Can We Truly Move On?

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  1. Mr. J

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    Sorry I was unable to really contribute recently. I was really flooded with school work. Yesterday at, I was at church all day. I caught the game today on MSG at 4-6 though. Great way to bounce back but in as much as we were making good highlight reels, the Blazers shot a more than decent 55% from the field. If the Blazers did not turn the ball over as much, we might have been in a really close wire-to-wire battle. Take a look at the boxscore. The only person who really struggled was Telfair being 1-6. I mean you have Ratliff who was 1-3 but, he is not a part of their offense really. The Knicks need defense. Offense can not hold us for the future. It might temporarily help us in the regular season however, once we get into the playoffs, and our offense is not clicking, what will we do? We saw what happened to the Mavericks and how far they ended up. These Knicks that we currently have, are in no way shape or form even close to the old offensive oriented Dallas Mavericks. We do have similar defenses though.

    We allow our opponents to shoot about 47% from the field. That is an excellet percentage...if you are the other team! The Knicks are capable of being a good defensive team however, I really see lack of effort being key for them. During that Cleveland game, it was as if no one was even trying! No person on the Knicks was trying! I will cut Houston some slack because of his injuries but, everyone else has no excuse. The Cavs had 20 fast break points at only halftime. That is a sign of simply horrendous defense. When the Knicks shots are not falling, they are simply hopeless. Too many times have we seen the Knicks not play with any effort at all. They play nonchalant at times and many times we see them playing stagnant once we have got a lead. There have been too many times when the Knicks have had a very comfortable lead but, then end up losing the game (*cough* Charlotte, *cough* Orlando, *cough* Detroit,) need I continue? On the other side, you have times when they don?t decide to play basketball until they are down by 17 at halftime. They make a very valiant effort to get back in the game, but on several occasions end up short. The Knicks need to play basketball for all 48 minutes! Not 24 or definitely not even show up! This is part of basketball as well. It is the mental part of the game. The Knicks are lacking this and before they can ever say: ?We?re trying to bring a championship back in New York,? or the famous ?Wining a ring is the most important thing,? they need to start acting like it.

    The Knicks need some sort of change. A trade, a coaching change or something needs to be done. The Knicks are roughly a 44-38 team and I don't know about you guys but, I am trying to go far in the playoffs. It's not as if it is not so bad if the Knicks miss the playoffs. We don't have any picks, and we don't have any cap space. This team is mediocre and if something is not done, mediocre it shall remain! Plain and simple. I think we have witnessed enough. 3 blowout losses in this season really says a lot. Those Celtics/Dallas/Cleveland blowouts were by an average of 3 32.6 points. Remember around this Knicks had 3 straight wire to wire blowouts. I think one was against the Magic and two against Miami. Now one can make a fare arguement that those teams were not too good around this time but look at this season. The Knicks have had their fare share of teams that they should have blown out however, they did not. In fact, they lost to the Bobcats, and almost lost to the Hawks. The Knicks did not blow out one team this year.

    Basically what I am trying to say is that based on what I have witnessed, I think Isiah Thomas has poorly constucted this You can never make a correct prediction on the Knicks. The only thing you can do is simply analyze them and make observations. Quite frankly, the only thing consistent about the Knicks, is that they never cease being inconsistent. It is almost like the NBA is full of relationships. The Knicks relationship is not engaged and far from married. Their relationship simply was not built to last, while teams like San Antonio, and Miami are. Sorry for that analogy, it was the only one that I could think of at the moment. [​IMG]
     
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    Just like I was saying:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Isiah Thomas has set the bar low enough that even the Knicks' most vertically challenged players - Kurt Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Bruno Sundov - can clear it with ease.

    On Sunday, the Knicks' president said he was simply being realistic about his club when Thomas called it a 42-, 43-win team. Hey, no one ever said a $103 million payroll can buy you 50 wins.

    Why lower expectations? For one, Thomas is accurate about the Knicks' potential, especially when you factor in the injuries to Allan Houston and now Jamal Crawford. Plus, predicting a record of one or two games over .500 takes some pressure off his coach, Lenny Wilkens, who not surprisingly agrees with his boss' assessment.</div>
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    Well what can I say? We have about a month. What kind of trades/changes can we make?
     
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    We could start by getting rid of Wilkens.
    Its a shame that there are all these great players from New York in the NBA and all we get is Marbury. :shakehead
     
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    Wow, a loss to the Hornets? Something needs to be done.
     
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    That's true but, it is the players fault too. Who can we trade and who can we get? It seems like the Knicks are playing with no effort and are thinking about how much they are getting paid. The defense is rediculous. N.O. was shooting 50%+ and they beat us. We need a new team. Marbury, Houston, were playing no defense, Nazr was picking up silly fouls. JYD was playing like a superstar today. Almost a double double by half time. Remeber all those dunks in the half? If anyone is playing over 40 minutes, it should be him.
     
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    I still think that we need Webber. Either that or a rookie. I'd be happy to see TT, Baker, Penny and Norris leave providing we bring in a combination of youth and experience. I think we need both to be able to compete. Losing to New Orleans is just not on.

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    I really don't think we are going to make any major trades. I feel if Isiah was going to make a move he would have made one already. All we hear are rumors that teams leak out to raise their player value threw the New York media. I think we have to wait until the summer for trade to happen. If we do make a trade I hope Isiah does not make a trade just to make one.
     

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