Warriors Place Biedrins On Injured List And Activate Davis

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  1. .cabangbang

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    Warriors activated Double D and put Biedrins on the IR. Bad move. I have a feeling they are going to play Davis to increase his trade value and then whip him out of here with someone else.
     
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    I don't think his trading value will be changed, unless Davis suddenly starts to put double double. At this point, Davis' trading value is 10 mils caproom fodder, which is actually quite valuable. However, with signing like Foyle or Fisher, we pretty much have to keep Davis and let his contract slot to go, just to maintain our payroll. So, why do we activated Davis? Here are my theories.

    1. We plan to trade Davis. After all, you can't trade a player who's in IL.

    2. Warriors upper management believes that Davis will actually help the team more than Biedrins...
     
  3. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Davis is a good rebounder and he'll challenge someone driving to the hoop with the mix of toughness and the right amount of finnesse on defense. Like I love how when scoring centers try to post him up, he just pulls the seat out of from under them so they travel. That's crafty. Plus he rebounds a lot better than Foyle or Cliffy. Oh my goodness....
     
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    Man Biedrins is sure injury prone.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    He's probably not injured at all, I bet. DD is probably going to someone in a trade, otherwise why make a statement like the one Monty did that he doesn't plan to include him in the rotation when he is probably our best true center on the team (yes, he rebounds, defends the post, plays tough, is smart on defense, gets better position than Foyle). Maybe we'll send him back to Indiana for Scot Pollard or Jeff Foster and somebody who I don't mind. Indiana could do it if they eventually feel Harrison is more ready than anticipated and they've given up on Bender (a player only valuable because of his 7 foot size, shotblocking, athleticism, ballhandling, and shooting ability). But I think Foster is awesome at what he does and he's athletic, but he's no true center, so that trade wouldn't seem likely to happen unless we Mullin gets his favorite ex-teammate, Jonathan Bender and we send them an additional center where we can a.] Be extra thin at the center for a year with Bender and a player like Croshere or something b.] get a 3rd string center that could be a potential starter in our rotation like Pollard plus Bender.

    I didn't bother to check if salaries even match so maybe A.P. can help me with this one. It just feels like Indiana should do something this offseason to drop some dead weight and maybe make a run at Michael Redd to replace Reggie Miller eventually or at least prepare to reload if Artest is becoming that much of a distraction. Mullin used to be a Pacer and he seems like he could get some good talks going with Larry Bird.

    If not the Pacers, who else would be interested in DD maybe? I'm not talking about trades we necessarily might like, but trades that Mullin would probably make happen if he could get his "over sized small forward/power forward" that can dribble and shoot some, but can't really play defense (i.e. Bender, Zarko, and Dunleavy).
     
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    Biedrins isn't injured. They just think he needs more time to develop. The only way he will devolop is if he plays
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">Man Biedrins is sure injury prone.</div>
    He didn't had injury first, when he had to give space to Pietrus. And he doesn't have one now.

    I don't know did you know it too guys but i read that Davis had major conflict with Montgomery. I don't remeber in wich game, but Montgomery in 2nd quarter said to Davis to get ready for substitution, but then changed his mind, and left him on bench, so Davis got realy angry and refused to return on court, and spent 1 quarter in dressing room, when assistant coach came and asked him to return on bench. After that they placed him on INJ list. Something like that.
     
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    Yea, I read that today also in the SF Chron. Says he told Mullin he wants out as soon as possible. I see the reporter in that same newspaper saw the fight with Dun and Cliffy the same way I did also.
     
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    Just get Dun out
     
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    I agree that placing Biedrins on the IR is a bad move, he has a lot of potential and seems to be ready and willing to play at the NBA level. But AP is most likely correct that the Warriors are just buttering up Davis for a trade involving a couple other players from your team. I had predicted Golden State as one of my three comeback teams earlier this season along with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Clippers, but it seems that they just need to make a few more moves to get back up into their championship status back in the day.

    Just to let those that don't know or understand, Biendrins was never actually injured. As I posted in the Bulls forum, when a player is placed on the injured reserve (IR) it means that they are most likely just a reserve for any other player on the 12 man game starting roster. Biendrins just hasn't been given the playing time that he deserves, although he is young and is still a work in progress.

    In another note, while spending time in France I had the chance to check out the Pau-Orthez team shop where there were a few Pietrus jerseys for sale, some of which were signed. They're not that expensive, most of the jerseys running around 25 to 75 euros.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting M Two One:</div><div class="quote_post">In another note, while spending time in France I had the chance to check out the Pau-Orthez team shop where there were a few Pietrus jerseys for sale, some of which were signed. They're not that expensive, most of the jerseys running around 25 to 75 euros.</div>

    Wich of Pietrus jerseys? [​IMG] Pietrus brother Florent was also playing in Pau-Orthez last year, but now moved to Spain and plays in the one team with J.R.Bremer and Sean Rooks.

    Biedrins and Johan Petro (7-0 /260 /C /France /1986) 2 years ago.....
    [​IMG]
     
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    ^Ha, weird pic
     
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    That is form when was 16. [​IMG] Here is one from his last season in Europe, when he was actualy playing!


    [​IMG]


    I just hope that Montgomery will put more efort to get him playing soon, and not spend so much efort by keeping him of the field all the time. Montgomery realy could let him learn the game and let him play for few minutes once in a while.... They would make good dynamic duo in a time with Murphy - one has no outside game and other doesn't have any inside game. [​IMG]
     
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    ^They use cool balls over there. Biedrins looks older than Dunleavy [​IMG] You have a point. A tandem like this as our starting lineup (that is if we give Pietrus the starting spot. pray)

    PG: Speedy
    SG: J-Rich
    SF: Pietrus
    PF: Murph
    C: Biedrins

    Drool...
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I've got a feeling that Biedrens will be more like a power forward since he's so quick and tall, so maybe they can invert the offense so that Murphy is a center playing away from the paint and Biedrens could be the one to draw double teams? Also I heard Biedrens dominated potential future first round pick, Johan Petro, in their last matchup. Anybody know if that's true? Petro sounded pretty cool, but I bet Biedrens is probably better all around and athletic enough for what we need him to do.
     
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    Played sparingly for Pau this year but did get into 7 Euroleague games for a total of 45 minutes. This isn?t much of an issue as Pau has a history of not playing the young players and after losing Mickael Pietrus last year, wanted to protect their investment in this kid. Played Andris Biedrins, in a much publicized international youth game where it was reported that he got killed. Statistically, he did. Having seen this game, what I can say is that Petro guarded Biedrins straight up while Latvia double and triple teamed Petro. Biedrins was on that night and got Petro into foul trouble en-route to 21 pts on 6/18 shooting and 9/19 from the line. Petro had 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 21 minutes, but what was most impressive was the way he found his teammates for 4 assists as they got open. It wasn?t really the disaster the press reported it as such.
     
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    Here's a brief write up on the Biedrins-Petro match-up on Draftcity.com:

    "Played Andris Biedrins, in a much publicized international youth game where it was reported that he got killed. Statistically, he did. Having seen this game, what I can say is that Petro guarded Biedrins straight up while Latvia double and triple teamed Petro. Biedrins was on that night and got Petro into foul trouble en-route to 21 pts on 6/18 shooting and 9/19 from the line. Petro had 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 21 minutes, but what was most impressive was the way he found his teammates for 4 assists as they got open. It wasn?t really the disaster the press reported it as such."
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting goldenstatefan:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's a brief write up on the Biedrins-Petro match-up on Draftcity.com:

    "Played Andris Biedrins, in a much publicized international youth game where it was reported that he got killed. Statistically, he did. Having seen this game, what I can say is that Petro guarded Biedrins straight up while Latvia double and triple teamed Petro. Biedrins was on that night and got Petro into foul trouble en-route to 21 pts on 6/18 shooting and 9/19 from the line. Petro had 8 pts and 5 rebounds in 21 minutes, but what was most impressive was the way he found his teammates for 4 assists as they got open. It wasn?t really the disaster the press reported it as such."</div>
    Wow awesome. I guess the press was too focussed on individual players than to see what the rest of the team was doing together to keep each other alive. Man I'm pumped about Biedrens already. Unleash him now!

    Thanks goldenstatefan.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Unleash him now!</div>

    [​IMG]
    Let's just hope that he can realy play, I don't whan't to see him play for some club in Europe.
     
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    Hipo-- cool pics
     

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