Houston Trades Tyronne Lue to Atlanta for Jon Barry

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  1. TheNextJordan8

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    Didnt jon go to ATL because his family or something was there?? anybody know what i m talkin about?

    And if that were to be true why would he move to houston? Maybe hes not going to report i dont know to tell you the truth.
     
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    I saw something about this earlier today too, but didn't know what to think of it. All I can find is an excerpt from an article that says:

    ...The family history is recited without apparent bitterness. Kylie's family has done plenty of healing; and it seems to know how to disquise its scars. "The perspective of our whole family has changed," said Jon's wife, Betsy. "The Barry family has been through a lot of difficult things, everybody knows their history with their parents. There's a lot of unfinished business, I guess you could say. But Drew's daughter getting sick has really brought everybody a lot closer. You forget about all the dumb stuff." Rick lives in Colorado Springs with his third wife and their 10-year-old son. Earlier this month, he flew a nutritionist in from Colorado to tweak Kylie's diet. The little girl with the pretty smile brings out the best in all her kin....

    All I know is that Drew is Jon's brother, so this Kylie girl must be Jon's niece. Doesn't sound like anything that would cause Jon to have to move to a particular city though, I mean it's his brother's kid, so you'd think there'd be someone to take care of her.

    Who knows.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">Didnt jon go to ATL because his family or something was there?? anybody know what i m talkin about?

    And if that were to be true why would he move to houston? Maybe hes not going to report i dont know to tell you the truth.</div>

    Family was one of the reasons that Jon Barry signed with Atlanta.
    He doesn't get the choice to 'move' to Houston - Atlanta traded him.
     
  4. YugoRocketsFan

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    were going to see saturday how he is going to play
     
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    Why did Rockets move Barrett onto the injured list???

    I hoped that trading Lue would give Barett more time, but he'll get even less time now. Good news is that Nachbar is activated.
     
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    Hmm, I don't really get this trade. It does not fit well into our plan at all. Right now, our glaring need is a defensive power forward, and Dawson goes ahead and gets us a washed-up 35 year-old who's weakness is defense? So what if he can shoot threes? Aren't we already jacking up too many of them and already in the upper echelon of the NBA in 3pt percentage? This trade might come back to haunt us in the future, when Lue blossoms in Atlanta as the starting point guard and Barry gets injured halfway into the season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm, I don't really get this trade. It does not fit well into our plan at all. Right now, our glaring need is a defensive power forward, and Dawson goes ahead and gets us a washed-up 35 year-old who's weakness is defense? So what if he can shoot threes? Aren't we already jacking up too many of them and already in the upper echelon of the NBA in 3pt percentage? This trade might come back to haunt us in the future, when Lue blossoms in Atlanta as the starting point guard and Barry gets injured halfway into the season.</div>

    My reasoning exactly, Trip. But, the Rockets do save money with this deal, and now that Lue won't be a contract liability (Not like we're gonna give him an extension anyways.) we can make bigger deals without worrying about PT and all. The Rockets rotation looks like this (at the moment, Barrett and Bowen on the IR)

    PG: Sura, Ward
    SG: McGrady, Barry
    SF: Jackson, Boki
    PF: Howard, Taylor, Padgett, 'Spoon
    C: Yao, Deke

    Now -- not only do our Power Forwards stink, we have four of them. I'm thinking that 2 of them will be moved, and we get 1 back and another Swingman. David Aldridge reported today that everyone on the Rockets Roster other than Yao and McGrady are being shopped. We still need a decent PF, and hopefully, give Barrett some playing time. Maybe this was just a way to better the use of the TE that is rotting in CD's hands.. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Just wondering if Barrett is on the IL, how is he going to get more playing time?
     
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    Good deal for houston... they didn't need Lue that much.
     
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    This was a good trade for the Rockets. Lue wasn't doing much and hopefully Barry will provide a spark to them.
     
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    Barry might give us some leadership, but that's about it. Getting him doesn't solve any of our needs, and although it does make our team better as a whole, it's clear that Barrett won't get much PT anyways. When Ward returns, Barrett will move down to third-string point guard. That's sad considering he is a clone of Lue with better shooting.
     
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    Well like Aldridge said, their shopping almost everyone on the team around, so hopefully some good deals show up with some of our PFs or Ward. I think we're ultimately going to have to look to the offseason for some way out of our current situation. We're really not going to get anyone that impressive with the players that are hurting our team. I mean, we might even have gotten the bad part of the deal with the Lue and Barry trade. Hopefully, something nice comes up and Carroll Dawson will make the deal.
     
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    but barry is better at shooting than tyrron lue, he is better in FT, 3 Pointers and Field Goal Percentage so i think this trade is going to help rockets win a few games
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YugoRocketsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">but barry is better at shooting than tyrron lue, he is better in FT, 3 Pointers and Field Goal Percentage so i think this trade is going to help rockets win a few games</div>
    Stats don't tell the whole story. Getting Shaq for T-Mac would help us win a few more games, but would it be good for the development of Yao? Same thing for the Barry trade. T-Mac is already playing 40 minutes a night at the shooting guard position, and Jackson puts in 38-42 every night too. Where can we find time for Barry? Van Gundy will be forced to try and make good use of Barry and not limit McGrady and Jackson's minutes at the same time. That would only result in us playing a smaller lineup for much of every game, which will cause us to suffer.
     
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    well obviously the rockets felt that getting him would benefit our team, we just gotta wait and see.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YugoRocketsfan:</div><div class="quote_post">but barry is better at shooting than tyrron lue, he is better in FT, 3 Pointers and Field Goal Percentage so i think this trade is going to help rockets win a few games</div>

    well i can argue Lue is <u>way</u> faster, has better pg/ ballhandling skills, play better defence and is more atheletic. u cant just measure a guy by his shooting ability. his defence, passing , work ethnic, ballhandling, attitude with teamates has to be taken into consideration too.

    anyway, Jon Barry brings a veteran savvy and a nice shot to get quick points off the bench for houston, but his slowness and less-than average ballhandling ability may cost problems.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting flamehead:</div><div class="quote_post">well i can argue Lue is <u>way</u> faster, has better pg/ ballhandling skills, play better defence and is more atheletic. u cant just measure a guy by his shooting ability. his defence, passing , work ethnic, ballhandling, attitude with teamates has to be taken into consideration too.

    anyway, Jon Barry brings a veteran savvy and a nice shot to get quick points off the bench for houston, but his slowness and less-than average ballhandling ability may cost problems.</div>
    Hey neo ...do u feel stupid after tonight's game vs. the Clippers? We'll see how Tyra Lue will do with her sexy skills and floppy locks with the hawks. Doubt their crappy coaching staff would play him much and even if they do they definitely won't improve much from lue's to's fadeaways and size. He's just not a smart player..and I've watched enough rocket games..it was dreadful watching him and his dribbling. After just 1 game with the rockets, jon barry is a steal..that's for sure. Ty lue hasnt played one good game in all of his rocket games fyi.
     
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    I just wanted to add my $0.02...

    I like this trade...we had a logjam at PG, and it was clear that JVG showed more trust in Ward and Barrett than Lue...With Barry, we get a combo guard with hustle and energy who is also a lights-out 3-point shooter...he has loads of playoff experience and can pass and push the ball as well...good move and I think it will make us a better team in the long run...
     
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    i declare this trade Good!
     
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    i liked this trade... Barry brings toughness and energy, effort.. those things are contagious for a ballclub.

    i agree it doesn't do anything to help our PF situation but that's ok. it helps reduce the dead weight at PG.

    what i don't understand is the wesley trade [​IMG]
     

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