I was not going to post anything in the Knicks forum for a while (you guys are probably tired of this mrj18 cat) but, I couldn?t help but take notice at two teams in the NBA, known as The Phoenix Suns and The Chicago Bulls. You guys are very familiar with them because we got our starting backcourt from those two teams. Now look at the Suns. The Suns have the best record in the league, and many people think that they will have a 70 win season. I don?t think so, but the fact of the matter is, they are 31-5 and have an amazing wining percentage at 86! After Marbury left, they seemed to be flourishing very well. The only acquisitions they made were acquiring Quentin Richardson, and Steve Nash. Steve Nash was a replacement for Marbury so his acquisition does not really count. Although Q is a great basketball player, his presence alone, would not cause such a change. There has to be more to it than just one good shooting guard. If Q caused that much of a turnaround, than he would be the leagues MVP by a landslide. Now I would like to switch over and talk about Jamal Crawford. Since the Bulls traded Crawford to New York, they started off very slowly at 0-9 but after that, it was no holding them back as they went to 15-9 after. Right now as we speak, they are the 8th seed in the east. They are doing their thing and no Bull hater can even front about it. They are 6-1 in their last 7 games and that defeat came against the world champion Pistons only by 7 points. One can come up with a fair argument Luol Deng and Ben Gordon have been stellar, but again, it seems very bizarre they are doing this well. Chicago is a team that is in the current playoff mix. I bet you not many people (including me) did think Chicago would be this good. I just wanted to point out something I thought was interesting. Perhaps these are just coincidences? Or maybe these players have some flaws that need to be worked on so we will not have a similar fate. Before the season, the Knicks were thought to be the Atlantic division leaders and leave the other teams in the dust. Do you guys think these players presence have an effect on what could have been, or what should have been? Very interesting scenario. As I said earlier, I just couldn't help seeing what you guys thought about it.
No we are not tired of you, speaking for myself you are very informative, and my couz said the same exact thing, that as soon as the teams that traded our so call *Stars* they became Better teams, coicindence or what?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I was not going to post anything in the Knicks forum for a while (you guys are probably tired of this mrj18 cat) but, I couldn?t help but take notice at two teams in the NBA, known as The Phoenix Suns and The Chicago Bulls. You guys are very familiar with them because we got our starting backcourt from those two teams. Now look at the Suns. The Suns have the best record in the league, and many people think that they will have a 70 win season. I don?t think so, but the fact of the matter is, they are 31-5 and have an amazing wining percentage at 86! After Marbury left, they seemed to be flourishing very well. The only acquisitions they made were acquiring Quentin Richardson, and Steve Nash. Steve Nash was a replacement for Marbury so his acquisition does not really count. Although Q is a great basketball player, his presence alone, would not cause such a change. There has to be more to it than just one good shooting guard. If Q caused that much of a turnaround, than he would be the leagues MVP by a landslide. Now I would like to switch over and talk about Jamal Crawford. Since the Bulls traded Crawford to New York, they started off very slowly at 0-9 but after that, it was no holding them back as they went to 15-9 after. Right now as we speak, they are the 8th seed in the east. They are doing their thing and no Bull hater can even front about it. They are 6-1 in their last 7 games and that defeat came against the world champion Pistons only by 7 points. One can come up with a fair argument Luol Deng and Ben Gordon have been stellar, but again, it seems very bizarre they are doing this well. Chicago is a team that is in the current playoff mix. I bet you not many people (including me) did think Chicago would be this good. I just wanted to point out something I thought was interesting. Perhaps these are just coincidences? Or maybe these players have some flaws that need to be worked on so we will not have a similar fate. Before the season, the Knicks were thought to be the Atlantic division leaders and leave the other teams in the dust. Do you guys think these players presence have an effect on what could have been, or what should have been? Very interesting scenario. As I said earlier, I just couldn't help seeing what you guys thought about it.</div> Well the reason why the Suns are doing so well is because they have Steve Nash. Q is not the reason why the Suns are doing well. In fact he was struggling earlier this season and the Suns were still winning. Marbury and Steve Nash dont cancel out like you said. Nash is clearly the superior point guard. He's the best point guard in the league and has been for a couple of years now. He's a point guard's point guard. He definetely makes other people much better. Only reason it didnt show was because he was playing alongside the other two members of "The Big Three". You could take any player besides Nash away, and I mean ANY player, from the Pheonix Suns and they'll still be a very good team. To be honest I'd trade Marbury for Nash in a heartbeat. He thinks pass first but is fully capable of scoring for himself. That's why the Suns are winning and why he is a candidate for MVP. As for the Bulls, the players are buying into the coach and his system. They just have a good coach is it. A good coach can turn any team around. Larry Brown once got the Clippers to the playoffs. Anyway the Bulls coach is getting them to play defense and play like a team. That's the only reason why their doing so well lately. I'd love to have him as our coach but I'd also like to have Steve Nash but neither is happening. It has nothing to do with the players. Actually it has a little to do with the players. Crawford isnt exactly a model team player and would have a hard time(I think) playing under the Bulls coach. But depending on how we use Crawford he can work really well for us. Marbury likes to shoot the ball too much as opposed to Nash who's always looking to pass and get's everyone involved. Marbury doesnt do that. That's the secret behind these teams' successes. Bulls have a great coach and the Suns have Steve Nash. If we had the Bulls coach we would have definetely taken over the Atlantic and left everyone else behind. You want to know something that's even more interesting the Suns couldnt have gotten Steve Nash without us. They basically traded Marbury to get Steve Nash and look how well their doing. That'll teach us to hang on to our expiring contracts. It's not so much that their's something wrong with the players we got from them(except maybe Marbury he's pretty much been a loser his entire career) as much as they dont need them or have gotten better players.
