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  1. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Need4Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">Can someone pinch me? Does that friggin score say 86-57? Holy *&%#!</div>
    No it doesn't. What are you talking about?

    Any way the Knicks started off better but, they still need to preserve their runs. Allan Houston is shooting misreably on the floor. The 4th didn't start yet but how much do you want to bet instead of Wilkens trying to make a legit 4th quarter run, he will go with Norris JYD and all of our defensive options with no one who can get us back into it instead he keeps the imbalance.
     
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    This is exactly what I was talking about in LeBron's negative thread. Almost all of his points come off dunks/layups. Still a great player though.
     
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    TT - nice amount of points but 23 mins and ONE rebound. ONE!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">No it doesn't. What are you talking about?

    Any way the Knicks started off better but, they still need to preserve their runs. Allan Houston is shooting misreably on the floor. The 4th didn't start yet but how much do you want to bet instead of Wilkens trying to make a legit 4th quarter run, he will go with Norris JYD and all of our defensive options with no one who can get us back into it instead he keeps the imbalance.</div>


    Sorry, but the score with that at one point in the game. And know the Knicks are tied with the hot 76ers for 1st in the ATL div. [​IMG]
     
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    That was a terrible game. Marbury was 3-6. Why did he only take 6 shots. He did have 12 assists though.
     
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    tell me that the knicks lost...(didn't see the game)
     
  7. Tribute to H2O

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    I know I'm late but I had to cool off. That was one of the worst performances I've ever seeen by the Knicks. No ifs and or buts about it. I cant even put the blame on one person. EVERYONE the blame. My God. I actually woke myself up on a Saturday morning to watch that stuff! Very disappointing. But I cleared my mind and saw what went wrong.

    We have no back up shooting guard. That's one. Houston was clearly having a hard time moving out there. I dont know if it's a mental thing or just a little sore or what. I doubt it's serious but he was having a hard time moving around. He did fine in the first quarter but he shouldnt have been playing that much in the second but we have noone else. Crawford is out and Penny's been banished by Isiah. Besides it wasnt his man doing the damage. When the second unit comes in we have noone capable of scoring. That's an issue with the rotation and our bench. Sweetney who's our only low post threat and great rebounder is out as is our back up shooting guards. We stopped attacking the basket which made things easier for everybody. Our transition defense was terrible and we seemed a few steps behind every play.

    The key problem is that were getting no production from our small forward position. Only Houston and Marbury are effective scorers on the team right now. Houston had a bad game which will happen since he's returning from a serious injury and Marbury cant do it all alone. If we could get something from our small forward position then we wouldnt have to worry about Houston having a bad game or be upset with the lack of offensive production off the bench. Maybe we should consider that Wally trade if we can get a defensive big man out of it.

    But please guys, let's put it in perspective. The Cavaliers are a good team. When were healthy we can beat them but were not healthy. We are sorely undermanned and when you're playing a rival team with key players out this will happen especially when that team plays as well as they do at home. Teams go through this sort of funk. Despite the fact that we were crushed it's still just one game and only counts as one loss and were not even halfway through the season. So let's keep it together. As long as we dont let the Atlantic get away from us we'll be able to retake the lead when all of our guys come back and hopefully secure homecourt advantage. So let's relax. If we get all stressed out over a game in which we werent healthy against a team that's nearly as good as us when were healthy someone's going to have a nervous breakdown.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">
    But please guys, let's put it in perspective. The Cavaliers are a good team. When were healthy we can beat them but were not healthy. We are sorely undermanned and when you're playing a rival team with key players out this will happen especially when that team plays as well as they do at home. Teams go through this sort of funk. Despite the fact that we were crushed it's still just one game and only counts as one loss and were not even halfway through the season. So let's keep it together. As long as we dont let the Atlantic get away from us we'll be able to retake the lead when all of our guys come back and hopefully secure homecourt advantage. So let's relax. If we get all stressed out over a game in which we werent healthy against a team that's nearly as good as us when were healthy someone's going to have a nervous breakdown.</div>



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    * On what planet are the Cavs only "nearly as good as" the Knicks?
    You speak as if its common knowledge

    and i'm not to sure of the logic. blaming a massive blowout loss of 30+ points, which happened because of a lack of defense, on an injury to 1 key player (who plays no defence), a 15 min per game player, and a bench player that didnt get any minutes when healthy and even still, plays no defence.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    more Mrj/Tribute BS. Come on man...blaming a friggin BLOWOUT of massive proportions, which happened because of a lack of defence, on injuries to 1 key player (who plays no defence), another 15min player, and penny (who plays no defence). From this point on a wont argue another thing you say because i'm quite sure you have no brain.



    * On what planet are the Cavs only "nearly as good as" the Knicks? *

    Only on this forum do fans of thier team so openly disrespect and brush off every win by an opposing team of approx. equal abilities. On this forum do i read the most arogant pieces of propoganda. Shameless really.</div>

    Ah 02civic you're late. I thought I'd be hearing from you yesterday what happened? I assume you have a problem with the part I said that's in bold. I do remember beating the Cavaliers without Houston so there is some truth in what I said. How did I disrespect the Cavaliers? Did I say they could never beat us? No. I just said we could beat them when were healthy. I dont think there's anything wrong with that. So really what is your problem? Mad because the Knicks are no longer in the cellar of the Atlantic along with the Raptors?
    If I think that the Cavs are nearly as good as us I'll say it. That's my opinion. If you dont like it then stop reading my posts. It's that simple. The only team that I have ever really disrespected on this forum are the Raptors and truth to be told they deserve it.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post"> From this point on a wont argue another thing you say because i'm quite sure you have no brain.</div>

    [​IMG] That's some real funny stuff there, that whole "you have no brain thing". Although I dont see what that was for since I've never tried to insult you. But hey do whatever makes you happy. I'm glad you wont argue with me anymore I was really getting tired of reading your nonsense as well. Hope you and your Raptors do well in the lottery. Cheers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">* On what planet are the Cavs only "nearly as good as" the Knicks?
    You speak as if its common knowledge

    and i'm not to sure of the logic. blaming a massive blowout loss of 30+ points, which happened because of a lack of defense, on an injury to 1 key player (who plays no defence), a 15 min per game player, and a bench player that didnt get any minutes when healthy and even still, plays no defence.</div>
    I am sorry to bring up this old thread, but I feel led to respond. I am going to have to disagree with you 02civic. The Knicks suffered a horrible blowout but, our injuries are a key part. It should have not been a blowout but, we do have to look at injuries as well. Crawford is a 20ppg kind of guy, Sweetney and Hardaway are solid contributors off the bench as well as decent defenders. All 3 are key players. This is something you will have to witness only by watching more than a couple of Knicks games.

    The Cavs might have a better record but, I still consider them on the same level. You can disagree but, if you choose Cleveland over NYK, you will have to admit not by much at all. Both of them are decent matches for each other and what happened on Starurdy is another thing that we suffer through. Whenever start off badly sometimes they just stop playing basketball. We have seen it a handful of times. Does this mean the Knicks are far less superior? No it does not.
     

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