I know this isn't even a rumor, but this a trade that could send Kidd, Cliff, and Eddy Curry packing. Golden State trades: PF Clifford Robinson (9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 26.8 minutes) PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) SF Mike Dunleavy (11.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.8 apg in 31.3 minutes) SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) Golden State receives: C Eddy Curry (15.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.3 minutes) SG Rodney Buford (7.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.8 minutes) SF Jumaine Jones (6.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.4 minutes) PF Brian Cook (7.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: +0.7 ppg, +5.1 rpg, and -6.8 apg. Chicago trades: C Eddy Curry (15.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.3 minutes) PG Kirk Hinrich (15.9 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 6.5 apg in 36.8 minutes) Chicago receives: PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) SF Luke Walton (1.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.1 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +1.2 apg. New Jersey trades: PF Brian Scalabrine (4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 22.0 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) PG Jason Kidd (9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg in 29.1 minutes) SG Rodney Buford (7.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.8 minutes) New Jersey receives: PF Clifford Robinson (9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 26.8 minutes) PG Kirk Hinrich (15.9 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 6.5 apg in 36.8 minutes) C Brian Grant (3.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.2 minutes) PG Chucky Atkins (11.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 3.8 apg in 35.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: +8.4 ppg, -4.0 rpg, and +1.6 apg. L.A. Lakers trades: C Brian Grant (3.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.2 minutes) PG Chucky Atkins (11.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 3.8 apg in 35.0 minutes) SF Jumaine Jones (6.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.4 minutes) PF Brian Cook (7.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.0 minutes) SF Luke Walton (1.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.1 minutes) L.A. Lakers receives: SF Mike Dunleavy (11.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.8 apg in 31.3 minutes) PF Brian Scalabrine (4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 22.0 minutes) PG Jason Kidd (9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg in 29.1 minutes) Change in team outlook: -2.7 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and +4.9 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Golden State, Chicago, New Jersey and L.A. Lakers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Golden State, Chicago, New Jersey and L.A. Lakers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Anyoe have any insights?
tooo many important players involved.. the bulls wanna build around Hinrich.. so this trade doesnt make sense
ya hinrich is getting better every game so bulls wouldnt do da deal wit hinrich and curry but the nets would like it if they get hinrich
^ I see what you are saying, so what about this, Golden State trades: SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) SF Mike Dunleavy (11.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.8 apg in 31.3 minutes) PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) PF Clifford Robinson (9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 26.8 minutes) Golden State receives: SF Jumaine Jones (6.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.4 minutes) PF Brian Cook (7.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.0 minutes) SG Rodney Buford (7.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.8 minutes) C Eddy Curry (15.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: +0.7 ppg, +5.1 rpg, and -6.8 apg. L.A. Lakers trades: SF Jumaine Jones (6.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.4 minutes) PG Chucky Atkins (11.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 3.8 apg in 35.0 minutes) C Brian Grant (3.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.2 minutes) PF Brian Cook (7.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.0 minutes) L.A. Lakers receives: SF Mike Dunleavy (11.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.8 apg in 31.3 minutes) PG Jason Kidd (9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg in 29.1 minutes) PF Brian Scalabrine (4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 22.0 minutes) Change in team outlook: -2.7 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and +4.9 apg. New Jersey trades: PG Jason Kidd (9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.7 apg in 29.1 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) PF Nenad Krstic (6.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.6 minutes) PF Brian Scalabrine (4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 22.0 minutes) SG Rodney Buford (7.4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.8 minutes) New Jersey receives: PF Clifford Robinson (9.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 26.8 minutes) PG Chucky Atkins (11.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 3.8 apg in 35.0 minutes) C Brian Grant (3.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.2 minutes) PG Ben Gordon (13.4 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 23.5 minutes) Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, -8.9 rpg, and -4.0 apg. Chicago trades: PG Ben Gordon (13.4 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 23.5 minutes) C Eddy Curry (15.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 29.3 minutes) Chicago receives: SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: -3.9 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +5.0 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Golden State, L.A. Lakers, New Jersey and Chicago being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Golden State, L.A. Lakers, New Jersey and Chicago had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
The Bulls give up Gordon and get...RON MERCER? DEREK FISHER? CALBERT CHEANEY? They could get better players for Curry ALONE, why give up TWO YOUNG players for THREE WASHED UP Bench Players? Come on, this isn't NBA Live. This trade stinks And you, my friend, deserve a Peace
no way Warriors want this-Lakers seem to reap the main benefit on either scenario, From Warriors perspective replace Curry with Chandler and its almost okay- but then I don't think CHI or NJ would be happy
yea...either trade is a little dirty for the bulls. chicago MUST be through with giving up on young prospects since theyve been raped in the passed doing that. hinrich and gordon both have huge upsides...i doubt the bulls would give up on them for a handfull of aging role players. not to mention curry. trade looks alright otherwise...seems fair to everyone else. but i thought that mullen was sold on dunleavy and wont give up on him?
yeah if the bulls did that trade, gm paxson would be guillotined. btw, chris mullin is the worst gm in the league, the derek fisher and foyle signing were easily the most foolish signings i've seen since i started following basketball.
i dont think the bulls will make a trade ne time soon. they have young talented players and stay together for a long time
i dont think the bulls will trade any one right now. they have been playing really great, they on a 6 game win streak and in the 8th seed also. and those guys(hinrich,curry) are the reason. but i dont know the bulls have traded away some really good players.
Lol what the crap is this???? Who sits at home and makes up a possible trade with 15+ players? IMO you are very lonely and not very smart because from the looks of it Golden State gives away a bunch of worthless role players for up and comers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tesh15:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont think the bulls will make a trade ne time soon. they have young talented players and stay together for a long time</div> Exactly right Tesh, this team isn't going to be broken apart any time soon or ever; that is, unless someone leaves to test the free agency market. But in all truth, the Chicago Bulls would never trade any of those players and I'll tell you why. First up is Kirk Hinrich, Air Pietrus, have you ever watched a Chicago Bulls game this season? The Bulls will never give up their captain, who is the most popular player to their fans, not to mention one of the most intelligent players in the league for old and slowly dying bench material. Ben Gordon is a work in progress as many thought he would be because of his size and playing time off the bench. He is working his own way into Scott Skiles' system and shoots the ball from behind the arch with perfection. It's rare that he even misses a three point shot when he's left wide open, which can be scary for any team trying to keep their lead within the last few minutes. Ben also excells at the free throw line, taking his time to measure the shot and strength needed depending on his durable state. Simply put for Eddy Curry, if they were to trade this guy it would've happened before the 2003-04 season. But they have stuck with him and Tyson Chandler because they are determined to work hard at their game no matter what the cost. They both trained very hard over the summer, Eddy Curry lost a lot of weight and Tyson Chandler gained muscle and worked very well on his jumpshot and free throws. If this isn't enough information to tell anyone that the Bulls won't be trading anyone anytime soon, I don't know what else to say.
Actually Gordon and Curry,as well as Dunleavy are living with the burden of being picked pretty high for their talent. Goron may get as good as Fisher,maybe better.Cliff Robinson is good,but old,so a factor is the cap room as his conract ends. These days a large 2-team deal is complex because the cap side effects skew values. Odd that in this thread Foyle gets put down,while suddenly Curry found a work ethic. If Foyle is 100% healthy and gets enough minutes to be in the flow,he's good. Per minute he will block shots,get boards and hustle
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) SF Luke Walton (1.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 8.1 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +1.2 apg. </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">SF Calbert Cheaney (4.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 18.7 minutes) PG Derek Fisher (10.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 4.1 apg in 25.3 minutes) SG Ron Mercer (9.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.3 apg in 35.3 minutes) Change in team outlook: -3.9 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +5.0 apg. </div> You honestly think that we would even consider breaking up this team for, uhh, that? Please leave the Bulls out of all trade ideas. Nobody's going anywhere.
Hinrich, Gordon, Duhon, Deng Why would the Bulls want to trade any of these Players? Forget about the points boards and assists etc... its about developing the players into NBA Stars
