<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Accord:</div><div class="quote_post">Most 50 point games since 1980: Michael Jordan: 37 Allen Iverson: 7 Dominique Wilkins: 7 Kobe Bryant: 5 Bernard King: 5</div> That is the most meaninless stat. Even is someone scores more 50 point games, does that mean he's better than Jordan? If you want to be the next Jordan not only do you have to have piles of 50 point nights, but you need to be super consistent at being super good, you have to put your team on your back and win them 5 rings, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE SICK AS A DOG! Jordan was the man for many reasons, least of which were his 50 point nights
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting norespect:</div><div class="quote_post">That is the most meaninless stat. Even is someone scores more 50 point games, does that mean he's better than Jordan? If you want to be the next Jordan not only do you have to have piles of 50 point nights, but you need to be super consistent at being super good, you have to put your team on your back and win them 5 rings, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE SICK AS A DOG! Jordan was the man for many reasons, least of which were his 50 point nights</div> I think that stat indicates how other-worldly Jordan was amongst his peers as a scorer. He led the league in scoring for 9 years or so. That's domination. All those 50 point games sort of highlight that fact. It isn't a meaningless stat at all. It's part of his legacy as the game's most exciting offensive player.
stats Jordan was much more than a scorer to define him one-dimensionally is an insult to him. You cant say right now that LBJ wont be better. He is much better now than michael was at age 20. At age 20 MJ wasnt even a top 5 player in college . LBJ is depening on who you ask 1-5th best player in the nba For an article about LBJ at age 20 go to the following link article
^I think that makes MJ a much better player. If that were the case, he improved ridiculously so much it's not even funny. Jordan was not good when he was in his 1st two years if HS. LBJ was a monster in HS. MJ's ability, and work ethic and will to succeed is what seperated him from any other player in the league. He improved tremendously while James improved greatly. James was always good but where MJ started and where he finished is what seperated him from any other baller to ever play the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dagoods:</div><div class="quote_post">This is pretty debatable! Hakeem was great but TIM DUNCAN has been the best player in the NBA since well "BULLS # 23 Retired", and he has won 2 rings (same amount as the Dream), moreover, let's not forget that Duncan is still relatively young and he has not reached his prime yet </div> You really think duncan hasn't reached his prime? I think he is in his prime right now....
If you compare them agewise, Lebron has the edge on Jordan. But season wise, in the NBA... it's not so clear cut. Let's put it like this. There man never be anyone who will do for the NBA what Jordan did for it in the 80s and 90s. But it's almost inevitable that someone, in the future will match Jordans skill and prowess on the court, and even surpass him. Again, we can't look at it from the perspective that no one will ever score 50 this many times or win MVP this many time. Even if Jordan himself were in the NBA now, he wouldn't score 50 as much as he did in the 80s and 90s. The game has changed. Incidentally, with all this talk of Lebron, Kobe's not finished, he's only 26. People are acting like he's about to retire because of the scandal. I can promise that unless there is some career ending injury, he will do some things in the future that will have us talking about him being one of the greatest.
ramblings <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hakeem was great but TIM DUNCAN has been the best player in the NBA since well "BULLS # 23 Retired", and he has won 2 rings (same amount as the Dream), moreover, let's not forget that Duncan is still relatively young and he has not reached his prime yet</div> Saying TD hasnt reached his prime yet I dont know about that I think he is at he height right now and will only get worse from here. Future Dynasty made a good point that the game has changed and a 50 point game now is different than it used to be.
In the near future, find the term "Basketball" in the New English Dictionary and you will find a picture of Michael Jordan beside it. He's the basketball icon. No one has ever done things he has done, 2 come backs, scoring 40+ @ age 40+. You have to respect what he bought to the game, and that famous turn around fade away, nobody could stop that. He was thinking of a move that he can use where nobody could block it and he could use it any time he wants to at the age of 30+. Now days kids do the move just becaues he made it famous and it looks cool, they don't understand it. There will never be another MJ because every player has a different style of game. Everyone's all different. Young super stars take it as a compliment but they all want their own title, their own persona, nobody wants to carry a name that he's air to the throne of someone else. Lets just watch the game!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ButtZilla:</div><div class="quote_post">In the near future, find the term "Basketball" in the New English Dictionary and you will find a picture of Michael Jordan beside it. </div> Huh? Are you saying that MJ defines the game of basketball? as good a player as he was he didnt define the game of basketball the game of basketball defined him
Jordan's impact on the game was far bigger than James. Yeah, he was a great player, but the impact was great. People are acting as if Jordan played when Wilt was around. He played in the 80's and 90's when basketball was just as competitive and arguably better than what it was now. Jordan is the greatest and his vast improvement from where he started is what makes him the greatest. James was born with a lot of physical gifts. James was a phenom as a freshman, but Jordan wasn't. Jordan's heart and will, and overall impact are priceless characteristics of him. Even if LeBron has some 50 point games and what not, he still can not match Jordan's desire and will to win. It's something that can't be taught or acquired. You have to be born with it and James doesn't have that. James is a great player who will hvae a great career, but untill you drops 60 points on one of the greatest dynasties ever, has a hall of famer and arguably a top 10 player in history call him "God, disguised as a basketball player," has 6 championships, and the countless other awards Jordan had in his career than maybe it will be fair to give him a comparison. MJ and LBJ play to different ways too. I see James as more of a rich man's Penny Hardaway.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Jordan's impact on the game was far bigger than James. Yeah, he was a great player, but the impact was great. People are acting as if Jordan played when Wilt was around. He played in the 80's and 90's when basketball was just as competitive and arguably better than what it was now. Jordan is the greatest and his vast improvement from where he started is what makes him the greatest. James was born with a lot of physical gifts. James was a phenom as a freshman, but Jordan wasn't. Jordan's heart and will, and overall impact are priceless characteristics of him. Even if LeBron has some 50 point games and what not, he still can not match Jordan's desire and will to win. It's something that can't be taught or acquired. You have to be born with it and James doesn't have that. James is a great player who will hvae a great career, but untill you drops 60 points on one of the greatest dynasties ever, has a hall of famer and arguably a top 10 player in history call him "God, disguised as a basketball player," has 6 championships, and the countless other awards Jordan had in his career than maybe it will be fair to give him a comparison. MJ and LBJ play to different ways too. I see James as more of a rich man's Penny Hardaway.</div> As we knicks fans from our teams cap situation Penny is plenty rich (14.6 this year).
