Negatives: Shaquille O'Neal (read first post)

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  1. jbbReal Deal

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    Read the directions carefully...

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    Next poster...first negative...
     
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    His age
    At 32, I don't think he has many many years left. 3 to 4 years at most and that's not even guaranteed. I hope that the HEAT management and Shaq don't get in trouble when they extend his contract. I don't wanna end up hating Shaq like the Lakers fans [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">His age
    At 32, I don't think he has many many years left. 3 to 4 years at most and that's not even guaranteed. I hope that the HEAT management and Shaq don't get in trouble when they extend his contract. I don't wanna end up hating Shaq like the Lakers fans [​IMG]</div>
    Well, that all depends on his contract extension. The Heat really control all of that (obviously), so his age may not play a factor later on, it just all depends on the Heat's decisions.

    To me, even from watching this year, one of Shaq's bigger negatives (other than the obvious free throw shooting) is his defense. His inability to defend the pick and roll still exists...but the problem with that is that he doesn't want to do it. His defense does turn up late in the game, though...but sometimes, that doesn't make up for the rest.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">

    To me, even from watching this year, one of Shaq's bigger negatives (other than the obvious free throw shooting) is his defense. His inability to defend the pick and roll still exists...but the problem with that is that he doesn't want to do it. His defense does turn up late in the game, though...but sometimes, that doesn't make up for the rest.</div>

    His defense overall isn't that bad. He did make the all-defensive first team 2 times, and He is a good blocker to have him in the lane and people fear him more than any other player in the paint.

    Lets see............... Free THrow Shooting
    [​IMG] He is horrible at that. He needs to take that offer from Rick Barry and learn the granny shot free-throw just like Wilt used to do for a little bit.
     
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    sneballa7 JBB JustBBall Member

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    His biggest weakness is his free throw shooting. Sometimes it takes him a while to get back on defense which causes the other team to quickly drive and score or draw the foul.
     
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    His weakness - the biggest one is my opinion - is not working hard enough on his game in the offseason to bring new things to his game.
     
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    O i have another!

    3 PT shooting! Shaq really needs to work on this. [​IMG]
     
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    Definatly if he could shoot the 3 lol...

    There really isn't that many negatives you can say about a Franchise player. It barely makes for a page long.

    I'll say.... to keep better relationships with his teammates. Like Pennny, Kobe... not sure who's fault but Shaq could just ignore everything and try to make it work..
     
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    I have never really seen any "faults" of Shaq. Although he could improve his free throw shoting percentage some.
     
  10. jbbReal Deal

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    How about throwing elbows? Man, he sure does knock a few guys around with them (Brad Miller, anyone). I mean, sometimes he should be called for a foul the way he throws them into people's face and chest, neck, wherever...but I mean, it's a positive as well for the team he's playing on, since that's one way to clear his defender and put them out of bounds.

    <font color="red">By the way, for the Heat fans...thank you for keeping the thread mature and making for a great discussion. I really appreciate it.</font> [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Real Deal:</div><div class="quote_post">How about throwing elbows? Man, he sure does knock a few guys around with them (Brad Miller, anyone). I mean, sometimes he should be called for a foul the way he throws them into people's face and chest, neck, wherever...but I mean, it's a positive as well for the team he's playing on, since that's one way to clear his defender and put them out of bounds.

    <font color="red">By the way, for the Heat fans...thank you for keeping the thread mature and making for a great discussion. I really appreciate it.</font> [​IMG]</div>
    Yeah but then I don't know if we should blame him for throwing elbows. Is he doing that on purpose? I don't know. I hope not [​IMG] But that does get him some offensive fouls so that's another negative approved [​IMG]
    Oh and that's right he doesn't bring new things to his game. Does he really need to? I don't think so. But I do think that if he did, hell he'd be even more dominant.
    Can this be a negative?
    That he's getting paid 30 million dollars to take most of the cap room?
     
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    I think you can consider his salary a negative. There's not very many $30 million players in the history of the league, actually...but if you deserve it, it should be during your prime.

    Shaq is out of his prime...I think everyone can agree with that...so looking at it that way, taking less money for the Lakers or Heat would've been a positive for the organization...so in a way, wanting an extension worth more is a negative.
     
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    I don't think Shaq delibertely throws bows, and in contrast to that we have to think of the many fouls that happen to him that don't get called, the elbows are jsut because he's big and it's sometimes unaviodable, but he's real skilled though. I mean you hear the people saying he's only good because he's big, but as a rookie and when he was young, he wasn't nearly this big, and he was still sick.

    I think his negative would be his free throw shooting, and that he could be a thorn in your side in crunch time, also his contract is a problem, and his age. If he could settle for only about 15-18 million then it would be great, the new CBA could help in this though.
     
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    Call me crazy, but I think when Shaqs current contract runs out that he'll settle for a smaller one about 14 Million(lol I hope so). This guy is already set for life.

    Shaq doesn't throw his elbows on purpose. The thing is Shaq is big(DUH!), and when he jumps his elbows rise as well and sometimes he can't help but hit some one in the face. His elbows are huge too. Shaq gets beat up just as much as he beats people up though if you watch closely.
     
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    I think Shaq has a couple of more years or HEAT management needs to extend his contract..another thing his elbows are big so when he runs through that court he beats other people up man..but he gets beat up too if u just watch slowly and really close enough.

    My opinion Shaq is a great B-ball player i hate the Lakers not just because of their name just because of Kobe. He's trying to hard.
     

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