I know I sound a little crazy here but Yaos never going to get better then the 18ppg hes averaging heck if it was my deciscion I'd trade him for Eddy Curry and Ben Gordon we're just a pathetic team full of old players and young players who play horribly.Bob Sura was pathetic and so was Tyronn Lue when he was here. Then we trade the soul of our team JJ(Jim Jackson)for friggin David Wesly who shoots about 35% (6-15 against the FRICKIN SUNS!!!)Yao should be averging 25ppg and 13 rpg for a person with his talent and height Maurice Taylor should be getting 15ppg and 8 rpg off the bench J How should be getting 16ppg and 7 rpg and Bob Sura should be getting at LEAST 7 assists per game and SVG should be fired also we are playing horribly right now and i wish we could turn it around and win some games, and as you may see Steve Francis wasn't the problem and I wouldn't mind seeing Baron Davis on the Rockets if you know what I mean since its reported hes on the trade block.Well oh well I've watching replays of the game and im pissed off and i may be overreacting but come on!!!!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yaos never going to get better then the 18ppg hes averaging heck if it was my deciscion I'd trade him for Eddy Curry and Ben Gordon we're just a pathetic team full of old players and young players who play horribly.</div> First of all, how do you know he's not getting any better? Already, I've seen him progress in so many areas. Sure, his development may be slower than many other players, but he's getting there. I've seen him play with more aggressiveness compared to his first year, more endurance, and more agility. Before, he would just be basically worked on with crossovers or dunks. Haven't seen that lately have we? And for Eddy Curry and Ben Gordon? That's just ludicrous. Curry is a pretty selfish player and is pretty overrated. In addition to that, the Bulls are trying to center their team around guards, so why in the world would they trade Ben Gordon? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao should be averging 25ppg and 13 rpg for a person with his talent and height Maurice Taylor should be getting 15ppg and 8 rpg off the bench J How should be getting 16ppg and 7 rpg and Bob Sura should be getting at LEAST 7 assists per game</div> Um, the only problem with Yao right now is that he is wildly inconsistent and gets into foul trouble. Those are the only reasons off the top of my head that Yao is not getting those numbers. But sure, who wouldn't be disappointed by Taylor's horrible numbers this season? But what are we going to do about it? We can't trade him because of his contract, so what do you want us to do, moan about it in a thread? Bob Sura is a great player, but the truth is, last year he was on the Hawks, which gave him a chance to shine. At best, he is a vocal leader and quality passer/shooter. He is no playmaker, so we shouldn't expect that much of him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">SVG should be fired also we are playing horribly right now and i wish we could turn it around and win some games, and as you may see Steve Francis wasn't the problem and I wouldn't mind seeing Baron Davis on the Rockets if you know what I mean since its reported hes on the trade block.</div> What team are you commenting on anyways? Its Jeff Van Gundy not Stan Van Gundy. In addition to that, we were recently on three game winning streak before we lost to the Suns, so I have no clue what you're talking about there. The teams obviously not going to mesh right away, so you need to give them some time. Plus, we don't exactly have the best of players around McGrady and Yao. Steve was part of the problem. He wasn't the best point guard fit for Yao, and because Dawson decided that Yao in the future would be best for us, wanted to revolve around Yao. We weren't really getting anywhere with the roster we had last year, which is the reason why we had the change. Sure it may be risky, but in a few years, we will be better.
My bad JVG should be fired .sorry that made such a big impact in your post that i mixed it up.In my opinion Yao still should be traded their are plenty of players in the league who don't get in foul trouble all the time and doesn't that have to do with talent?Yao is playing horrible and hes not giving me any reason to doubt it.I didn't exactly see him exploding against the 3 mediocre teams we faced before the Suns and he was absoloutly destroyed against a horrible defensive team and im sad that he makes us forced to watch him on the bench and make that ugly face of his when he commits a foul that we all saw him do on purpose.Shaq had a word for this i think it was called foul shaving?Where a player goes to the bench after picking up 2 quick touch fouls so he can sit on the bench and pretend to be mad?That's what Yaos doing and I don't like it.TRADE YAO!
Yao doesn't get into foul trouble for that reason. He gets into foul trouble because he a 7 foot 6 inch center. So, whenever someone drives or someone posts up for a layup and they touch him, he gets called for some ridiculous foul. Because he's so tall, it makes him look like a mauled the guy. However, the advantage of being that tall definitely outweights the disadvantages. He can easily get hookshotsk, layups, and dunks over other players once he improves, so doesn't that outweigh his lankiness and fouls? And the part about him not exploding against the three mediocre teams we played? Yao had 20 points, 8-16 shooting, and 7 rebounds in 26 minutes against Cleveland. Yao had was out with the flu against Milwaukee. Yao had 15 points, 5-8 shooting, and 4 rebounds in 23 minutes against the Jazz. If you don't call that exploding, you can at least call that decent. Plus, he was out with bronchitus/flu so you need to give the man some time to recover. Maybe that's why he didn't have that great of a game against the Jazz?
this guy is jokes, if u want everything to be at ur standard, go play one of the nba games on ps2 or xbox....
I myself have been frustrated with yaos performance but that doesnt mean we should trade him. The thing is that yao is improving but everyone wants him to become dominant NOW. Some players play well right out of their rookie year and some dont. In yaos case he hasnt but his time will eventuanlly come.
he got 15 pts against the jazz *breaths deeply and takes a drink of water before exploding* TYSON FRICKING CHANDLER CAN GET 20 PTS AGAINST THE JAZZ and any fricking player in the league can get the 14 pts yao got against the suns.Kobe Bryant on 6 minutes playing time can get 14 pts against the suns.Yao will never be near Shaq level Yao will never be a 24ppg 12 rpg type of guy.Yao will NEVER be dominate and therefore the Rockets will never be a 55 win team with him there.Ever.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">he got 15 pts against the jazz *breaths deeply and takes a drink of water before exploding* TYSON FRICKING CHANDLER CAN GET 20 PTS AGAINST THE JAZZ and any fricking player in the league can get the 14 pts yao got against the suns.</div> He was sick two days ago with Bronchitis. If you ever have gotten Bronchitis, you would know it takes a few days to recover. And the part with Yao against the Suns, Van Gundy wasn't putting him in that often- so its actually quite understandable. I mean, he had a double double and 6-11 shooting. And why would you make a Kobe Bryant comment here? It's totally irrelevant. They have two totally different situations. Kobe is the first option on his team (which also has no other options), while Yao is on a team with McGrady. How do you know what will happen in 2 years from now? How can you possibly know that Yao will never dominate? You're right with one thing though, he will never be Shaq. Those are two totally different players. Yao will be Yao, Shaq will be Shaq. Two different roads.
like I said before I wish they would trade the softest weakest center in the west hes an improved Rasho Nesterovic period.I just hope we can trade him for someone good before its too late to even try.
i believe the problem resides with bad coaching on gundys part. and mostly bad team management by alla trade. i just dont believe gundy is playing to his players strength's yet he is trying to mold his players into the players he wants them to be; a plan in which he failed to accomplish with farncis and mobley and check where they are now. i think gundy has to let his players play to there strentgh before the rocks can go anywhere under gundy, because tracy seems to perform better to me during fastpace run and gun than halfcourt set plays. And while yao can back guys down and work in the post at times he seems to me to be more comfortable taking perimeter shots than dunking on guys in the post; which is why i believe he seems so passive in the post at times. i believe the trade to obtain mcGrady should never have been made. because its obvious to see yao is more comfortbale shooting the ball than posting up, so the reason that a team would trade away there best slasher and perimeter player for one perimeter player in mcgrady behooves me. What happens when Mcgrady is injured? Now if steve or mobley was injuered the other would be there to take the weight. I believe the rockets problem resides with the fact they have no point gaurd to set yao up and there two best players are both perimeter oriented players in yao and mcgrady. I just believe the rockets were trying to copy the lakers dynasty instead of creating there own dynasty with the players they had. but as my man durvasa told me paitence is the key for you rockets fans. And yeah man these are just my opinions
Never going to happen. So this discussion can stop now before the flaming begins. <font color="red">THREAD LOCKED</font>
