 5.2 fouls, TS% - .583 Chris Bosh: 15.0 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.7 APG, 1.14 SPG, 1.10 BPG, 2.77 turnovers, 3.3 fouls, TS% - .501 Yea Harrison is great, Bosh just beats David Harrison in everything stat per minute except blocks per game. He scores more, rebounds more, fouls less, get's more assists, get's less turnovers, more steals, so let's just take it easy there. Don't even make this comparison ever again unless DH starts averaging 17 and 10 and is capable of actually staying in the game. Bosh is also 2 years younger and has All-Star potential while Harrison has at most soid big man potential Every lottery player picked after 8th > Araujo, now that's more reasonable, but Araujo is coming into his own, he almost clapped while on the bench today.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Easy there tiger, anyone who's heavier than 260 lbs in a one on one match is > Chris Bosh, it's not a special accomplishment these days, but Harrison was playing Loren Woods. <u>Per 40 minutes:</u> David Harrison: 12.0 PPG, 6.7 RPG [we complain about Bosh's rebounding, but this is just sad], 0.7 APG, 0.7 steals, 3.17 blocks, 3.17 turnovers, 6.3 fouls, TS% - .560 DH per 40 as a starter: 14.0 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 0.56 APG, 0.6 SPG, 3.29 BPG, 2.83 turnover, 5.2 fouls, TS% - .583 Chris Bosh: 15.0 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.7 APG, 1.14 SPG, 1.10 BPG, 2.77 turnovers, 3.3 fouls, TS% - .501 Yea Harrison is great, Bosh just beats David Harrison in everything stat per minute except blocks per game. He scores more, rebounds more, fouls less, get's more assists, get's less turnovers, more steals, so let's just take it easy there. Don't even make this comparison ever again unless DH starts averaging 17 and 10 and is capable of actually staying in the game. Bosh is also 2 years younger and has All-Star potential while Harrison has at most soid big man potential Every lottery player picked after 8th > Araujo, now that's more reasonable, but Araujo is coming into his own, he almost clapped while on the bench today.</div> hahaha ur basing everything on stats, who does bosh have to compete with him for minutes? nobody, he has the starting spot the whole year and plus this is his second season so of course his stats are going to be a bit better, harrison was thrown into a starting role and has flourished, this is his first season and he is playing very well.if anything they have the same potential because if harrison was in the same situation as bosh he would probably produce the same or better. and my DH>CB comment i was jus messin around, of course hes not way better but he IS on the same level with him which is great because this is only harrisons first season.
the chatter after the game was that rafer was wideopen and rose took an ill advised shot. coach mitchell seemed ticked in his post game comments.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ModinkPT27:</div><div class="quote_post">hahaha ur basing everything on stats, who does bosh have to compete with him for minutes? nobody, he has the starting spot the whole year and plus this is his second season so of course his stats are going to be a bit better, harrison was thrown into a starting role and has flourished, this is his first season and he is playing very well.if anything they have the same potential because if harrison was in the same situation as bosh he would probably produce the same or better. and my DH>CB comment i was jus messin around, of course hes not way better but he IS on the same level with him which is great because this is only harrisons first season.</div> Matt Bonner, Donyell Marshall, Pape Sow, and now Eric Williams and Aaron Willaims
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Matt Bonner, Donyell Marshall, Pape Sow,</div> isnt marshall injured? and bonner plays with bosh on the court most the time doesnt he? and why is bosh having to compete for minutes with sow? i dont know much about sow but bosh shouldnt have minutes being taken away from him because of sow.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ModinkPT27:</div><div class="quote_post">isnt marshall injured? and bonner plays with bosh on the court most the time doesnt he? and why is bosh having to compete for minutes with sow? i dont know much about sow but bosh shouldnt have minutes being taken away from him because of sow.</div> Marshall came back about 8 games ago, Bonner cant play centre so he and Bosh cant play at the same time unless Bosh plays center, and sow is a bench player but can still get a few minutes
